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This is #healthcare in the #USA

A #doctor argues for approval for a procedure with a #UnitedHealthcare hack

She posted it on social media and is now blacklisted by #UHC and she had to sell her house and get a lawyer, they're ruining her career over this video:

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If you live in the #US dont get too mad- your blood pressure will spike and your healthcare sucks because you're just "a little person" and your moronic country prefers you to just die

#medicine #insurance #UNH

#usa #us #healthcare #insurance #medicine #doctor #unitedhealthcare #uhc #unh
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@Oldfartrant @skyfire747 Every Republican President since Eisenhower has crashed the economy, every Democrat has fixed it, in some cases with the active opposition of the GOP. The only way that will change is if Trump crashes our society so badly rebuilding it is hopeless.
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So when United Health's CEO was assassinated, the lesson they learned was not "let's be less shitty and actually help people," but "Let's continue to be shitty but hide our identities."

It's time to burn the whole fucking thing down to the ground and start over.

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United Healthcare is such a racket. They require an annual “wellness” exam, which is a good thing but they do not define, otherwise your monthly insurance premium increases $150 per person on the plan. Since the “wellness” exam is not clearly defined, we argue with them every year when they refuse to pay for the standard blood testing 🙄

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Billionaires are funding the destruction of American health care.

Bradley, Koch, Coors, Scaife Mellon, Seid, Uihlein
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Voters didn't suddenly wake up one day & volunteer to die.

It's the Heritage Foundation that wants to remake health care into a revenue source for the 1%
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Nationalized healthcare is better. It makes businesses more competitive moving healthcare to the public sector.

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GOP and Koch Groups Want to Slash Medicaid to Pay for Trump’s Tax Cuts - EXPOSEDbyCMD

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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

sarcasm doesnt communicate in text. you have to use the sarcasm indicator (/s)

we don't know you. and trolls and stupid maga people are real. for all we know you're being sincere. there's no indicator or way for us to know you're joking. it's your responsibility to communicate that, not our job to be mystified by your intentions and make assumptions

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@theolodian @nazokiyoubinbou @Oldfartrant @skyfire747 I believe you may just have made the point about not getting sarcasm. If you have to declare it, it isn’t sarcasm. I’m not trying to initiate conflict. It’s a cultural thing. I feel so sorry for you all, having to undergo such an awful system each time someone is ill. As we in Europe see it ( UK here btw ) free public healthcare isn’t communism. It’s common sense.
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@theolodian @nazokiyoubinbou @Oldfartrant @skyfire747 I believe you may just have made the point about not getting sarcasm. If you have to declare it, it isn’t sarcasm. I’m not trying to initiate conflict. It’s a cultural thing. I feel so sorry for you all, having to undergo such an awful system each time someone is ill. As we in Europe see it ( UK here btw ) free public healthcare isn’t communism. It’s common sense.
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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

no

europeans are not possessing of magical powers to divine someone's intentions in a straight text post

what you're writing here is bullshit, i'm sorry

the point is morons and trolls are real. who's to know?

unless you know the person, there is zero way for you to divine sarcasm over sincerity in a post without any inflections or facial expressions

this is just a pure communication issue

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@nazokiyoubinbou @theolodian @MrInappropriate @Oldfartrant @skyfire747

i think we have a culture clash here

what i'm understanding is the british are heavy users of sarcasm, so that's their first go to in reading a comment

and us americans require a clear indication of sarcasm, which the british are assuming is some sort of handicap

while i don't like to make cultural judgments, i'm coming down on the side of americans here:

do they not have trolls and morons in the uk?

how can one know?

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@peterbrown ....as perhaps a helpful reference point, the inflection point in the graph at say around 1980(?)-ish corresponds rather splendidly with Reagan's first term...& just for some added, if tangental, context, that's the same moment when the transfer of of trillions and trillions of wealth and from the vast working/middle class to the tiny top 1% wealthy US population ramped way up...sickness, death, strife & poverty are the Republican's legacy....
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Grovewest

I worked in insurance including some health insurance companies as a consultant. I once interviewed at UHC and it was strange. When I described what was said my companies rep was stunned and refused to let me work there. It sounds like UHC is using the privacy laws to intimidate and impose non-disclosure on customers for technically legal but unethical activities that they fear will be exposed. (1/2)

