I should state for the record that I think LLMs and other forms of AI have some valid and worthwhile uses, and that *none* of them should be tied to big tech or capitalism.
See things like: - accessibility - some types of research - spell-check and predictive keyboards - spam/scam filtering
I agree, my nephew is using his own models ( as part of a serious research project ) to predict avian flu spread ( amongst many other pandemics ). They should absolutely be kept out of all creative activities ( other than as assistants ) and most definitely should not be centrally controlled or owned.
@KayT A language model can't do that. LLMs have *no* legitimate uses. Some other things wrongly lumped under "AI" by AI stans do, but we should be rejecting that categorization as part of an agenda, not accepting it noncritically.
I think the relevant culprit is not AI, not even LLMs, it's the "Generative" part, so when the crap starts to output CONTENT, not just analysis results. Generating something from nothing is, in essence, alchemy, and from what I can say, generative ai is just about as much sharlatanery as alchemy's always been.
I agree 100% AI, ML and LLMs (I have a local model) are my hobby. I believe that as long as hallucinations remain an unresolved problem, LLMs shouldn't be on search engines, news sources or anything where accuracy and facts are paramount. I love the tech, hate what tech bros have done with it.
I moved to linux a little while ago just because I liked tinkering and because my laptop kept having issues with Windows updates. But the more Microsoft does, the better I feel about it
Please tell me this is made up. I'm starting to read posts on Microslop, so I'm guessing it is real, but I do have a tiny bit of hope that MICROS~1 didn't do something this stupid...
Ah, who am I kidding, this is Microsoft. In fact the same Microsoft of the free webmail service "Outlook", of the mail client "Outlook" and of the webmail for Exchange "Outlook", and I'm probably forgetting something else they've named "Outlook" too. So naming choices certainly aren't their strong suit.
... also, dark blue on a dark background? (especially the image/icon on the second screenshot, but the heading on the first is also not really standing out much from the background)
Or is my display or GPU somehow mangling these colors?
office was their biggest brand besides windows. Killing that brand for a AI app that not many people are interested in probably won't work out so well.
My company had to disable Teams video recording and transcription services bc of the copilot stuff, due to security concerns. It's been more than a year and we haven't gotten it back.
This stuff is being shoved down our throats and major organizations are unable to use it bc it's so unsafe. It's making these applications pure bloatware/malware.
Honestly, it's a good time for new developers to enter the space with non-enshittified products.
@rotsaruckz63 @sylvie I am so happy to have escaped that crap 10 years ago. but sometimes you cant avoid it or you will loose your job, sadly.
for example libre office still messes complex word documents with mixed tables, change tracking marks, and lots of styles and hierarchical chapters; for these I have word 2010 in a win10 vm, I rarely use it except for customer specs, most docs can be directly edited in libre office without messing them up.
Also LibreOffice Dark mode is unusable in my opinion, and LibreOffice Help is only 47% translated into Swedish, and 49% into Japanese. It's great that free, open source options exist, but that doesn't mean it's accessible for all
There seems to be some confusion about whether it's real or not. This site insists that it's a misunderstanding rather than a rebranding of the whole office suite:
Ignore the social media 'experts', Microsoft has not renamed Microsoft 365 to Microsoft 365 Copilot. A year-old name change is only now being used as 'evidence'
I agree: Microsoft is terrible at naming things. Either it uses one name for everything (formerly Explorer, now Copilot) or it can't decide what one product is called for more than ten minutes at a time (Office being an obvious example).
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@CppGuy I didn't do a lot of research on this, it did look like there was some change in April 2025, and that that message has been there since then (thank you, Wayback machine!), but I was thinking it could well be that Microsoft has announced they are now, on top of that, renaming the standalone non-subscription software too, in a change that hadn't been reflected in the site yet (I was wondering if Nadella had said something like that).
Either way, their wording *is* quite confusing, but at this point it's the same mess as Outlook. Why do they do naming like this? Is it a selling point if the consumer can't even name what they want to buy? (Perhaps it is, if the intent is to hide the less profitable options...)
In the end, we may have to wait for the next release of the non-subscription suite to know for sure...
(I'm also perhaps skeptical of the part in the office-watch.com article which says some subscriptions only have Copilot if you pay extra, given how much they're pushing GenAI. If this is indeed currently the case, it likely it will change.)
@CppGuy Haha yes. I programmed to their spell checker APIs decades ago, (implementing one) and already then it was true that every next iteration of the docs was worse than the previous. @alice @njsg
Wait... is that... CLIPPY hiding there in plain sight? Is Microsoft finally admitting that copilot is just another useless, annoying, pushy distraction getting in the way?
"You look like you're trying to write something meaningful! Would you like me to replace that with the average of a million strangers shitposting on the Internet?"
this feels like โNewspeakโ from 1984, but instead of reducing thought directly is by means of destroying real meaning โHey do you have Word?, the Office thingyโ now becomes โdo you have a subscription to the Microsoft 360 copilot app Word with copilot? The agentic text editor with AIโ I truly believe no one truly think this is good, they just awestruck
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in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •I should state for the record that I think LLMs and other forms of AI have some valid and worthwhile uses, and that *none* of them should be tied to big tech or capitalism.
