Seattle cops have just activated their new 24/7 citywide AI surveillance camera network.

Cops at operations centers will be watching the video from over SIXTY HD cameras in three neighborhoods.

The cops are storing video for 30 days, or indefinably if a cop decides they want to keep it for "investigation".

Seattle residents tried to stop this dragnet, saying it will only empower Trump in our region.

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Seattle's big brother camera network is being deployed along Aurora and in two very dense deployments in the Central District (CID) and a swath of Downtown.

16 on Aurora
17 in CID
30 cameras downtown

The police have self reported the locations of sixty cameras so far on the dashboard below:

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As we said months ago when the city council voted for this dragnet spy network, there are now people whose entire day and life will be on these cameras.

Each of these near neighborhood-wide deployments cover critical services and in some cases enough essential services that a person might be on camera everytime they leave home for years on end.

#Seattle #Soap #SODA #CathyMoore #BobKettle #SaraNelson #ACB

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The constitution, 4th amendment, sound crime research and public comment didn't work, concerned Seattle citizens held a noise demo at Bob Kettle's house. City council's loudest supporter of this crap, ex-SPD cop and current neighborhood watch captain of Queen Anne.

And you know what? Bob's band of sundown town vigilantes violently attacked the protesters and I was smashed in the head for holding a fucking sign.

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So naturally Bob Kettle, city council's most excited ex-cop who wants a spy network, refused to turn over video footage of my assault directly infront of his home surveillance camera ๐Ÿฅด

I guess Bob Kettle likes his privacy more than solving crimes.

Yet here we are, spying on a few thousand old asian grannies in the CID and probably helping get them in trouble with ICE.

#ICE #CID #BobKettle #acab #sundowntown #queenanne #seattle

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A new community run tool shows the potential coverage area of SPD's new 24/7 citywide camera network.

It's far more extensive than SPD has reported.

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These cameras are quite modern.

They include a ring of HD cameras in a 360 ring. They can optionally also have an added PTZ camera with significant zoom capabilities which enabled it to track a person at distances over one mile!

The cameras come with software for everything from tracking individual people to detecting "loitering".

Oh and they also have directional mics.

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Given the terrain of Seattle and the fact that these cameras will be mounted high up and possibly in intersections, this means that one mile range could be used to peer into homes and down streets significantly further than SPD's misleading maps suggest.

At 1 mile these cameras can detect people. And at half of a mile they can pickout a basic description of clothes and peoples motions.

The detection area is significant.

Do we really want this?

#SPD #Seattle #acab #privacy #handsoff

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The reality is that whole swaths of the city are now blanketed.

In the example below they show a single camera in action.

But Seattle now has miles of these. They form a tracking grid and are networked.

The installation Seattle has just deployed is far more wide spread than even the marketers were willing to dream up.

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Of course the best answer (for a given definition of best) is to avoid the region and make it as unprofitable as practicable, while finding ways to support conventional policing and strengthen democratic institutions in other regions.

So it is therefore clearly on a completely unrelated note that I share this link to amusing printed masks of your favourite topical celebrities and politicians, (from a Chinese supplier, please do share a link to manufacturers in friendlier states, if anyone has one).

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If enough people wear masks that cover their noses and dark sunglasses to cover their eyes, that will provide cover for migrants and political fugitives to do the same so AI and facial recognition can't identify them.

Also these cameras are vulnerable to all the usual tactics including paintballs for temporary results at moderate risk. The labor to take a paintballed camera down for cleaning is the same as the labor to replace one with a rifle bullet in it. Enough paintball attacks and the camera will come down.

The headline then becomes "Seattle's big brother camera network is being DESTROYED along Aurora..."

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High powered lasers work if you want to damage cameras that belong to you.
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Could be done at long range too. But wear eye protection.

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To that I would argue that there's not enough cops for all of us and there never will be. Cops are dependent on everyone else being quiet so they can concentrate on a few dissidents at a time.

If we think back to the Hong Kong umbrella uprising: China is a vast country with immense police power and even so they had to bring in resources from all around the country to put down one city in revolt. If other cities had been engaged in sus shit at the same time they wouldn't have been able to do this.

Likewise, let's think back to the George Floyd uprising. Cops beating up protesters? Just smash some shop windows in a different part of town and suddenly they have to leave the protesters alone. Cops can't be everywhere at once.

The panopticon relies, as Bentham explained it, on us not knowing whether we are the one person under surveillance at any particular time, and therefore having to behave as if we are. But if we draw its attention, we tilt those odds for others.

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@Shivviness @BendingUnit
To answer more directly, no, I can't guarantee that Trump won't give that order. I certainly can't guarantee that some police commander isn't going to give that order themselves, in an example of "doing what the leader would want."

But at the point where the cops are doing that, the government has already fallen. It just hasn't realised it yet. At that point other tactics are more important.

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I agree with your point re the panopticon. Ultimately, the police don't have the numbers, and with some deft organisation the sensibles should prevail. But I still think MAGA are itching for an excuse to decisively put the boot down at some point, and that will mean killing people, which Trump has no qualms about.
We can't rely on the Democrats to form any form of resistance, and indeed most of them I think will actually happily collaborate with MAGA. So, it will be up to regular members of the public, which is a good thing.
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High powered lasers work if you want to damage cameras that belong to you.
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I like and agree with all of this. I would say that the point of the panopitcon (at least in Bentham's design) is not that the cop is seeing and processing everything but that at any moment they might be watching you. Even if it's a infinitesimley small chance, it's still a posibility.

So yes, they can't process all the information, but they might process yours. Chilling effect, etc.

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Step back for sure. But in good news for privacy advocates, Idaho just banned the use of any automated / passive license plate reading cameras except in Misd. / Felony investigations / Missing Persons. Specifically banned are traffic infraction (red light) cameras. Though there is still too much wiggle room to allow dragnet activities on Misd. / Felony basis (no specific crime is needed)
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When i was in high school they installed cameras to monitor the grounds. I used to make fireballs after school with a friend under one of the cameras while some other friends were making out nearby. Somehow they never cared about the fireballs until the day i did it when my friends were not making out ๐Ÿ™Š
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did you know the US has a vibrant culture of HS Shooting Clubs? A number of them even have ranges on campus. It's fascinating in that they use Air Rifles and seek to teach marksmanship and safety. The equipment is retail, and inexpensive comparatively for sports programs generally but can get real fancy and bespoke. Anyways they're at most sporting goods, don't require id to purchase

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If there's one thing I believe humans are good at doing, it's coming up with weird corner cases that were not considered before.

What if a person is homeless looking but in a kinda hipster way that indicates they might be a web frontend developer, and is loitering in a lounging sort of way?

What if a person is dressed respectably and carrying a briefcase but also a set of phillips screwdrivers and spends hours examining the camera mountings really closely?

What if a person is dressed as a clown and is handing out free uncooked pasta, and is *probably* not a drug dealer?

I don't know what your local cops are like, but every set of cops will have an umbral area where they dislike the thing you're doing but they don't have actual grounds to shut you down for it, and if you find this umbral area then they are going to be shaking with frustrated rage and unable to concentrate on anything else.

In your and my vocabulary, it's pen testing. It's "a pen tester walks into a bar and orders -1 beer" but applied to the logic of public order.

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