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@praetor Many insurance companies, UHC is probably one, required me to sign very strict non-disclosure and no compete agreements that they do enforce. There are some legit reasons, I was always dealing with very sensitive business and medical data. But some use them to hide activities they do not want exposed. It’s not very difficult to know which companies to avoid. They don’t hide their hubris - are proud of it.
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@Grovewest whistleblowing is protected by law and a lot of people don't know that because a lot of HR departments don't tell you that. If they even know. I'm a contractor so I've signed TONS of NDAs, and they can only cover actual trade secrets, they can't be used to hide illegal or unethical activity or illicit retribution to disclosing that activity to the authorities.
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we are, here in america, indeed, living in a suicide cult

some of us are not willing participants in it though, it's forced on us

we encounter morons and trolls on a regular basis who speak as you speak, but sincerely. i have no idea who you are. i didn't know where you are from

an honest question for you:

are there no morons and trolls in the uk?

how do you know via a text only post who you're dealing with?

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Last year when I renewed my health insurance policy (through the ACA marketplace) I intentionally switched away from United because of their bad faith practices. I was never personally harmed by them, and quite frankly my new coverage does provide access to as many doctors, but I could no longer in good conscience be a customer of UHC. I encourage everyone who can to move away from them. Deny them business. Drive them out of business, even.

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@zannesan if BCBS is still owned by Anthem, then I had a very similar experience with Anthem-- the support agents always admitted it was an error but could never seem to do anything about it, and just forwarded my call to others, forever. After a few dozen hours on the phone, I finally went to the California State agency that oversees insurance. They got results fairly quickly. I concur with another here who said to do that. It seems to be Anthem's business model to get away with this because people just give up. Don't let them.
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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

so let's say you're dealing with a british topic online and you see this in response to a politically charged post:

"just like a poor person"

you assume sarcasm, i assume

but how can you be sure? how do you know you're not dealing with an idiot?

i'm going to make a prediction

you will not like it:

online social media, in text form at least, is going to kill the longstanding british tradition of heavy sarcasm

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@zannesan
I know you don't need to hear it but it is always an example to tell folk who fear socialised medicine.
My dad who is in his 80's got sepsis about 4 years ago and was in hospital for 3 months including 6 weeks the high dependency ward. He recovered well and carried on with life.
He then had a stroke (unrelated to the sepsis) before xmas 2024. He made a very swift recovery, only in hospital for about 4 weeks this time. No charge for any of it.
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as long as us americans keep getting quality syndicated british television which is always full of heavy british sarcasm

it is delighful from the american point of view

i can't say "well met" but i gave you a follow

please reply to me one day or another in heavy sarcasm, unindicated

i will be amused only, i promise

i got your number now! 😆

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@theolodian @nazokiyoubinbou @Oldfartrant @skyfire747 I think that we (UK) have a propensity for mocking earnestness at every opportunity. We think it’s welcoming. Perhaps it’s not seen as such by other cultures . Certainly, we tend to take the piss out of those we love most, most. ( I’m inordinately proud of that, btw.) If we are sarcastic with/to you, it means you’re sound.
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THIS my Insurance company. My cardiologist prescribed Brilinta after my Angioplasty and Stent insertion and they denied it . They instead prescribed Plavix.

Brilinta (ticagrelor) and Plavix (clopidogrel) are both antiplatelet medications used to prevent blood clots, but they differ in strength, administration, and potential side effects. Brilinta is generally considered more potent and faster-acting than Plavix but carries a higher risk of bleeding. Plavix is generic so cheaper.

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@theolodian @nazokiyoubinbou @MrInappropriate @Oldfartrant @skyfire747 I'm so sorry to jump in here, but I am, as someone who grew up in New York, really baffled at the implication that Americans don't get sarcasm. I mean, dunno about everyone else, but learned sarcasm well before I mastered English.
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Juggling With Eggs

As a Brit, I fear the creeping privatisation of our healthcare system, because it means essentially entering a zone whereby insurance companies will determine whether we live or die.

And when the medical practitioners the insurance companies use to determine their decisions are so far removed from the specialisms they’re making decisions on…we’re *ucked. This video confirms that to me.

It already happens with disability benefits…this is the next horrific stage.