See things like:
- accessibility
- some types of research
- spell-check and predictive keyboards
- spam/scam filtering
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in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Please tell me this is made up. I'm starting to read posts on Microslop, so I'm guessing it is real, but I do have a tiny bit of hope that MICROS~1 didn't do something this stupid...
Ah, who am I kidding, this is Microsoft. In fact the same Microsoft of the free webmail service "Outlook", of the mail client "Outlook" and of the webmail for Exchange "Outlook", and I'm probably forgetting something else they've named "Outlook" too. So naming choices certainly aren't their strong suit.
#Microslop
njsg
Unknown parent • • •@draeath @autolycos I personally rarely use a tool like these in MS Office or LibO and, yeah, most of the time it's either plain text or \LaTeX.
(To me, the selling point is that I can work on "documents" in the text editor.)
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in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •... also, dark blue on a dark background? (especially the image/icon on the second screenshot, but the heading on the first is also not really standing out much from the background)
Or is my display or GPU somehow mangling these colors?
Darth Osler
in reply to njsg • • •@njsg @draeath I used LaTex to write my CV a few years ago.
I had a peer review it and, well, I haven't touched LaTex since
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in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •office was their biggest brand besides windows. Killing that brand for a AI app that not many people are interested in probably won't work out so well.
But it's a bold move... Just not a smart one imo
tootbrute
in reply to Sablebadger • • •I'm happy. Office is the only thing tethering most people to windows.
Now, thanks to AI, they can be free (to leave #microslop)
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in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Oh my god, is that abstract graphic representing AI tying the office suite together a paperclip??!
Microslop 365 Copilot app (formerly Office): RETURN OF CLIPPY
i suggest guillotines (mal)
in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •don't be silly, alice
microsoft don't have balls
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in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •My company had to disable Teams video recording and transcription services bc of the copilot stuff, due to security concerns. It's been more than a year and we haven't gotten it back.
This stuff is being shoved down our throats and major organizations are unable to use it bc it's so unsafe. It's making these applications pure bloatware/malware.
Honestly, it's a good time for new developers to enter the space with non-enshittified products.
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in reply to ChloChlo • • •@CordiallyChloe Meanwhile, management is signing the praises of these same features at my place of work
@alice
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in reply to rotsaruckz63 • • •@rotsaruckz63 @sylvie I am so happy to have escaped that crap 10 years ago. but sometimes you cant avoid it or you will loose your job, sadly.
for example libre office still messes complex word documents with mixed tables, change tracking marks, and lots of styles and hierarchical chapters; for these I have word 2010 in a win10 vm, I rarely use it except for customer specs, most docs can be directly edited in libre office without messing them up.
Sylvie
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Unknown parent • • •There seems to be some confusion about whether it's real or not. This site insists that it's a misunderstanding rather than a rebranding of the whole office suite:
office-watch.com/2026/microsofโฆ
@njsg
Microsoft 365 has NOT been renamed โMicrosoft 365 Copilotโ
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Unknown parent • • •@njsg
I agree: Microsoft is terrible at naming things. Either it uses one name for everything (formerly Explorer, now Copilot) or it can't decide what one product is called for more than ten minutes at a time (Office being an obvious example).
C++ Wage Slave
Unknown parent • • •I can believe it. And I've coded to enough of their APIs never to want to code to one of their APIs again.
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njsg
in reply to C++ Wage Slave • • •@CppGuy I didn't do a lot of research on this, it did look like there was some change in April 2025, and that that message has been there since then (thank you, Wayback machine!), but I was thinking it could well be that Microsoft has announced they are now, on top of that, renaming the standalone non-subscription software too, in a change that hadn't been reflected in the site yet (I was wondering if Nadella had said something like that).
Either way, their wording *is* quite confusing, but at this point it's the same mess as Outlook. Why do they do naming like this? Is it a selling point if the consumer can't even name what they want to buy? (Perhaps it is, if the intent is to hide the less profitable options...)
In the end, we may have to wait for the next release of the non-subscription suite to know for sure...
(I'm also perhaps skeptical of the part in the office-watch.com article which says some subscriptions only have Copilot if you pay extra, given how much they're pushing GenAI. If this is indeed currently the case, it likely it will change.)
Rhialto
in reply to C++ Wage Slave • • •Haha yes. I programmed to their spell checker APIs decades ago, (implementing one) and already then it was true that every next iteration of the docs was worse than the previous.
@alice @njsg
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in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Wait... is that... CLIPPY hiding there in plain sight? Is Microsoft finally admitting that copilot is just another useless, annoying, pushy distraction getting in the way?
"You look like you're trying to write something meaningful! Would you like me to replace that with the average of a million strangers shitposting on the Internet?"
#Microsoft #AI #LLM #Copilot #Clippy
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in reply to ๐ ฐ๐ ป๐ ธ๐ ฒ๐ ด (๐๐ฆ) • • •Guess I have to do sicko shit (download libre office for Android)
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I truly believe no one truly think this is good, they just awestruck