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GIMP 3.0 is released, check it out!

gimp.org/news/2025/03/16/gimp-…

A huge THANK YOU to everyone who contributed in any way - from testing and submitting bug reports through to designing, coding, fixing, packaging, testing some more, translating, documenting, hosting, administration, so many people, so much work, so much to be thankful for!

Welcome to GIMP 3.0!

GIMP - GIMP 3.0 Released

Release notes for GIMP 3.0
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@miniBill
FYI: “Fuck you” uses less chars, and means the same thing. HTH!
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@Scott_Trakker@mastodon.world @GIMP@floss.social Go way dude. You're the one that showed up in my mentions to complain that someone doesn't appreciate trash. You're not king of the internet, bro. Go away.
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@jonathankoren Please keep it civil - thank you.

GIMP is produced by volunteers. If you want specific features, yes, please file issues. If you want to be on the design team join the design team. But without code being written by volunteers, there won’t be changes. Vague suggestions like “modern editing tools” are hard to implement.

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@fallbackerik @Toastface @supertobi @giggls @scy and also change the plug-in API, rewrite 10,000+ plug-ins and scripts, courses, documentation, 70+ language translations, find hosting for > 100K downloads/day...

Changing the name is a possibility for the future; for now we have what we have. A hostile fork is always possible, but you do need a team of developers.

@scy @Sven Geggus @supertobi @Erik Play2Learn @Toastface
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FediThing

@fallbackerik @Toastface @supertobi @giggls @scy

You could just drop the G from the abbreviation, the word "IMP" would work fine as it's a mischievous fairy.

I mean this in a really positive way: you have an army of people waiting to promote you and support you, but they're being held back because of the letter G. It would be a tiny change and massive reward for you 🙂

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@FeralRobots @fallbackerik @Toastface @supertobi @giggls @scy Personally i do want to see change. We don’t today have consensus in the team to make that change, so posting as GIMP_Official i can’t say what will happen yet, but we’ve agreed last yearto discuss it further. It’s more work than it might at first appear. I should have said, some things that would be affected include... rather than change... we wouldn't be rewriting all the scripts you're right, sorry.
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Duco

@tankgrrl @kkavee @crowbriarhexe @mjibrower @petrillic so because by accident in one of hundreds of languages the same combination of letters has multiple meanings of which one is offensive, this project has to change it's name? 🤔

I recently learned that Queer is a swear word for some as well. I always thought it's just synonym to LGBTQ+. Why is everything a swear word now? Can we stop using random words for swearing, please? The GIMP software obviously has nothing to do with swearing.

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supertobi

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The discussion about the name is very old. It is even in the FAQ:

gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#i-d…

And there was a fork, Glimpse, but they could not find enough contributors:

news.itsfoss.com/glimpse-gimp-…

And that's how open source works. If no one cares, nothing will change.

GIMP's 'Woke' Fork Glimpse is Getting Discontinued

A few years back, someone forked GIMP into Glimpse because the term “GIMP” was offensive in a way. Not just limited to the name, but the fork also aimed to do better than what GIMP offered, with a potential to introduce an easier user interface and …
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Benjamin

@supertobi @mxjaygrant yeah I know all that. But the thing is, the more I grow away from my nerdy teenage self, I understand it less and less. The "coincidence" while finding an acronym is just incomprehensible. It might have been "funny" back then, but now it isn't any more. The FAQ reads like the project didn't grow up which is sad because the program is great and the new people involved are as well. So I wonder why keep that cruft.
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CmykStudent

@rawrmonstar @supertobi @piratenpanda @mxjaygrant For what it's worth, this issue was discussed during a team meet-up in the last few years: developer.gimp.org/conferences…

It's one of the many things that developers want to come back to, after we recover from the 3.0 release.

GIMP Developer - Wilber Week 2023: Amsterdam, Netherland

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Tegan

@CmykStudent @supertobi @piratenpanda @mxjaygrant y’all might want to update the FAQ if it’s an actual possibility! Based off of that it sounds less like “its difficult to change such an old name” to “we won’t change it and in fact it’s for some principled reason”
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@rawrmonstar @CmykStudent @supertobi @piratenpanda @mxjaygrant@triangletoot. Thanks.. It’s on the agenda to discuss, which would include the practicalities. As the individual (@barefootliam) responding in this message, i’ll say ii hadn’t noticed that FAQ comment before today and will suggest changing it, if whoever wrote it isn’t too wedded to it. We have parts of the Web site going back almost 30 years!
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@fabio there are still some issues with Wayland, including a lack of colour management, and an inability to remember window positions between sessions, and probably more. You could try it, though, making sure you have GIMP::Windows::SIngle Window Mode enabled. May need to experiment with preferences/window managememt. At least one gimp dev usees niri with waybar on wayland.
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@glyph


[1]I respect your opinion, and it is valid,

But I think this is one of the biggest problems of the FOSS world:
The users are more knowledgeable and woke, also they are more sensitive. This causes FOSS to be constantly stuck in politics and cultural shifts "gimp is a slur so rename it, the creator of brave donated to X charity and I'm opposed to that(I know its not foss but still and important actor in the browser game), the maintainer of X said Y and he is a bigot so lets boycott it"

This causes FOSS to really be held back. When was the last time you investigated to ethics and morals of the owner of Toyota or any car you drive? When was the last time you morally evaluated the contractor that built your home?
Hell, we even vote and support for horrible politicians which are proven to be pedophiles, murderers, etc. Just because there is another guy who is worse. Why? Because "bad is better than worse" and I agree to some extent.

