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in canada, non profits have work in the areas you are discussing. I have work at one site, a job that is difficult to fill at a site that struggles with hiring. Yes non profits can be considered "sell outs", compromising values for funding, but they do provide for people struggling. I cook 2 days a week. In 4 years this building has been open, they have only had one other person cook my shifts, and only for 5 months. The site i work at hasn't had a janitor in over two years. The people who live there used to be homeless and many of them struggle with substance use/self medication. Another option for joining in.
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@doublemonkeyfun - Yeah, non-profits and charities are similar in that. It's capitalism co-opting community movements.

The goals of that non-profit are good, as you've mentioned. But the apparatus of the non-profit and forcing it to find "funding" from capitalist sources are limited.

It makes sense that it has the problems its having.

My section where I say I'll work with some charities if it has an apparatus that helps with an immediate goal applies to non-profits as well.

I don't think of them as "sell-outs" - I just dont think that model works at all. The examples that you've given align with my understanding.

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What a generous essay! Thank you for sharing everything you know so far about mutual aid. Some really solid points about knowing the difference between charities and actually effective work one can do.

I donated a bunch of food to this great after-school center with all kinds of cool programs, overtly for all kids, essentially for underprivileged kids. I want them to have everything.

I’ve also started a couple local communities for like-minded people to get together over common interests, and they are really hard to get off the ground, so I appreciated the point of not being tempted to roll your own when you can be more effective going where people already are.

And omg so true about relying on the internet as little as possible. OPSEC more than ever before, people. Work locally for maximum impact.

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for me, when I moved there 3 years ago, it was *food* — it was the pandemic and I was just really drawn to making sure people could EAT. Food banks, community gardens, garden training, farm share, food co-ops... it took me a minute to work into it but as you say, they're all connected. My fav time of year is when I can pick up from farm share and drop half at the food bank. It's more "charity" I guess but I can afford it. And it connected me to a TON of b-corps...
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@susankayequinn - That's awesome! I've pivoted from food banks into free fridges and community pantries as a distribution model. I'm also looking at expanding food production.

I'm trying to move from charity to mutual aid to post-scarcity food.

So Food Inputs (Production):
- Charity / Donation (eg Food Drives)
- Food Rescue from Restaurants, Grocery Stores, etc (relies on capitalistic initiatives though)
- Community Farms (Centralized Production)
- Community Gardens, Backyard Gardens, Indoor farming (Decentralized Production)

Food Outputs (Distribution)
- Centralized: Food Banks to Food Pantries
- Decentralized: Free Fridges / Community Pantries
- Peer-to-peer: Person to person exchange either through in person coordination or via apps like Olio

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yes 100%

The solarpunk discord has some free fridges & food rescue. Grow Pittsburgh is a whole operation that trains people to do community gardens. One of the mods is building an exchange system for labor/goods in the community.

Pittsburgh has like #1 abandoned lots in the country or something so Grounded does work trying to reclaim those for food/greenspace. Still very capitalistic tho.

Buy Nothing has food exchanges.

People just don't know this stuff EXISTS. It's very early days.

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& nonprofits, one of which sponsored a solarpunk Expo & then we were getting closer. The vibes were better. But still *networking* maybe? Working toward something that connected likeminded folks for support (emotional mutual aid LOL).

I'm literally tomorrow zooming w/2 other non-profit peeps to organize our solarpunk discord: still sussing it out but it's a way to connect, give info, I'm gonna maybe teach solarpunk classes to draw people in etc

I'm gonna think about this post tho...

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@susankayequinn - That's amazing!!! Let me know what y'all come up with.

I've got a nascent solarpunk group in my town and we work with a lot of the mutualaid groups around us.

I'd like to connect with other similar groups and start networking our towns and cities. Share ideas and see what works, etc.

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oh cool! You know, I feel like this is just bubbling up everywhere at once. Feels invisible but people are just like OH HECK Imma just do this. It's beautiful.

I love the idea of having some higher level networking to see what works. Applications have to be super local cuz that's how that works but IDEAS should swish around so they can find where they'll work best.

