When we released post editing for #Mastodon, we first released a version that supported processing and displaying edits incoming from other servers, before releasing a version that flipped a switch allowing anyone to make edits. We're taking an identical approach with quote posts, as the upcoming 4.4 version of Mastodon will begin displaying quote posts from other servers and software. Once this is widely deployed on the network, 4.5 will bring the long awaited ability to quote posts.
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in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •TBH, as a person that was against quote toots from the beginning I'm not happy about the way it was implemented (if that's the final approach ofc)
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in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Finally! --The long overdue #QuotePosts will be phased in on #Mastodon:
mastodon.social/@Gargron/11462โฆ
Eugen Rochko
2025-06-04 15:51:34
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in reply to HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด • • •HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด
in reply to Paul Chambers๐ง • • •@paul
Hi Paul,thanks.
I have not noticed any relevant "layout change" regarding quotes, neither in my app, nor in the browser version.
Apart from that, why does @Gargron write, "...as the upcoming 4.4 version of Mastodon will begin displaying..." Its tempus clearly relates to the future, not the present...๐ค
Paul Chambers๐ง
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด • • •@HistoPol 4.4 has been out for a while in nightly and now beta. You are on it now and have been for several months as test subjects on Mastodon.Social. Other instances installed it, also. I've been meaning to install it for a couple months. I'm going to install it a little later today since it was released today in beta and not nightly.
I was just curious if their was a noticeable change.
@Gargron
I think the tempus is actually referring to the actual official version release for all instances and is simply software dev speak.
ikuturso
in reply to Paul Chambers๐ง • • •ikuturso
in reply to ikuturso • • •HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด
in reply to ikuturso • • •@ikuturso @paul
OK, I've verified the settings.
They already were as Paul posted them. I must've done this weeks ago.
Notwithstanding, I am not aware of any quote posts.
Could either of you pls. post 2-3 screenshots of examples?
ikuturso
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด • • •still a little short on examples but here is one of someone quote posting their own older post and another where the quoted person has probably not enabled the BlueSky bridge.
It might also be that only these self-quotes work for now because I've not really been able to find different examples and some #quoteposts that show up fine from Threads on Sharkey only show the "pending approval" on mastodon.social.
edit: it's the latter see mastodon.social/@renchap@oisauโฆ from @renchap
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mastodon.socialHistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด
in reply to ikuturso • • •@ikuturso
Thank you.
No, this is quite obvious.
No, I have not seen this layout.
@renchap @paul
HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด • • •@ikuturso @renchap @paul
Maybe a stupid question but how do you usw the Quote Funktion actively?
a) Go to the target text's post, highlight the text, then somehow activate the quote function, or,
b) Create a new post, somehow circle back to the text that you want to quote, initiate the quote function?
I couldn't find either alternative...?
Renaud Chaput
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด • • •@HistoPol Mastodon 4.4 only support creating quote posts that are created by other software.
You can not yet quote other posts from Mastodon, this will come later in the summer.
@ikuturso @paul
HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด
in reply to Renaud Chaput • • •@renchap
Ah, again? ๐
Dรฉjร -vu.
Thanks, though. Now, I know.
oisaur.com/@renchap/1146358437โฆ
@ikuturso @paul
Renaud Chaput
2025-06-06 10:02:38
Renaud Chaput
in reply to Paul Chambers๐ง • • •@paul We bump the version as soon as the previous version gets a Release Candidate, so mastodon.social displayed a 4.4 version since last October.
Ingesting remote quote posts is behind an experimental flag that has not yet been enabled on mastodon.social, but it should be very soon.
@HistoPol @Gargron
Paul Chambers๐ง
in reply to Renaud Chaput • • •@renchap That's why I was curious if anyone had seen it yet. I hadn't seen any posts about it in the past but have heard about other changes here and there that came along. Thanks.
@HistoPol @Gargron
Mastodon Migration
in reply to Paul Chambers๐ง • • •@paul @HistoPol
Have not seen anything on mastodon.online yet.
Currently v4.4.0-nightly.2025-06-04
Paul Chambers๐ง
in reply to Mastodon Migration • • •@mastodonmigration that's why I was curious.
As one poster pointed out, dev branches change often. Today was truly the first beta pre-release and i with a second beta planned next week then I think an alpha version coming out and eventually the stable version.
github.com/mastodon/mastodon/rโฆ
@HistoPol
Release v4.4.0-beta.1 ยท mastodon/mastodon
GitHubPaul Chambers๐ง
in reply to Mastodon Migration • • •Can you go to your profile settings and see if the option to turn off quote posts is there? Curious if it is, esp if you aren't seeing any
@mastodonmigration @HistoPol
Mastodon Migration
in reply to Paul Chambers๐ง • • •@paul @HistoPol
Don't see anything
Paul Chambers๐ง
in reply to Mastodon Migration • • •@mastodonmigration One of the developers posted in another reply with us that they haven't activated it yet but plan to shortly for Mastodon.Social. @HistoPol
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Renaud Chaput
2025-06-04 20:53:00
Mastodon Migration
in reply to Paul Chambers๐ง • • •@paul @HistoPol
Saw that. Thanks for thr heads up.
HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด
in reply to Paul Chambers๐ง • • •@paul
Where exactly should this be?
@mastodonmigration
Paul Chambers๐ง
in reply to HistoPol (#HP) ๐ด ๐บ๐ธ ๐ด • • •@HistoPol I installed v 4.4 and activated the flag for my instance and the setting for users is under Profile preferences>Other
@mastodonmigration
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in reply to Paul Chambers๐ง • • •@paul @HistoPol
Very cool. See it now. Thanks.
