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Denmark has donated 19 of the F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, and now Trump has ordered an end to US support for their onboard jamming equipment, thereby helping Putin destroy this USD 291,000,000 donation.

This US administration is our enemy, and the sooner our politicians realize that, the safer we are.

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The US is ending support for Ukrainian F-16s, but there is a way out

US President Donald Trump's team has ordered the termination of vital support for F-16 fighter jet jamming equipment that Ukraine has.
Viktoria Lytovchenko (online.ua)

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Randahl Fink

@BobHorowitz I find much joy in the fact that breaking an alliance only works once, and when the 50 allies have finally replaced everything American, Trump will have zero power, and Ukraine will be given zero limits to their attacks on Russia.

The Biden escalation management days are gone.

@Bob Horowitz
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The Animal and the Machine

@BobHorowitz
NATO is effectively dead today but not actually, more like in a deep sleep. Everyone but the US would step in so for now itโ€™s alive, but without the US it lacks punch.

The next president could restore the pledge but what is dead is the US focus of NATO. The soft power of the US. European software companies will grow as lower ethical standard US companies will face EU regulation. Etc.

The US earned this position in Europe in WWII and smartly kept this lead. The circumstances to create it cannot be repeated. Trump cannot have our cake to threaten to eat and actually eat it.

What is definitely dead is the divide and rule of Europe by anybody.

@Bob Horowitz

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Silkester

@taatm @BobHorowitz
Can we acknowledge what it took to defeat Germany โ€” only one of EU countries? Germany came frightfully close to the atomic bomb before the US snatched von Braun et al.

All of Europe provides excellency in research and engineering.
France made the first supersonic passenger plane.
As far as I know Zeiss is unmatched anywhere in laser optics for high end chips.
Finland has impressive capabilities.

Europe not only can match what the US has, Europe can exceed the US.

@Bob Horowitz @The Animal and the Machine

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Silkester

@taatm @BobHorowitz
Much of the "ahead" is based on a myth. Apparently US famously failed to protect their aircraft carriers in NATO exercises from EU U-boats. How long do you think US fighter jets last if their landing spot sunk to the bottom of the ocean.

The US army is scattered around the world and the US can't just redeploy them without huge gaps in their own defense.

Having more hardware is not the whole story.

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lord pthenq1

"@BobHorowitz Me alegra mucho el hecho de que romper una alianza solo funciona una vez, y cuando los 50 aliados finalmente hayan reemplazado todo lo estadounidense, Trump no tendrรก ningรบn poder y Ucrania no tendrรก ningรบn lรญmite para sus ataques contra Rusia.

Los dรญas de gestiรณn de la escalada de Biden han quedado atrรกs."

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Bob LeFridge

Related.

As part of the AUKUS agreement with the US & the UK, Australia has signed up to buy nuclear-powered AUKUS subs. The cost is "up to $368bn" and delivery is a long-term thing.

But Australia may never receive its subs because US production is down and America will almost certainly keep them for themselves.

theguardian.com/world/2025/marโ€ฆ

@randahl

#AUKUS

Surface tension: could the promised Aukus nuclear submarines simply never be handed over to Australia?

The multi-billion dollar deal was heralded as ensuring the security of the Indo-Pacific. But with America an increasingly unreliable ally, doubts are rising above the waves
Ben Doherty (The Guardian)
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Parade du Grotesque ๐Ÿ’€

@Carbs @BobLefridge
Regarding AUKUSA, I have said it before, and I will say it again: Australia will get nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

They could have had some of the finest submarines in the world. They won't get anything because every single sub produced in Europe will now stay in Europe.

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Bob LeFridge

Maybe there won't be any submarines for the land downunder. Trumpโ€™s #3 in the Department of Defense is an AUKUS skeptic. Elbridge Colby says selling submarines to Australia would be โ€˜crazyโ€™.

It's like America has suddenly gone onto a war footing.

theguardian.com/world/2025/marโ€ฆ

@Carbs @ParadeGrotesque @randahl

Trump pick for Pentagon says selling submarines to Australia would be โ€˜crazyโ€™ if Taiwan tensions flare

Nominee for undersecretary for defense policy says Aukus deal to deliver Virginia class submarines could leave US sailors โ€˜vulnerableโ€™
Ben Doherty (The Guardian)
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ridicol ๐Ÿ‰๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ’š

@BobLefridge the AUKUS "deal" is the biggest scam our politicians (Morrison) led us into.

Australia has already made its first payments to the US: AUD 800M

For??????

For subs that we MIGHT (or not) receive in 40 years and it'll be obsolete technology.

This is the dumbest "deal" ever.
Oh wait, it's actually a great deal for the US and for Morrison that has now went to work in the US for a company with AUKUS ties.

#WakeUpAustralia

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Isaac Ji Kuo

@BobLefridge The irony is that everyone will want to buy Ukrainian in the not so distant future.

This war will end, but Ukraine's defense industry will not. Ukrainian arms sales will fund the rebuilding, and Ukraine will become the 21st century's arsenal of freedom.

The USA defense industry? Any bright young engineers will be looking to move to Ukraine or other European countries.