I'll think on this thread and touch back with you as we progress. 💚 🌱

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That all sounds great. I suggest another area to start: If you are working, your workplace is a good spot. The advantage of your workplace is that you are already there and that your workplace's dependence on its workers gives you special power. I invite people to contact me for training and literature on organizing the workplace. Many of the methods also apply in other sorts of organizing, so I invite you to contact me even if it is not for workplace organizing.
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Yes, I also do that :blobcat_sipsmile: Also maybe I'm a bit of an edge case because I don't have much money and free food makes it a lot easier for me. Also I love good food and also love cooking. Those three things probably make this the perfect group for me.

It's very important for us to make the food nourishing as well as as tasty as possible. Half a year ago we got an industry oven for free (it was advertised for €50, but in the end they giftd it to us) from a restaurant that upgraded their oven and it was the best thing ever. We can now bake up to 100 portions at once, we already made Lasagna, Gratin, and various Cakes.

Especially now it is important that people in Vienna build cooking and food distribution groups since the local government abolished warm meals in homeless shelters some weeks ago. In the midfle of fucking Winter!!! It's fucking grim at the moment.

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@unionwhore 1/2
Hello now you say that i have read a book, it was a sociologilal + photographical ( and political) work from a study on the greek big crisis since 2018, titled "un archipel de solidarités".

It shows how people resisted the crisis in strong solidarity. I strongly recommend this book, but if you can't read french here is what stroke me.
This man's experience, is important, imho.

He was taking care of people, looking for post date food in bakeries, restaurants.

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It varies by region and by time but you'll often find groups that are pretty insular and that isn't where you want to be if you have other options. You'll get government agencies that don't want to work with community groups, churches that won't work with anyone outside their faith, socialists that won't work with anyone who hasn't memorized enough Marx...so look for the flyers that have ten different logos on them, go to the street festivals and find the booths that don't quite seem to fit in, because those are the people actively trying to build a broader community. They'll be much more willing to answer questions and connect you to the right people.

You can also often just find and plug in to mutual aid groups directly. At least around here you can find Food not Bombs on Facebook, distributing food at the same time and place every week where they've been for years. (They haven't made feeding people illegal yet here...) Not every mutual aid action can be that public, but some often can, and that's a great place to start too.

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Around a year since I first read this, rereading some of my old bookmarks, and finding that wow, I am right along this path! I've found and befriended someone who seems to be a major (and very long standing) leader who helped shape my home, and I've been learning so much I never expected (or originally intended) to know about politics, local community, and radical organization - And meeting more, elders with experience seeking out my generation to pass on lessons and help us find spots!

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thank you for this!! a few additions (it honestly feels like a cheat code):

bikeshops are chockablock with the most radical people you've ever met that have a sense of humor

tool libraries are like makerspaces for regular folks that aren't looking for a 3d printer/CNC timeshare

mask-blocs are a great way to find covid-conscious folks and events in your area

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all of these allow for covid-safer ways to contribute. my local bike co-op & tool library do repair clinics. when it's warm they're outdoors and you can contribute at any skill level.

i have a sewing machine, hand tools, and a big powerbank, so i end up fixing chains, flats, tuning up derailleurs, mending clothes, and hemming pants.

mask-blocs always need help distributing supplies and are your ticket to finding other people with similar concerns, as well as disability-aware friends

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@tomjennings bikes have been an enabling technology for societal improvement for very many years, from the early enablement of feminism to mobility and independence in rural areas to a sticking point in reparations for ww2

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What's missing from this discussion the most I think is labor unions. They are a source of power one shouldn't ignore. Especially since unions have been some of the more important non-state actors to combat fascism throughout history.

Unions also give you something you have in common: your workplace or your trade.

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@amici - Agreed. From a "beginner" standpoint, though, you either know about your union or you don't.

That post is really geared towards people new to the concept as a whole and are looking to join something already in existence. If they have a union at their place of work, they'll know about it and how to join it. If they don't, they'll generally have to organize and create one themselves, which is outside the scope of that post.

That said. Yes. Unions are key and important part of mutual aid. Thank you for highlighting that.

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Genuine: How does this adapt for disabled people with chronic fatigue & can’t get out of the house easily?

How can we let irl mutual aid groups know we exist & be a part of them?

For folks w/ my conditions I’m lucky that I can occasionally leave the house. I’ve tried to sooooo-slowly build community at my zen Buddhist center. Ppl are kind & accommodating when I can make it there physically, but that’s <1/mo these days. I also talk to a librarian who wears an N95 for 5 minutes once/2mo.

