@GLaDTheresCake
None of what you just said contradicted what I said. However, I take issue with the following:

> they should be allowed to live a nomadic lifestyle in safety and peace *and with the means to do so*

What do you mean by that? If they made ends meet by day trading, but that has gone out of fashion, is your claim that they are being discriminated against? Not because of who they are, but because they want to do something that is no longer in demand? That's not discrimination, that's the world moving on and people refusing to move with it. And while that refusal may cause their lifestyle to be unsustainable, I don't see that as a reason to force companies to hire day traders again nor to somehow subsidize Romani who can no longer make their preferred lifestyle work.

By the same argument, is it really genocide (which is an incredibly aggressive word) that someone cannot make horse shoes, because the market isn't there for it anymore?

@GLaDTheresCake I'm sorry, I just don't understand your point... I'm suggesting if they don't assault, steal, beg and vandalize maybe people won't mind them so much. You say they cannot follow their culture and that's genocide.

So... What? What do we do to enable Romani people to live how they want, and not have everyone around them be absolutely terrorised by them?

@dokterjob @GLaDTheresCake my points are distinctly about multiple instances of Romani camps close to where I live and the issues they have caused.

Also, I never said they shouldn't have human rights, not even a little bit.

@Gjoel
Can't you see that HUMAN RIGHTS have nothing to do with that? Everybody has human rights, no matter what. If you think that's different based on which group someone belongs to, yes, that's very racist.

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@Gjoel

Yes, you are implying exactly that if your reaction to the original toot about human rights is about things that have nothing to do with human rights.

"maybe there's a reason these people are disliked" is blatantly racist, don't you see that?

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@dasgrueneblatt I am literally reacting to the last sentence of the toot.

Look, I hear about Romani people two ways, and ONLY two ways. One is (or was, before COVID, then something changed) every summer, when people had their baby strollers stolen, children got attacked, people were begging and nature got littered with junk. All this, every year, in the community I live in.

The other way is stuff like this about how people seem to hate them for no reason.

I really don't think this is racism, it's super bad marketing on their part. I still don't hate Romani for being Romani, which was the very first thing I stated. I do have a strong dislike to the bastards who are ruining the reputation for the rest of them though.

@Gjoel

Come on, people shouldn't have to do "marketing" for themselves. Or is it just the majority population that doesn't have to? Hm, what could be the difference here?

And now we're getting to the "but" as in "There are some good ones in the group, but..." part?

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