Jared Stevens
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Fabianใใใกใใขใณใ๐ณ๏ธโ๐
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •does other servers/software have this feature actually? I'm only aware of a client side implementation that resolves "RE: %URL%"
Or is it that, what mastodon will also do?
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@waystation @Gargron
fix: Allow quotes to be filtered by diondiondion ยท Pull Request #34786 ยท mastodon/mastodon
GitHubPepijn
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Many years ago on Twitter I was quote posted and then blocked by the current US president. It was not a fun experience.
Is the Mastodon implementation better? For example by always allowing a top level comment from the quoted account? And by the quote-post disappearing when the quote poster blocks the quoted account?
@waystation
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in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Renaud Chaput
in reply to joene extra • • •@joeneXtra No, the trigger for the 4.5 release is us finishing all the remaining implementation for quote post authoring
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Heretical_i
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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen • • •@rolle yes, the post suggested, that the DeepL feature disappeared. Maybe it was just locally misconfigured after upgrade?
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contranym
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in reply to Alex, the Hearth Fire • • •@WizardOfDocs @waystation Yes! YES!!โ๏ธ
@Gargron Quote boosts CAN๐ BE๐ GOOD๐, but we *need* to care about & ADDRESS their critical "triple-A" potential:
Abuse
Accessibility
Annoyance
(Failure to address each of the above in THAT order of priority is a slow & painful way to learn lessons that've already been taught)
MOVED TO @halva@mk.absturztau.be
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in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Totts
in reply to Pepijn • • •@Pepijn @waystation quote posting is an act of egotistism.
As in...
OK, you've read what the original poster has written has said. Now, let me put MY spin on it
Or, and worse, they shame or mock the original poster
I seriously hope this feature is not brought in.
Fell
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Maj - ๐จ๐ฆ
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in reply to Pepijn • • •JoshMayBalloon
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •sometimes I wonder what can we learn from #Twitter or even #Bluesky in terms of social medias like it.. quote posting, I think I'm fine with it, I just saw that it *could* be worse if implemented like in Twitter, I do hope that at least, since switching microblogging IS easier than like #Youtube or #Twitch it can finally build a sizable space in the internet.
Is Quoting Posts a way? Yeah, I think so, but also like.. a bunch, I can't remember it on the top of my head.. Welp, that's life
keen456 keen456
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Pepijn
in reply to Panicky_Patzer • • •I don't know. For me personally that's unnecessary.
I just don't want to be shut out of a conversation that involves my post: thus the option of a "right of top reply" would work for me. Especially so if combined with an automatic deletion of the quote post when I'm blocked.
@Gargron @waystation
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in reply to Alfonso Martรญnez de Lizarrondo • • •Pepijn
in reply to Alfonso Martรญnez de Lizarrondo • • •@alfonsoml Sure. And they can also physically come to my house. The reality on social media is that the screenshot route is way less common and way less damaging.
The quote + block route, or simply quote + not give the original account a visible place to reply, is the common one and Mastodon is now in a position to fix that in a very elegant manner.
@Geri @Gargron @waystation
Totts
in reply to Pepijn • • •Sarah Perez ๐
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Renaud Chaput
in reply to Sarah Perez ๐ • • •Target for 4.4.0 is end of month (or first week of July).
4.5 is "when we finished fully implementing quote posts", which I hope will be September or October at the latest.
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in reply to Renaud Chaput • • •Mina
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •I know, it was a tough choice to change something that was kind of part of Mastodon's original concept and even tougher, to implement it in a responsible and fair way, but yes:
I am very sure, it will improve the platform a lot.
Thanks for all the work and especially for changing your mind (I know, how hard that can be)!
๐
Scott
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in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Paul Chambers๐ง
Unknown parent • • •@tokyo_0 it's not in that link. That part is in this thread. Start it over from the top post to see it. Or,
The setting in my v4.4.0 instance is under Profile preferences>Other
Here is an actual screengrab of it.
@WizardOfDocs @waystation @shlee
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Unknown parent • • •Totts
Unknown parent • • •@azalea @Pepijn @waystation
Why is an honest reply and then boosting the OP worse than quote posting?
To my way of thinking, you are empowering the OP with the latter more than egotistical basking in the OP's content.
That is to say, a quote post comes from you, not from the OP. Hence, my initial concerns about egotism.
Pepijn
Unknown parent • • •@azalea It takes the conversation away from the original place.
It brings it to a place where other accounts don't / can't see the context.
That includes the original account who might not even know a discussion goes on.
I'm fine with quote posting if these two items are addressed (which they can but don't appear to be with this version of the new functionality).
Without addressing this it will increase the divide between large "broadcasters" and everyone else.
@Geri @Gargron @waystation
Totts
Unknown parent • • •@azalea @Pepijn @waystation Because ultimately, I write things on Mastodon without much consideration as to whether they are read or not.
I just try to write about matters which I think have some utility.
(I am actually flabbergasted when some of my posts get boosted 100s of times as I am nobody of importance, more so to be followed by people who are plainly sharper than me)
Xx
Totts
in reply to Pepijn • • •yes, this is a very real concern too
The democracy of Mastodon is really rather wonderful.
No one has a 'big mouth'
Ironically, this means Azalea that your viewpoint is equally valid as mine.
Xx
Totts
Unknown parent • • •Ben Royce ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฉ
Unknown parent • • •@bauhinia
what we need is a downvote button
for posts like yours
Ben Royce ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฉ
Unknown parent • • •@bauhinia
hold off now please
you're crushing me with your edgelord stench
you're too powerful for me
Katzentratschen
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •Today, I've noticed a quote post* in my TL for the first time. It looks awesome and works exactly as I've hoped for. ๐คฉ
* Bonus awesomeness for being bridged via #BridgyFed from Bluesky.
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