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in reply to Aral Balkan

All the main parties are funded by big corporations. It's they who the parties work for. The differences in the parties are just like different brands of the same product in my opinion, promising different things but basically doing the same thing.

Foreign policy does not change regardless of which party is in power.

We need to get corporate influence out of politics.

in reply to Aral Balkan

in France, the historian Johann Chapoutot released "Les irresponsables" (The irresponsible ones. Who brought Hitler to power?
There is a very relevant interview about Chapoutot on the French media Blast on YouTube. The CC option might help.
gallimard.fr/catalogue/les-irr…
in reply to Aral Balkan

I would agree that Corbyn was 'sabotaged' by all sort of people, but not least by himself.

He was his own worst enemy electeroly. The main thing he achieved was a prolonged period of Tory rule effectively unopposed.

in reply to freediverx

@freediverx
I don't even know what that means.

FYI, I have never voted Tory in life. Labour, Lib Dem, Green in the past, whoever has the best chance of keeping the Tory candidate out.

The reason the left keeps falling apart is there is often a complete lack of any pragmatic ruthlessness to get it over the line and get into power. If you lose the election you have nothing.

in reply to Aral Balkan

And why they arent breaking from the DNC and forming a new party just mystifies me at this point.

They would gut half the dems by the midterms..

in reply to Blurry Bits Photography

@BlurryBits Likely because they know the moment they do the media would cast them as unelectable and the Democrats would start on their “splitting the vote” rhetoric.
in reply to Aral Balkan

The media was very much complicit in killing Bernie’s campaign, particularly what passes as the liberal media (NYT, CNN, MSNBC). Chris Matthews famously attacked him as a dangerous communist, warning that his administration would have firing squads in Central Park for people like himself. And this was before all of them caved to Trump.

There is no left mainstream media. The leftist (moderate, in my view) positions are only covered by independent journalism.

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in reply to freediverx

@freediverx But that's my point. "They'll be attacked by the media" is so much a non-answer when it comes to these two.

Ralph Nader, Ross Perot, Ron Paul, Jill Stein.
All disruptors. None of them filled arenas in hostile territory. Not like these two.

We've never seen a legitimate off-party candidate in my lifetime. And I just don't buy it's impossible.
But, it needs to be populist.

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@BlurryBits
Also interesting to remember that Obama rose as an underdog candidate propelled by grass roots organizing campaign. But then he betrayed those people by dismantling the apparatus as soon as he was elected. Literally pulled up the ladder that empowered the people.
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@BlurryBits
First-past-the-post electoral rules make it impossible for a third party candidate to win. So the best a third party candidate can achieve is to influence policy positions.
in reply to Aral Balkan

They sabotaged Bernie twice. Are you thinking of when he was clearly much popular than Biden? California also accidentally lost ballot boxes when he was running against Hillary Clinton.
in reply to Aral Balkan

Definitely. Anything to protect the overclass. They aren't giving up that wealth no matter what.
in reply to Aral Balkan

Hmm, I don’t think you understand what a “fact” is. That is clearly just an opinion.