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Alfred J. Kwak (audiokontor) โ˜•

@martinvermeer US support means that the Radar jammers on F16s need to be adjusted every time the Russians adjust frequencies to identify F16s. it's the usual back and forth. under Biden a dedicated team was built to take care of the matter. this team has been slashed. from now on Radar jamming will work fine until the Russians change frequencies again.
Luckily enough the French have improved jamming on their Mirage Jets and for sure Mirages will do the F16s jobs very soon.
@Martin Vermeer FCD

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Werner

@mc @martinvermeer
What this also means: US weaponry doesn't gets the latest necessary updates, either.

Certainly US military could collect data through the US weaponry used by the Ukrainians and improve their own systems.

And I'm sure that the Ukrainians shared all their collected data about Russian tech (and shared captured equipment) with the US, why should they continue that?

@Martin Vermeer FCD @Alfred J. Kwak (audiokontor) โ˜•

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J$

@alikatze That wouldnโ€™t warp is back in time; quite the contrary, it would remove the Necrosoft death knell on innovation. Finally counter the โ€œembrace, extend, extinguishโ€ subversion.

Getting rid of Necrosoft would rapidly propel the EU beyond the current IT wasteland, and light a big fire under the EU IT ecosystem.

Should have done it decades ago. We didnโ€™t, but thereโ€™s no day like today to make the leap forward.

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zetabeta

short:
if e.u. increases military spending, 0 dollars should go to u.s. made weapons or military technology.

e.u. needs nucular strategy, which includes offensive weapons. emphasizing defensive weapons.

"le terrible" looks cool !
france24.com/en/europe/2025030โ€ฆ

As faith in the US wavers, can Franceโ€™s nuclear umbrella deter Russia?

A pillar of French sovereignty and source of national pride, Franceโ€™s nuclear deterrent has long served as a symbol of the countryโ€™s independence from Washington.
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Just Tom...

- I have wondered recently whether, since the modern generations of fast jets are fly by wire (and are often inherently aerodynamically unstable without) whether somewhere in those - was it 8 million lines of code that make the latest generations fly - there isn't a back door allowing the US to "Brick" the aircraft should they wish (as John Deere can do with their agricultural equipment).
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JZehcuob

@ParadeGrotesque at around 70 millions โ‚ฌ each, that won't happen. The French military needs at least 20 more to be fully functional, they don't have enough, but that could change with the new investments. From what I read, they will give more Mirage 2000, they still have 20 of them in the Armรฉe de l'air. This is still a very capable plane and they upgraded the avionics for Ukraine.
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lord pthenq1

"Dinamarca ha donado 19 aviones de combate F-16 a Ucrania, y ahora Trump ha ordenado que Estados Unidos ponga fin al apoyo a sus equipos de interferencia a bordo, ayudando asรญ a Putin a destruir esta donaciรณn de 291.000.000 de dรณlares.

Esta administraciรณn estadounidense es nuestro enemigo, y cuanto antes se den cuenta nuestros polรญticos, mรกs seguros estaremos.

news.online.ua/es/eeuu-esta-poโ€ฆ"

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@Anders
If we take this line of reasoning to the extreme, the US would withdraw from NATO and attack us along with the Russians, with or without nukes, from the front or the back.
I believe that they would withdraw their troops from Europe beforehand so that they would not be caught up in direct combat.
All this is pure speculation.
Europe urgently needs to arm itself!
NON US weapons
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Stephen Elliott~Buckley

Is the only reason that the majority of #Americans don't see that #BigHands is obviously a #Russian asset, is because they don't want to feel really bad and stupid about voting for him even though the evidence has been pretty obvious for a really long time.

And even if there weren't any evidence going back so many years, everything he's doing right now is in #Putin's advantage. Weakening the Canadian and American economy. Ruining the #dollar. #nato

#Putin #russian #americans #nato #dollar #bighands

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@gimulnautti @martenbjorklund
USA verkar stoppa Gripen frรฅn att vara med i utvalet av nya plan i Colombia just pรฅ denna grund, yes.

Plus att USA nu stoppar funktioner i F-16s radarsystem. Materiell frรฅn USA visar sig inte vara att lite pรฅ nu nรคr USA valt en Putin-รคlskare till president.

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Phil Thane โœ…

I think it's time the EU sponsored hacking groups to jail-break US-made products, including military hardware. And disseminate their research to European manufacturers who can produce alternative soft/firmware.
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Edde Beket

@Anders @taatm @BobHorowitz
The Netherlands have always been very pro American, too much so maybe when it came to nukes in the 80s. Very thankful for the US effort in WWII and even before that: we were the first nation in the world to acknowledge the US as an independent nation. We even import more from the US than we export to it (makes Trump happy). A very, very old friendship and even though we're a small country, we always added a pro American sound to EU contemplations/decisions.
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kim wulff

@Anders @taatm @BobHorowitz Yes you are absolutely right, BUT still the people who elected this despot are the same whether he or his vassal is elected again, and #bighands is not just a name now, he is a movement, and movements take far longer to disappear (and are far more dangerous) if they do, than a personage does
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Hugh Ferguson

@Greengordon it may still be. We just got a new PM as of...1.5 hours ago. Expect a Canadian election soon, and depending on the outcome, that may just happen. Maybe we should start buying Mirage jets from France, or British Harrier jets, or the Swedish jets (I want to say SaaB but that feels wrong) ....they are better at keeping their word than the US....but that's not saying much
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