It bothers me that before they show the footage of the murder of these people, the news man never says "We are about to show footage where people were killed some viewers might find this disturbing." As they would for other disasters, so when the bile rises in my throat, because I really did just see some people snuffed out of existence I also have to feel like I'm being too sensitive for caring.
The careless way some death is displayed is also a kind of propaganda that explains who matters.
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •And could we get a visual of the size of the US Navy boat next to their "targets" ... it's preposterous.
These are monstrous machines of war. The boats they are shooting are unarmed.
You want the drugs? Want the drug dealers? Point your guns at them and simply take them.
They could find out who sent out the boats. Go find that person. You know if you cared about any of this.
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Speed boat blown up by an aircraft carrier is not the look they want.
I'm not into war or war stuff, but if I were and I was on an aircraft carrier I would be so... disgusted and shamed by this BS. It's like like well it's
Blowing up a motor boat with an aircraft carrier. I can't think of a better example of "disproportionate"
It's embarrassing. Shame on the whole nation.
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mike805
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Hat. AuDHD cat ๐ท๐บ๐๐ป๐ป
in reply to mike805 • • •they absolutely could have done much more damage to us.
they chose not to.
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Hat. AuDHD cat ๐ท๐บ๐๐ป๐ป • • •@CatHat @mike805 @lucy_stoner
They are just (maybe) smugglers or people who have be hired by smugglers. That is, it's basically a small commercial vessel possibly for a black market good, but maybe not even that. Maybe the boat is full of sneakers and fish. We don't even know. It's not even going to the US. Why do we care? Go home.
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •It is the action of a bully, not a warrior (whatever the fuck that is)
Large Format Projectionist
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Agreed! Amplifying:
Constructing a nuclear powered force projection machine, then putting it to work in a puddle in the parking lot of the neighborhood grocery store, is really humiliating.
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •the great thing about killing drug dealers instead of apprehending them is no awkward conversation about "we aren't drug dealers, we're fishing, please note all these fish and absolutely zero drugs apart from Jorge's cigs"
Like I genuinely believe the no survivors policy is because they know they're killing innocent people and don't want to leave any witnesses
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •This has been driving me crazy. And I try to scroll away every time, but they all just put the video in a smaller window in the corner of my screen like they won't let me not watch it. Over and over.
Personally, I saw my dad die in a hospital bed, and I also saw the Twin Towers collapse (both of them) from my roof in Brooklyn. I've watched all the people dying I ever need to see. I don't need any of that anymore. It's deeply irresponsible toward the dead, their families and the people who cared about them, and to us as viewers.
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Jssee Welles:
Well, there's a bloated inefficient bureaucratic mess
run by a mediocre soldier quasi general less.
A diabolical office of death and waste
run by a weekend anchor with a desperate rage
Diane
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •A few years ago the coast guard managed to board a drug running semi-submersible at sea and arrest everyone on board.
youtube.com/watch?v=Da4SqKTXoLโฆ
It'd be way easier to do that to a surface boat.
Coast Guard Dude Surfs a Narco-Sub Packed With Cocaine
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FeloniousPunk
in reply to Diane • • •@alienghic @OrdRadical I always wondered why the guy opened the hatch. โOh who could that be at the door at this hour?โ
Just submerge, stop, and pull a hard right
Diane
in reply to FeloniousPunk • • •@FeloniousPunk @OrdRadical
I don't think that narco craft could submerge, it just floated really low.
And we can't see what's going on with the tower between the guard getting to it and it being opened.
It might not have a proper lock and the guard was able to pry it open.
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@futurebird
I expect that by the time the Coast Guard had boarded the craft, they were already prepared to breach the hatch with as much force as necessary.
Keeping the hatch closed at that point might have been suicidal.
FeloniousPunk
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Breaks my heart over & over again.
Itโs cold-blooded mass murder & needs to be treated as such.
Grumble ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ฆ
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •During Desert Storm, my ship's air wing had lots of night missions. At the 8am ship's news TV show, they'd show raw infrared targeting video highlights before they were sent off for the admirals and CNN and whatnot.
When the Iraqis were retreating down the highway in a long convoy, our A-6s attacked - take out the lead trucks, take out the end-of-the-line trucks, and now all the trucks are stopped and have nowhere to go. On the IR footage, you can watch the grainy little pixels that are people hauling ass from the trucks and taking cover in the ditches along the road.
And then you watched the A-6s targeting aimpoint slew from the trucks to the people, and then the popcorn-flashes of hundreds of cluster munitions going off, killing the people while leaving the trucks. And my shipmates roared and cheered.
[*Lawrence and Ali watch as British cannons fire in the distance*]
Sherif Ali: God help the men that lie under that.
T.E. Lawrence: They are Turks.
Sherif Ali: God help them.
spiegelmama
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Rachel
in reply to Rachel • • •These sorts of boats get routinely interdicted by the Coast Guard. I'm not making any claims that people are handled with actual respect there, they're basically boat cops. But FFS it is better than outright murder. If the boats can be tracked that far away they can be intercepted as they have been doing for decades.
But with the pardons of actual drug traffickers I feel like the justification of "narco terrorism" (also wtf at that terminology) is pretty bullshit
Which leads to a motivation of 1) abject racism, or 2) wanting to build racist sentiment in support of a bullshit war on Venezuela
The first strike was insane, the second strike is beyond the pale based on everything from human rights laws, US laws, common decency, laws of war, US military doctrine and guidance (see JP 3-60 appendix A), for other refs see here: thelongmemo.com/p/hegseths-ordโฆ
Hegsethโs Order Was Unlawful Before the Missile Even Left the Rail
William A. Finnegan (The Long Memo (TLM))Cat
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