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@JugglingWithEggs That part is obvious. I currently do not have insurance, but I recently have been diagnosed with polycythemia (excess hemoglobin) because I'm from the mountains. Higher altitude, lower oxygen, and now I live in Texas where I can't breath because the air is too thick. And polycythemia makes your blood thick, and it can clot. Think I can get meds for that till I can go back to the mountains? No. My anxiety meds for my PTSD...free. Can eat them like Skittles and get more
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@praetor @JugglingWithEggs They (the decision-makers) see the take-home pays and determine that their power and privilege is a greater priority than society's well-being. The question of privatisation has never been about provision of services, but who has the power to decide
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@JugglingWithEggs you're not wrong
far, far more damaging though is that the private interests likely feel no obligation other than rent extraction, so their calculus will always favor whatever measures increase revenue or reduce cost. Patient welfare is not a priority, nor is public health, society in general, and certainly not the workers in the system - those entities are anathema to the private interest
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Bodhipaksa

@JugglingWithEggs As a fellow Brit, now living in the US, I think you should be very worried.

Health insurance companies exist to make money, and they do that by making sure that you pay more for your treatment than is necessary, and by preventing you from getting treatment that you need.

Think of the current situation with water in England (not 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 fortunately). Decaying infrastructure. Polluted beaches. Tainted water. Massive profits for shareholders. You don't want that for health.

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@bodhipaksa @JugglingWithEggs Insurance is just not a good to pay for health insurance. For it to work as insurance a much smaller number of people would ever need health care, costs would be predictable - no complications and no one would ever have a pre-existing condition. Employers initially chose it as a less expensive benefit for employees rather than simply paying their medical bills. Now we are stuck with it.
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@Grovewest @bodhipaksa @JugglingWithEggs It is important to understand the actual function of health insurance in the USA.

Health insurance is a collective bargaining organization. A buyers' cartel. It negotiates with the sellers' cartels to get a "better deal" for its customers, but takes a lot of the gain for itself. It's like a corrupt labor union in reverse.

The individual doctor, outside of a medical group, is as screwed as the uninsured patient in this gangster system.

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Bodhipaksa

@mike805 @Grovewest @JugglingWithEggs An insurance buyer's cartel would be run by buyers (us), who would elect representatives to ensure our interests were represented. That would be an improvement.

In real life, health insurance companies have all the power, and consumers have none. We are simply a resource to be charged as much as possible, to be given as little as possible in return, and to be allowed to die if that's more profitable than keeping us alive. It's an evil system.

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@bodhipaksa @mike805 @JugglingWithEggs We do elect representatives that are supposed to ensure our interests are represented. All states have laws and insurance boards appointed by the elected representatives who are tasked with regulating insurance companies. The boards and regulators are paid from the fines so the regulators balance between getting paid and keeping the status quo - not protecting patients or doctors. (1/2)
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@bodhipaksa @Grovewest @JugglingWithEggs So why can't you just walk into the doctors' office and pay directly? You get charged more if you do.

Insurance is supposed to spread out risk of unlikely events. But everyone will need health care. Insurers have evolved into collective bargaining organizations that are supposed to protect their customers from the worst of the ripoffs.

If health care was not a cartel you could pay cash for most things. That was once true.

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the problem is the insurers, not the health care orgs. prices are so high so the orgs get paid something. it's an arms race between two entities, and only one of those entities is genuinely necessary for healthcare. the other is a parasite

your hypothetical rando who walks into the doctors office with $5k in their pocket has nothing to do with anything

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The problem is both the health insurers and the private equity owned health providers. I referred to the insurers as "corrupt unions."

Health care is a Big Con. The insurer is the outside man, the provider is the inside man, and the public is the mark.

The mark doesn't get the fact that everyone around him is cooperating with each other to take his money.

Why are the cash prices for many services a multiple of what the insurance company pays?

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"The insurer is the outside man, the provider is the inside man, and the public is the mark."

oh fuck you

the problem is the healthcare insurance companies. provider costs being high is merely the byproduct of a bullshit finance game being played by this bullshit system that enshrines the insurer parasites

it's some original sin by providers

get the fuck out of here with this stupid bullshit

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@bodhipaksa @Grovewest @JugglingWithEggs If my car needs bodywork, I can either pay for that myself (if I'm the one that wrecked it) or an insurance company can pay.