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@moss I like Rebecca Solnit's view; it's not about direction of aid, but because we share something in mutual. For example, me giving money to a mutual aid fund for Palestinians is more accurately described as redistribution. I'm a well paid person in the imperial core, I'm not going to be asking for money from them. But it is mutual aid because both giver and recipient share values of Palestinian survival. Mutual in building relationships.

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@fedi.emmjuettner.com Thank you so much :HeartDisability:

At first I was like “what would I get aid for?” bc I feel privileged to be able to pay house cleaners 1x 2wk for what I can’t do, or scrape together for delivery from farmers market & restos. I tell others they deserve more than to survive, I needed the nudge too

If I was less worried abt food prep or home care—or those things could be more ethical, frequent, or low spoon I cld redistro my spoons/$ to more meaningful places too

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@moss
I was born during 1950s Jim Crow, my grandparents, born from 1900 to 1910, believed in cooperative mutualism, like Kropotkin described.

Today, I am often attacked personally for valuing mutual aid as working together for a shared common good, cooperating for food, for housing, for medical care.

Nowhere does that remotely suggest we shouldn't help others with indivudual cricumstances, it just means mutual aid must have a broader definition than crowdfunded self-interest.

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I am a small town anarchist librarian and I appreciate the library shout-out! We have a community fridge and sometimes just talking about it on the usual platforms can help bring resources (food) to people who need it.

One thing I tell people is just to find a way to meet with people f2f for basically anything (board games, supper club, walking group, dog playtime). Once you're there ask "How can we help with X?" and then see if you can seek out resources or folx who are working on X.

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one additional approach I would suggest that pairs with this is to get to know your very close by neighbors - the other residents of your apartment building or block. Not immediately in a mutual aid context but rather in forming some regular neighborhood (or building wide) shared social activity (block party is a big but usually only once a year) better is something more frequent. The goal being to both get to know each other and build a shared group communication channel

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then over time such high trust groups often lend themselves to informal mutual aid as well (it might start with helping find a lost dog but soon becomes how people first give extras away or organize to help others in the neighborhood. I’ve seen this on the very hyperlocal scale with what started first with the moms on my current block getting together for porch evening bring your own drinks gatherings during early COVID. That list now is used for neighbors helping each other in many ways
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this can evolve very naturally in a smaller geography but it is also possible centered on a shared high trust bond - I’ve seen this with my son’s school as well where there are multiple shared groups for parents (some for just my son’s grade and some for the whole school community) that are used - and intended to be used - for giving stuff away (from small stuff like extra tickets to an event to large items like entire bunk beds someone’s kids have outgrown)
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I recently moved from a UK city to a tiny rural village, via a few years on a canal boat.

I'm not naturally social so for years most has been online, but always also with one or two neighbours and acquaintances. On occasions I "looked".

Until now. I wasn't so much looking but hoping *this time* I might make more local friends, but wasn't expecting it.

I've been so welcomed in this village. It feels like going back in time.

Just by being here out & about with my dog.

It still exists.

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the way this post is written, it sounds like mutual aid groups are some kind of underground resistance movement that the cops are actively trying to infiltrate and shut down. is that really how it is? why would the cops even care that much, and what crime(s) could a mutual aid group be accused of breaking anyway?

what would happen if I just volunteered at a charity and was completely open and honest about being interested in mutual aid and about not being a Christian? I hate lying or misleading people

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@kasdeya - Coming back to this thread, sorry for the late response.

But yeah! Right?! So two examples, one historical and another more recent.

When the Black Panthers started up a mutual aid program to feed school children free breakfast, they put all the food in a local church to prepare for the next day. The local police went into the church and urinated on all the food in an attempt to destroy the program.

More recently, we see police coming down hard on mutual aid groups trying to feed the hungry. Houston Food Not Bombs was getting a ticket EACH TIME they fed people. They were in the upper hundreds of tickets last I checked.

Long and short, if your mutual aid group is undercutting the social order (which is where we all individually get our resources from corporations), then the local town and police may step in.

That said, you, personally, can join a charity group and feed people. Certainly. Charity groups don't solve the underlying *reason* why hunger (or whatever else they're serving) exists in the first place, but they can help people in the immediacy. So go for it.