Groups?
I am new to Friendica and want to learn to create groups. The Friendica wiki tells me:
To create a group, visit your Friendica “Contacts” page and select “Create a new group”.
But there is no such button. I just don't see it. There is only one YouTuber showing how to do it, but his cursor-clicks are off-screen, and the audio is terrible, so it's impossible to make sense of.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems? How can we improve our Friendica skills?
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Jupiter Rowland
in reply to Erik van Schaaik • • •@Erik van Schaaik Not only a new profile. An entire new account.
On Friendica, creating a new group as in a Facebook group means registering a whole new login.
If you want to create such a group, I'd recommend you to do that on another Friendica node than the one you're on right now. For if you had a group on the node that you're on right now, and you wanted to moderate the group, you'd have to
But if your group is on another node, you can stay logged into both at the same time.
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Thanks for your much-needed clear explanation of how Friendica groups work.
At the moment, it still seems a bit too cumbersome to me. But I might give it a try when I have more time.
In the meantime, I’m also looking into alternatives like Revolt, where you can create dedicated chat groups: rvlt.gg/qndZXnGD
Other ideas and alternatives on 'groups' are always very welcome. 😀
Jupiter Rowland
in reply to Erik van Schaaik • • •@Erik van Schaaik Two alternatives from Friendica's own creator would be Hubzilla and (streams). The latter is from 2021, it's still kind of maintained by its creator, it has a lot of features that Friendica doesn't have and a few that Hubzilla doesn't have. But it has a steeper learning curve than Friendica.
Hubzilla from 2015 is the most powerful of the bunch with lots of features that you won't find anywhere else, but also the one with the steepest learning curve.
Both have one big advantage over Friendica and almost the whole rest of the Fediverse: Login/account and identity are not firmly bound to one another. Imagine you can have multiple, fully independent accounts with their own identities on one and the same Friendica login. Not profiles for the same identity (Hubzilla
... show more@Erik van Schaaik Two alternatives from Friendica's own creator would be Hubzilla and (streams). The latter is from 2021, it's still kind of maintained by its creator, it has a lot of features that Friendica doesn't have and a few that Hubzilla doesn't have. But it has a steeper learning curve than Friendica.
Hubzilla from 2015 is the most powerful of the bunch with lots of features that you won't find anywhere else, but also the one with the steepest learning curve.
Both have one big advantage over Friendica and almost the whole rest of the Fediverse: Login/account and identity are not firmly bound to one another. Imagine you can have multiple, fully independent accounts with their own identities on one and the same Friendica login. Not profiles for the same identity (Hubzilla has these in addition), but fully separate identities, like fully separate Friendica accounts. This is possible on Hubzilla and (streams), and they call it "channels". They're kind of a byproduct of nomadic identity.
In practice, this means:
Extra downside: Friendica has at least got dedicated Android apps and support for Mastodon apps. Hubzilla and (streams) don't have either, and they will never support Mastodon apps because a Mastodon app wouldn't cover over 90% of their features, including critical everyday features, simply because Mastodon doesn't have these features.
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in reply to Jupiter Rowland • •I'll have a look at Hubzilla and Streams and see where it gets me.
Thanks again @Jupiter Rowland
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in reply to Christo • •I'm not good with terminology, so I assume node is the same as server in this case.
You and I are on Friendica, which is part of the Fediverse, and we're both using the server friendica.world.
Wikipedia has an image illustrating how the Fediverse is connected:
Here's the list of public Friendica servers: dir.friendica.social/servers
If you were to look for another server for e.g. a
groupcircle account, you'd choose one of the not-friendica.world ones. 😅Jupiter Rowland
in reply to Christo • • •@Christo You're on friendica.world.
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Daniel de Kay
in reply to Jupiter Rowland • • •As far as u u can see you don’t need a new login, but a sub account to which you can switch anytime. You can have as many as you like, and they can be anything.
I would even say that Hubzilla’s channels are the same as these sub accounts.
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in reply to Daniel de Kay • •Daniel de Kay
in reply to Erik van Schaaik • • •1. Go to “Accounts” in the menu that pops up when you click on your profile picture.
2. Then click on “Manage accounts”. You should end up on youserver.url/settings/delegat…
3. Click “Register an additional account”
4. Fill in the name, nickname, and confirm with your main account password.
Voilà – you have a new account as a sub.account to which you can switch to at any time using the accounts menu.
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in reply to Daniel de Kay • •I'm sorry, @Daniel de Kay , but I don't see an "Accounts" option in the menu that appears when I click my profile picture. Additionally, the URL that's supposed to show where I would end up isn't working.
I must go do some urban painting now (lovely analogue paper and paints!) but I will not give up, and I'll be looking back into this soon.
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in reply to Erik van Schaaik • •AFAIK, it only works in a browser, not in a mobile app.
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Erik van Schaaik
in reply to Daniel de Kay • •I have managed to create a sub account. I believe this account is the equivalent of a group, am I right? Or should I proceed to create a group inside this sub account?
phle
in reply to Erik van Schaaik • •So, if I've understood it correctly,
a circle-group is basically one "person" that acts as a hub that everyone "in" the "group" shares messages with
so when one tags this "person" (by adding an exclamation mark —
!— in front of the "person"'s name), the "person" then forwards that message to everyone else that it has in "its contacts".Erik van Schaaik
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It’s exactly the analogy used to explain federation. ActivityPub an actor sends notifications to all the inboxes of their followers. Just like email.
And the group is then a mailing list, makes sense.
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