I do NOT pay 2X or 5X or 10X as much if I pay myself, versus if an insurance company pays.

WHY is it that such overcharging exists in health care? Answer me that.

Because clinics, hospitals, imaging centers, etc. have been bought up by private equity. You know, those economic parasites you are always complaining about.

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@mike805 @bodhipaksa @Grovewest @JugglingWithEggs

"WHY is it that such overcharging exists in health care? Answer me that."

because of the fucking game

if car costs were paid by insurance instead of individuals, car costs would go up as a byproduct of the insurer trying to squish costs and the mechanic trying to take home enough to survive

you're shooting the wrong person

the problem is 100% the healthcare insurance companies. they're fucking parasites

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@bodhipaksa @Grovewest @JugglingWithEggs Well we disagree on that. I'd say it is about 60 / 40 insurance vs pharma and big health.

Pharma often develops a new drug that is not significantly better than the old drug (sometimes even worse) but a lot more expensive, and then markets the hell out of it, for example.

I mentioned a car cost (bodywork) that is mostly paid by insurance, but sometimes by individuals. It does not have the bizarre pricing that health does.

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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

@mike805 @bodhipaksa @Grovewest @JugglingWithEggs because car repair costs are bourne by individuals. so pricing is sane. while healthcare by insurance companies. so the pricing gets distorted to fuck because they aren't even paying attention to prices with convoluted reimbursement schemes and the price is just some bullshit to posture with. the problem, the source, of course, being the existence of these parasite health insurance executioners, sorry, companies
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@bodhipaksa @Grovewest @JugglingWithEggs Part of the problem with health insurers is they are usually regulated by limiting their profit margins (not how much they can charge.)

If you could keep 10% of however much money flows through your hands, you'd have an incentive to maximize the amount of money that flows through your hands.

This is also a problem with defense contractors and public utilities.

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@stevewfolds
Just to throw some info your way.
In the UK Dentistry and Glasses are not covered for free. You get free dentist checkups and eye test but there are charges for glasses and dental work.
With both of these if you are 60+ or 16 or under you will get them free or at much reduced fee.
Hearing aids are free but can take a while to get so many older people buy their own privately.
My dad has free aids and gets free batteries and maintenance every 6 months (or sooner if required).
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She Exposed the Insurance Industry’s Worst Behavior. Now They’re Coming After Her.

Dr. Elisabeth Potter went viral after accusing UnitedHealthcare of interfering with cancer surgery. She’s still speaking out—despite legal threats.
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my doctors went through something like this when I had two primary cancers. They denied chemo for cancer 2 because it wasn't indicated for cancer 1. They had to fight back against the insurance company (not UHC) and prove themselves. The doctor had literally written the book on the type of cancer I had.

Real doctors go through shit like this on a daily basis. Times that could be spent helping their patients is burnt on this kind of runaround. So, if course they are trying to silence this being discussed in the open.

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Wild that the situation has gotten so out of control here: we have some of the best medical training and research facilities in the world, but patient care and outcomes are some of the worst, simply because non-experts are allowed to interfere in procedures with a profit-motivation to deny care.
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@amalia22 All of Europe has public funded health-care, so I don't know why you think this is relevant ? Except maybe as a caution to not vote Reform or Tory, who will, if allowed, mismanage NHS* into a state where private health-care seems not so bad. @benroyce

*) Mentioning NHS, since you've got a UK flag in you profile.

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@MrInappropriate @nazokiyoubinbou @theolodian @Oldfartrant @skyfire747

Oh, negligible apart from people that were used to it from me. But it took a long time for proto-Canaanite to seep into Iron Age culture but then we got Phoenician, Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc out of it.

I remain hopeful.

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This doctor is a hero! I don't know her name. We should all support her! How disgraceful that doctors who care about their patients have to go through this (and the patients) and that she's being attacked for fighting for her patients. Haven't heard much about Luigi Mangione lately. Healthcare in the US is on life support and insurance companies like #unitedhealthcare are ready to pull the plug for profit.
#unitedhealthcare
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@Allkinds in order to sue her successfully they would have to prove that she was deliberately misrepresenting the interaction with United Healthcare.
That would certainly not be supported by the content of that video. I imagine United healthcare know that and they’re merely intending to intimidate.

Sacking and suing does not good employee relationships make .

