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If you use Signal, Discord, or any other messaging app and you DON'T want Google or Apple monitoring/reading/learning from your messages, follow these steps.

Android:
1. Open Google app
2. Tap your profile photo
3. Settings
4. Google Assistant
5. "Your Apps"
6. Choose the app (e.g., Signal)
7. Toggle "Let your assistant learn from this app" off

iPhone:
1. Settings
2. Apps
3. Choose the app (e.g., Signal)
4. Toggle Apple intelligence or Siri settings to off (โ€œlearn from this appโ€)

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ๆณข้‰„ (Hatetsu)

@GhostOnTheHalfShell On Android, the thing to do is to disable (or uninstall if using a custom ROM or adb) the Google app, if you're unwilling to go that far, you can take away its "Digital assisstant app" status in Settings->Apps->Default Apps (though last time I checked setting this to nothing on phones with Android as shipped by Google changes this to some Google-app-provided screen begging you to re-enable it, so then you have to go around and disable the activation gestures...)
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rsp

Why would anyone want the Google app? I didnt even know I had it. Have no idea what I'm missing by having never using it. But I was able to "disable" the app...no option to uninstall it though.

Did find this describing all the things I'd never use Google app for: online-tech-tips.com/what-is-tโ€ฆ

What Is the Google App & How to Use It

The Google App can be confusing. You see it on your phone screen with just a big G that suggests โ€œGoogleโ€. You may not even end up using it as you already use Chrome for all your web searches and site visits.
Saikat Basu (Online Tech Tips)
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Doktor Lond

@alisynthesis I've been dreaming about a de-googled phone for long - but in denmark it's not so easy because so much authorisation is bound up on ios and android specific apps - all kinds of interaction with authorities and banking and getting messages from your kids school and and and ... I just spoke to a neighbor who had to skip it and buy a standard android because one of these apps we not running - it's really mad - big tech must love the danish goverment!
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decibyte

@doktorlond @alisynthesis I installed LineageOS with microG on my Fairphone 4 the other day and the only problem I haven't solved so far is with in-app purchases. Banking app (Merkur) and MobilePay works just fine. I don't use any of the government apps, so can't say whether they would work. But I'm generally quite impressed with how few problems I have.
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Alison Wilder

@decibyte @doktorlond Nice, lineage looks really cool. I've had a few similar problems on graphene and have pretty much always just hit uninstall when I come up against that stuff. I've always found another way to do whatever I need to do, and if it's that invasive that I literally can't make it work on graphene, fuck em. (This is not to say that's an approach everyone can take. I know that there are requirements in life and sometimes they suck and are not fair!)
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The Great Llama

@decibyte @doktorlond @alisynthesis
I ran Lineage for a few years and it's definitely better than stock android, but I recently switched to Graphene. It's on a whole other level for security.

It was also the easiest install I've ever done... Once you unlock "developer mode" you just load up the Graphene website on another machine, plug in your phone, and the site basically does the install for you.

Seriously, highly recommended.

@Alison Wilder @decibyte @Doktor Lond

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Dobiedobie

I use a completly degoogle phone with e/OS.
e.foundation/e-os/
No Apple, no Google in the phone.
@efoundation

/e/OS - e Foundation - deGoogled unGoogled smartphone operating systems and online services - your data is your data

ECOSYSTEMKEY FEATURESGET /E/OSNEED HELP /e/OS is a complete, fully โ€œdeGoogledโ€, mobile ecosystem /e/OS is an open-source mobile operating system paired with carefully selected applications.
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Zฬˆoรฉ โ›ต

@jesses @aburka @scvalex this option is like half a decade old and has nothing to do with so called machine learning. It just enables apps to expose skills to siri, (so you could idk instruct it by voice command to do something) but if the app doesnโ€™t use it (like signal) then it has no effect, regardless if you turn that option on or off.
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I think if you have a privacy-respecting ROM (if Iโ€™m not mistaken both GrapheneOS and LineageOS both fall into this category) and you donโ€™t have any Google spyware (incl. Google Play Services) you should be fine.
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Rick O

thank you for sharing this. I had no idea it was a thing but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I run grapheneos so I'm good on my end but it is infuriating to me that all of my encrypted messages may be vacuumed up by Google/apple on the other side of the connection with no real warning to any user.

I'm surprised there was not pushback on this like Microsoft got for MS Recall. It has some of the same problems. Maybe because it's not storing a database on device?

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Paul Cantrell

@buherator

Iโ€™m not sure this info is correct.

AIUI, the โ€œlearn from this appโ€ Siri setting doesnโ€™t transmit any information off the device, and is something that the app authors explicitly have to opt into and choose what information they provide.

Iโ€™ll ask around and see if thereโ€™s somebody who knows the technical details and can clarify.

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MostlyTato

@QueenOfTheCroneAge @pianosaurus @only_ohm @MLE_online
I have Google Assistant turned off on Android phone, but these options are still turned on by default. I didn't have to turn Assistant back on to turn off these options.

They do make your options intentionally as opaque and convoluted as possible.

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@MostlyTato That's what I found. I've always had Google Assistant turned off, but I found this turned on, on every single app. I had to go through every app and turn them off. This shit never ends!!! @QueenOfTheCroneAge @pianosaurus @only_ohm @MLE_online @EnfysBook
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Jes Moved to @Jes@labyrinth.zone

disable the google assistant and google apps, and any other preinstalled app that you can disable that you won't use.
any apps that you can't disable but have a battery option in the app info, you'll wanna set them to "restricted" power settings if possible, which will functionally disable them until they're manually opened.
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