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Mozilla CEO made around 7 million USD last year, but hosting bills are pending. Now, they updated the ToS, and you can't watch p0rn, or your data will be sold, or they no longer care about the orignal mission, etc. Once again, we see C-suits lose their grip on reality. As long as they are getting paid in millions, software projects can go to /dev/null. It is like they want to ruin the project on purpose. There is no other explanation I can think of. Can you?

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Danny Colin

Ahah bad timing for this 😂.

FYI, Sylvestre from Mozilla replied on HN:

"Please don't read too much into this ;) We moved from self-hosted Discourse to hosted Discourse. The transfer was initiated late from the Mozilla side (my bad) and the automatic system from Discourse kicked in." (news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4…)

Please don't read too much into this ;) We moved from self-hosted Discourse to h... | Hacker News

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RejZoR

@dannycolin Ai in itself is fine. Local LLM translation in Firefox is really good and I'd take it over Google Translate any time. If Mozilla is planning on adding local LLM summary of webpages, fine. If they train it on their own systems and not on user's I'm fine with it.

Firefox is the only browser that still gives us flexibility with about:config. Don't like the Labs panel? You can turn it off. Don't like this or that? You can turn it off. They just need to fix their communication.

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✨buff dog himbo✨

@ketumbra @GoatsLive I did this in Firefox with private tabs. Is it even easier in Waterfox or other browsers??

For me part of it is that in my efforts to engage as little identifying usage information as possible with any one piece of software, I typicaly don't make full use of all available features, even ones that might be useful or convenient. I'm likely to dismiss something called "profiles" as an extraneous feature that would likely turn out to be siphoning data at astonishing rates LOL 😅

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SecoasecasMouse

@GoatsLive @itsmeholland Eso se puede hacer en Firefox, Librewolf, waterfox y otros derivados de Firefox con la extensión ”Multi-acount containers"

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Gulthaw

@itsmeholland @rice @GoatsLive I do have keepass and is great, but I'm talking about not having to do that.

If I'm browsing shit and want to go into, let's say, check my mail, I don't want to put the credentials there.
I'm already securing the computer enough that you need physical access to it, but that's why it is important to me to have a secure browser that won't do shit with my data, just letting me doing daily stuff without a hassle.

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Steven Zekowski

@GoatsLive
I’m with you wrt looking for a solid fully functional #Firefox fork that “just works” 😉 with little or no tweaking. I also can’t imagine living without multi-account containers.

From the initial replies it sounds as if #LibreWolf or #WaterFox are good choices. Anyone want to offer pros cons or comparison of those?

#firefox #librewolf #waterfox @GoatsLive
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merely rhys

It's mediocre thinkers of the sort you see embedded in the bowels of every large enterprise elevated into the stewardship of something they don't understand.

They're the sort of people locked into the orthodoxy of what others are doing — not looking for the best, simplest, or easiest routes forward but rather the *safest* routes forward — the same ones everyone else is pursuing.

They squandered Mozilla's unique position and can't fathom why they're locked into this perpetual decline.

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kzurell

Think of it as "The precession of the perihelion of marketing." Leadership inexplicably is never where the (classic) theory says it's supposed to be...

@mozillaofficial and other social/capital hybrids making big wonky loops again and again in plain sight reveal something more general that's too low-level to be seen with the naked eye...

...That our theories of value, incentive, growth, and wealth need fundamental, alienating rewriting. That's happening, though we forget today's store-brand Relativity took many decades of uncertainty, this will too.

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DistroWatch

"It is like they want to ruin the project on purpose. There is no other explanation I can think of. Can you?"

I think ruining projects is a side-effect, not the purple/goal. Management/CEOs want to wring the most short-term profit they can out of an organization while they are running it. That usually means damaging the product/reputation in the long run, but they'll be retired by the time their greed becomes a problem.

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Neil Kandalgaonkar

Firefox lost a long time ago, but had guaranteed income from the default search engine deals. They tried many things over the years to create another revenue source but failed.

I heard from a Mozilla insider that upcoming fallout from court cases (from even before the current administration) will make those default search engine deals illegal. Which is kind of a good thing but now the org is facing its end and dissolving in predictable ways

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Kevin Russell

@gooba42
Sorry for my slowness, of course.

I don't understand the many groups of decisions Mozilla has been making.

I prefer to think its group think, "oh they will accept this, its no too bad, everyone's doing it" and not malfeasance, dishonesty.

I still think appropriate coders, orgs of privacy, online rights, democracy and the intertubes 👉 hold a conference 👈 on enforcing standards, transparency and control to the user.

#mozilla #linux #rights #privacy

#privacy #linux #mozilla #rights @Urzl

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smeg

When the Mozilla Corporation was spun up and Firefox was transferred under it, the writing was on the wall: Mozilla had been captured by VC techbros whose long-term mission will be enshitification. Freemium services, acquisitions, data collection. It's the only formula for value these VC types know.

All C-levels and Board members need to be purged, Pocket and VPN and the other nonsense needs to go, and Mozilla needs to only create a browser. Only a browser.

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Hobson Lane

Only a sociopath can take millions from unpaid open source contributors and security researchers. When your wealth is derived from others' poverty it creates sociopathy in those that scramble over their fellow workers to climb to the top. Even the university tenure process trains teachers and students to exploit anyone beneath them. Survival of the greediest.
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Kevin Karhan

I think @mozillaofficial should hand over #Firefox to @torproject and let #TorBrowser become the new #upstream!

I mean, @thunderbird / #Thunderbird got taken over by it's community as well. Not shure if they have any relations beyond #Trademark and some #Hosting infra at #Mozilla...

#mozilla #firefox #thunderbird #hosting #trademark #torbrowser #upstream @The Tor Project @Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox @Mozilla
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@bobkmertz @kkarhan @0xF21D No nefarious motives. And the post isn't live on our blog yet, but the next Android Progress Report discusses some of the changes coming (back) to the account drawer, which we hope reassure our long-term K-9 Mail users like yourself. We'll post a link here once it's published, but for anyone reading this, all our Android updates live at blog.thunderbird.net/category/…

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Bob K Mertz

@thunderbird
The account drawer was the straw that broke my back but for me it's more about bloat. Before Thunderbird's involvement K-9 was one of the quickest apps on my phone and it just did it's job. I don't need my mobile to sync with my laptop because that's exactly what IMAP is for. If I need something powerful I'll go to my laptop but on mobile I just want it to be quick and painless. Nothing wrong with forking K-9 and creating Thunderbird for Android on top of K-9 for those that want extra features but the majority that were using K-9 were doing so *because* of it's simplicity. Telling us K-9 would continue to exist and then essentially just building Thunderbird and releasing a "branded" version was the wrong thing to do. I miss when K-9 ran on old and under-powered phones - it no longer does that.

Maybe you don't have a nefarious motive but forcing features onto people who don't want them isn't a good look... And is kinda exactly what Mozilla is self destructing over.
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Bill Zaumen

Yesterday, I tried to help a friend by looking up a kitchen appliance on the Sur La Table web site to see if they carried the product. A few minutes later, I got some spam from some nonentity calling itself surlatable@safeopt.com thanking me for "checking us out." I had not logged in and Firefox was configure to delete cookies when it closes.

I put both on my shit list: what would you do if visited a store and they had someone follow you home and put trash in your mailbox?

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