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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

"CoMmUnIsM WHARGARBBBBL!" worked in the 1950s on panicky smoothbrains

that it still work in the 2020s is nothing but zombie level brainrot

#communism is dead you fucking american morons

even "communist china" is state capitalism

the threat to you is #plutocracy

not that fox news will ever tell you that

want to wonder why, morons?

#communism #plutocracy
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@leathekd @bodhipaksa There is a group of people with political power in the #US who fought to strip healthcare insurance from tens of millions of people. They have two goals:
1) Keep rich people from having to pay taxes that support other people.
2) Keep large numbers of people miserable, so they can tell those people who are hurting that the group who want to tax millionaires & billionaires caused their pain.

#Vote effectively. Make noise.

#us #vote @Bodhipaksa @David
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@leathekd @bodhipaksa
Do any other olds on here remember when health insurance was "not for profit"? Of course it was Reagan who destroyed that and let corporations make money off sick people. Now shareholders are whining about not making enough? Universal Health Care would stop their blood sucking reign over us. FURIOUS!

"Under the Reagan Administration (1981-1989), regulations loosened across the board, and privatization of healthcare became increasingly common. Mar 27, 2020"

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@ehproque @edgeofeurope @AlexanderVI @leathekd @bodhipaksa Spain fought a rather nasty war against Communism in the 1930s. They won. You don't forget that. They had the good sense not to go all-in with Hitler, and so remained unoccupied after the war. Franco stayed too long, but his successor restored the republic. Spain has liberated itself on several occasions.

Communism is not dead. It has just changed issues and tactics. "We are all trained Marxists!" Yes they are.

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Vassil Nikolov | Васил Николов

For the record, all these discourses said or say "communism" where they should say "communist regime".

Communism is a social order that was falsely promised as the next stage after Marxist-Leninist socialism, a utopia of abundance without money and without a state as an enforcement mechanism.

A communist regime is a kind of totalitarianism.
E.g. as existed in the Soviet bloc.

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@ehproque @edgeofeurope @AlexanderVI @leathekd @bodhipaksa Don't have cable TV. But I do read the Leftist media quite a bit. And THEY don't think Communism is dead.

They have rebranded Marxism around identity and environmental issues rather than labor and class. But they still intend to create an all-powerful state to enforce their vision of fairness on the rest of us.

The rules will not apply to those who enforce the rules. They never do.

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That's awesome how you freak out about some some fringe "communist" or "marxist" crackpots on the fringes of social media with no power. While our rights are being eroded into authoritarianism by MAGA in real life right in front of you. You're totally tuned into reality. Yup. Uhhuh

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Martin Pigeon

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The lawsuit does not mention Blackrock suing but another shareholder, R. Faller (although it is a class action so Blackrock would also benefit). My quick reading is that UnitedHealth is being sued for promising similar profits rates in the future after the CEO was shot despite previous share prices being "artificially" pumped up through much worse-than-industry-average healthcare denials, which management knew. scribd.com/document/858731301/…

Faller v. UnitedHealth Group Incorporated

Plaintiff Roberto Faller has filed a class action lawsuit against UnitedHealth Group and its executives for alleged violations of federal securities laws, claiming damages due to misleading statements made during the Class Period from December 3, 202…
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Jesse McClure

This is why I don't have any healthcare coverage. None. Zero.

If I face anything I cant successfully self-diagnose and treat with over-the-counter options, I'll die.

I say I cant afford healthcare. I could, if I sold my home and lived on the street. But then I'd deal with this shit where I still wouldn't get healthcare when I needed it.

So I'll keep the little money I have, and I'll just die if I ever get really sick. The american dream.

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Martin Pigeon

@erikwesselius @leathekd @bodhipaksa Indeed, but not because it would be morally wrong but because it was misleading investors! Moral of the story: the US privatisation of healthcare is the living and permanent proof that public and accountable ownership and management of healthcare systems is the most efficient approach for public health, but also that privatisation is the most efficient at stealing public wealth for private gain. Again, don't elect corrupt politicians...
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Erik Wesselius

@Martin_Pigeon I think you are right. Thanks for the link to the court filing of the class action against UnitedHealth. It is an interesting document. Paragraph 37 seems to contain the core of the argument, and I would argue that it is critical of UnitedHealth’s strategy of denying health coverage to boost its profits.
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