Ahah bad timing for this 😂.

FYI, Sylvestre from Mozilla replied on HN:

"Please don't read too much into this ;) We moved from self-hosted Discourse to hosted Discourse. The transfer was initiated late from the Mozilla side (my bad) and the automatic system from Discourse kicked in." (news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4…)

It's mediocre thinkers of the sort you see embedded in the bowels of every large enterprise elevated into the stewardship of something they don't understand.

They're the sort of people locked into the orthodoxy of what others are doing — not looking for the best, simplest, or easiest routes forward but rather the *safest* routes forward — the same ones everyone else is pursuing.

They squandered Mozilla's unique position and can't fathom why they're locked into this perpetual decline.

Greed and Trump.

As Trump is now in power, all these large corporations will feel empowered to be more pro money, pro selling data, pro fucking users data, pro I don't give a damn as I won't be investigated.

Browsers and search companies will ALWAYS find a way to sell data - openly or avertly. Cookies, now fingering, next will be fisting.

Think of it as "The precession of the perihelion of marketing." Leadership inexplicably is never where the (classic) theory says it's supposed to be...

@mozillaofficial and other social/capital hybrids making big wonky loops again and again in plain sight reveal something more general that's too low-level to be seen with the naked eye...

...That our theories of value, incentive, growth, and wealth need fundamental, alienating rewriting. That's happening, though we forget today's store-brand Relativity took many decades of uncertainty, this will too.

"It is like they want to ruin the project on purpose. There is no other explanation I can think of. Can you?"

I think ruining projects is a side-effect, not the purple/goal. Management/CEOs want to wring the most short-term profit they can out of an organization while they are running it. That usually means damaging the product/reputation in the long run, but they'll be retired by the time their greed becomes a problem.

Firefox lost a long time ago, but had guaranteed income from the default search engine deals. They tried many things over the years to create another revenue source but failed.

I heard from a Mozilla insider that upcoming fallout from court cases (from even before the current administration) will make those default search engine deals illegal. Which is kind of a good thing but now the org is facing its end and dissolving in predictable ways

> you can't watch p0rn,

And how is that TOS enforced?

Quite absurd how a CEO can broker a deal, working for an organization like Mozilla in this manner

#CEO #Mozilla #Firefox #Thunder #Thunderbird

When the Mozilla Corporation was spun up and Firefox was transferred under it, the writing was on the wall: Mozilla had been captured by VC techbros whose long-term mission will be enshitification. Freemium services, acquisitions, data collection. It's the only formula for value these VC types know.

All C-levels and Board members need to be purged, Pocket and VPN and the other nonsense needs to go, and Mozilla needs to only create a browser. Only a browser.

I think @mozillaofficial should hand over #Firefox to @torproject and let #TorBrowser become the new #upstream!

I mean, @thunderbird / #Thunderbird got taken over by it's community as well. Not shure if they have any relations beyond #Trademark and some #Hosting infra at #Mozilla...