I didn't imply that. Stating that there is too much hatred of minorities doesn't mean that America fails at everything. That is a stretch. Me pointing out that America has a lot of hatred towards minorities isn't a reflection of everything America does as a whole is inherently bad.

I didn't say that America can't have a good influence on another country. America isn't one to look to especially now for how minorities are treated.

When I say America I mean the people of America. There are large numbers of folks, regardless of why they do, hate minorities.

I didn't say the wealthy "elite" weren't the cause of a lot of the divide. They absolutely are. No such thing as an ethical billionaire.

I'm not disagreeing with you on the fact that your financial status isn't what really separates us. What I am saying is there is still too much hate towards minorities. That doesn't change that the wealthy are a problem.

You're taking two separate ideas and merging them into one "truth."

They ate two separate topics. Just because the wealthy are guilty of the bad they are doing doesn't take away the fact that there is too much hate towards minorities in America from the people that live here.

I don't think that's entirely true and Thiel will learn that lesson sooner or later. Arguably already has as he was rumored to have been pissed about all the anti-trans rhetoric and throttled spending, which is why Elon had to step up and shell out.

Now Musk is in the driver seat with a grudge he hasn't paid back from PayPal and Thiel's in danger of finding out after fucking around.

The United States was founded as a white supremacist settler-colony. This shit is the same as calling Israel a democracy.

How come the US can be "flawed" but China is "red fascist"? The US is white fascist. You want to talk about fascism? The US's prison population is higher than either the USSR was or China is, and under Trump it's going to get worse! Where's the democracy for the millions of undocumented workers that the US relies on to run its economy, that the US is gearing up to round up by the millions into prison camps? Where's their democracy? Where's the democracy for the hundreds of thousands of child brides and child laborers all across the US? Half a million children pick almost a quarter of the food currently produced in the United States. They pay taxes, are forced to give birth, but they can't vote.

Trump didn't even get 50% of the vote, and now he's in charge of everything. "Democracy"

We have to accept that the US is not democratic; it's reformed fascism, and those reforms are in danger right now. If you ever want the US to be a democracy you need to recognize this and protect the democratic reforms we have.

As a Brit, this all seems unhelpful. The only reason anyone cares how the US was “founded” hundreds of years ago is that they were a bit closer to having the right idea at the start than most countries. Doesn’t mean they did of course, but compare to how the UK was “founded”, or Greece, “the birthplace of democracy”, and suddenly it really doesn’t matter.

As for whether it is currently a democracy, a flawed democracy is still a democracy. Trumps a terrible choice but he did get a lot of votes by ordinary people, and whilst their system is skewed by being a shitty fptp setup (just like the UK sadly) and their crazy elector system, it is nonetheless fairly democratic, in the sense that most people can vote, they didn’t pressure or threaten voters much, they didn’t fake lots of votes, and the flaws can only influence and skew the result to some extent, rather than being the deciding factor.
But it isn’t the best democracy in the world, we can all agree on that. I hope they manage to replace it in our lifetimes with something that would allow for more than 2 parties (UK too).