TLDR; The PSF has made the decision to put our community and our shared diversity, equity, and inclusion values ahead of seeking $1.5M in new revenue. Please read and share. pyfound.blogspot.com/2025/10/N…
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The PSF has withdrawn $1.5 million proposal to US government grant program
In January 2025, the PSF submitted a proposal to the US government National Science Foundation under the Safety, Security, and Privacy of Op...Python Software Foundation Blog
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •I have been subjected to this kind of contractual violence on a personal level too.
It's shocking and upsetting to see people abuse positions of privilege to exert power and control over other people in this way - but sadly this cancer exists in humanity!
It's not even a choice, you would be stupid as all fuck to agree to these motherless dog shits' terms and conditions.
Well done for standing your ground - long live PSF💪
DEATH TO FASCISM 💀
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in reply to Jaycosm🔆 • • •@jay You think the right answer to receiving money on the condition of being fascist to to pretend to be fascist? That is.... Painfully short sighted. It would drive away contributors and make the terms and conditions seem acceptable to organisations. Plus the foundation would eventually lose the money anyway due to the clawback clause. Better that everyone turn down the money and show themselves to be better people.
There are more important things than money.
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in reply to DistroWatch • • •The clawback clause is *nuclear* too. Not only would they lose 1.5million they already spent if they did the "take the money and do it anyway" plan, they could actually lose the money they got from every OTHER government grant they ever took before signing that thing.
You don't play stupid games with the US government, even this one. They can make sure you win VERY stupid prizes.
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There also exists the likelihood that the US government in its present state would make up a reason to trigger that clawback clause -- and it doesn't have to be a good one. The $1.5m offered is tied to a leash and collar, and that collar is rather noose-shaped.
Even setting aside the Python Foundation's commitment to what these clowns call 'DEI' and the rest of us call 'human fucking rights', from an organizational perspective, it's better not to give any political organization, but particularly the current US federal government, the ability to simply wipe the group off the map at a whim.
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in reply to Jaycosm🔆 • • •@jay They're not giving up, they're sticking to their governing principles.
Taking your approach is dishonest and breaks trust with their community.
Also, I'm guessing you're not familiar with legal matters. If the organization was found to be intentionally breaking contract, they'd not only need to pay back the money, they'd also have legal fees and possible penalties, and interest to pay back too. They'd be further behind financially than they are now.
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in reply to DistroWatch • • •It isn't breaking a contract if it's a loophole, but if nobody is even going to try to find one, well, that's a shame.
P.S. - I just checked. Any interest from a grant must be remitted back to the US gov't 👎
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •in one hand, is sad because we know how many great things is done using this money....
But i agree with this positiion, stay strong
Thank you for holding back our great community
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •Thank you!
Could you also please ask Deb or someone else to get back to @Teckids concerning the parts of the community currently locked out from PyPI after being cancelled by the adultist terms in the PSF's new terms of use?
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •thank you for standing for the community!!! 🥰
Next steps: Getting PyConUS out of America, into a place like Canada
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in reply to Franchesca • • •1. Because it is called PyConUS - so keeping it in the americas would be better.
2. Because we have EuroPython, which is just as amazing
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •Bureaucratic nightmare but not fascist.
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •Thank you.
I dearly wish this wasn't noteworthy, but it is, so you get kudos for it.
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •the PSF should stick to Python and software and value people solely on merit and our shared humanity. They should NOT discriminate against *anyone* based on gender, sexuality or race/ethnicity. DEI programs unfortunately often seem to do that.
MLK made clear in his "I Have A Dream" speech he wanted his kids to grow up in a world where they were judged by the content of their character not by the color of their skin. He literally said that and we should take him at his word. I do. So should you. But regardless of whether you agree with MLK or not the PSF should stay *out* of gender, sexuality, race/ethnicity/color and stay out of politics. Stick to Python. This should be obvious, I think.
Thankfully I've moved on from the Python community. Too much immature self-inflicted drama. Software *engineering*, folks -- focus on that.
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in reply to synlogic4242 • • •@synlogic4242 Community health, and therefore things that some would call politics, is an inseperable part of open source. You're asking the PSF to "stay out of" these things, when that is exactly what opens the doors to bigotry and discrimination. In fact, this "should avoid politics" argument is often used exactly by bigots, with the hope that they'll be allowed to be bigoted in more communities.
This has become so crystal clear to me that, in the absence of very strong anti-discrimination rules, i mentally translate "no politics" policies to actually mean "queerphobes and racists welcome".
I can't know whether you are aware of this, but i hope this was ignorance, not malice.
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Not talking about politics is extremely political. Not caring about oppression and discrimination is extremely political. It's high time the technical people leave their bubble and take a look at the real world, beyond their little individuality
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •hey Ruby, this is how you do it.
There's far too many open source foundations and maintainers that should learn from this. Thanks for doing the right thing PSF!
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •On organization standing up for their (good) values?! Donation made.
I encourage other people making bigtech salaries to do the same if you use Python. The work the PSF does helps me make a good living, I can throw some back to them! If you can match at your employer, even better.
Also, you should be a member, too.
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George Orwell, your time has come!
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •Jörn Franke
in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •It would be great if you can provide an additional donation option for European people (or even better a European association or via an European Association, such as alasca.cloud/en/). Europe has a very efficient high-speed (less than 10 seconds you have it) bank transfer system (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_E…) at much lower costs than credit cards/paypal.
With a European entity you could also apply to @sovtechfund for grants without sacrifying your values.
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •"promote DEI, or discriminatory equity ideology"
That is some "creative" re-framing they got going on there...
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •Doing the right thing you “lost out on this large funding source.” But know that people doing the right thing never lose anything. For them it is a win-win because it is the right thing to do especially because it is the right time to do the right thing!
The upside is that we as part of the PSF community, we appreciate your bravery and will support you however we can!
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •My company is pretty much built on #Python.
We just made a significant donation to the PSF in recognition to their great work on the language, of which a small but important part is their commitment to fairness (or "DEI" as USians call it).
If you can, you can donate any amount at psfmember.org/civicrm/contribu….
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I'd be inclined to interpret this provision as saying that you can't run any DEI programmes that break the law and then insist that your programs don't break the law, but with that clawback provision it's just not safe. You could even have them review and OK your programmes, but you could never trust them not to blackmail you later.
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •It requires the intake of a significant amount of drugs to understand, how promoting diversity, equity and inclusion is violating an anti-discrimination law for being considered some discriminatory equity ideology.
Understanding #fascist and #populist rhetoric requires oneself to ignore the established meaning of words making communication useless and solely focus on the sounds they make. It's like apes grunting at each other.
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •I would really love to support you.
But currently I cannot, because you share my PII with the US authorities which will have a negative on me and every supporter who might want to enter the US going forward.
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in reply to Python Software Foundation • • •La fondation Python renonce à une subvention de 1,5 million de dollars plutôt qu’à ses valeurs - ZDNET
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