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[2]GIMP already has miniscule market share compared to photoshop and other proprietary solutions. But is has taken years for this miniscule market share and others to hear the name "GIMP". I think most graphic designers and PS users have at least heard the name GIMP. This is marketing.

Now to rename GIMP after all these years, means losing even more market.

Which one is more important to us? For FOSS to be more common and compete with proprietary software, or the political correctness of it's name?

This is were we choose bad over worse.

@Glyph
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@alavi not sure why you are setting up all these wild false dichotomies. companies and software rebrand all the time and often use name and logo changes as a way to do promotions, rather than see them as some destruction of their IP. I don't have control over any graphic design shops and I will not be making any decisions about the use of an app named after a slur, I can just very obviously see it's hurting their brand and they should stop choosing to hurt themselves that way.
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Glyph

@alavi like I am not campaigning for us to pillory the maintainers of this software and drive them out of society, but look at their replies, you can see hundreds of people reacting to their terrible decision making on branding rather than celebrating their major technical achievements. and if you look at their FAQ you can see this is a self-inflicted wound, they *know* the name is terrible and they've known it's terrible for a long time. it's an anti-social flex to continue doing this.
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Glyph

@alavi you are correct that they have miniscule marketshare. perhaps if they were the sort of team that could take *very* basic feedback about their use of a name that angers many users, they would have *less* miniscule marketshare. but instead they insist on holding on to a juvenile, stale joke name rather than being welcoming to more users. I wish them luck but this strategy is not going to work (my evidence: it has not yet worked for 20 years, and it seem to be working less each day).
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@glyph
Rebrands hurt companies most of the time, it has a time and place, for example when facebook rebranded to meta, it initially hurt them but after a while, because of how widely known facebook is, it caught on. The same goes with twitter to X which really hurt them. And these are largely known names, everybody heard that twitter got renamed to X but nobody will hear that GIMP got renamed to XYZ.

Gimp doesn't have small market share because of the name, or the behaviors of it's maintainers. that is childish to think. It's like saying linux has small market share because Linus is harsh and people are offended by penguins.
The market doesn't know slurs or political correctness. People use what they hear more and works good enough.
Windows is objectively worse than linux but it dominates the market because it has a monopoly and everyone heard the name, and everyone used windows when they were kids.
PS also has a monopoly and it's NAME is synonymous with photo editing.

We should stop being so sensitive.

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Glyph

@alavi it sounds like you just don't have much of a background in marketing or customer relationship management. lesson 1 is, when customers start complaining about an issue, yelling "don't be so sensitive!" at them doesn't typically increase customer satisfaction.

demonstrably, the market does "know slurs" which is why they're complaining.

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@alavi also, if you earnestly believe that Windows is "objectively worse", you may want to familiarize yourself with more of Windows's details to understand some of the technical reasons why it is more successful. there are certainly technical benefits to Linux and big problems with Windows but it is *definitely* not an unqualified win over Windows; just the first recent example I could find, jangafx.com/insights/linux-bin…

JangaFX - Insight: Linux Binary Compatibility

The atrocious state of binary compatability on Linux and how to address it
jangafx.com
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Donnie Darko

I never knew you cared. This is not a joke? Better get the gimp.

I use Linux because it generally does what I do every day. There are a few ok programs out there like gimp, blender, and kdenlive. I mean they get the job done mostly without me having to reboot. Really I had a lot of pirate software and I could not open the gateway for them to report home in Windows is what brought me to Linux. (sorry I thought I was responding to Tom Ellard aka Lard Motel)

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@fallbackerik @FeralRobots @Toastface @supertobi @giggls @scy not right now, sorry. It would likely be considerably more than a single pull request, involving legal contracts, moving the Web site and all the bugs, and a lot more. This is not to say it should not be done, but if you heard about the GIMP 3 release you'd presumably also hear about a name change. Thanks for asking!
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leeuw

awesome. thank you for the new version. great job with it. i will need a computer with a bigger screen to run it like i would like. because the side toolbars are getting too fat and cannot be reduced further. now i'm working with one toolbar which has tool options, layers, brushes, paths etc. also have to modify a few of my "scm" scripts. but don't mind my griping. again great job!
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#foss #linux #graphics #gmic @G'MIC 🎩🐯 @GIMP
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OldCoder

#gmic 3.6.0 is out. I thought I'd mention that the G'MIC speech bubble feature, which is new in 3.6.0, is confirmed to work in both #GIMP 2.10 and 3.0. This opens up new options for #webcomics creators.

Illustration: Use of G'MIC 3.6.0 speech bubble in GIMP 2.10.

#gimp #webcomics #gmic

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