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Josef Davies-Coates

9 months ago

Josef Davies-Coates
9 months ago

If you're looking to switch away from fascist enabling unaccountable tech giants these directories are all pretty good in their own way:

1. switching.software/
2. privacyguides.org/
3. alternativeto.net/
4. ethical.net/resources/
5. selfh.st/apps/
6. european-alternatives.eu/
7. prism-break.org/en/

There is also e.g. this nice bit of guidance too optoutproject.net/the-cyber-cl…

The Cyber-Cleanse: Take Back Your Digital Footprint

New Year, New Digital You! New Years are an opportunity for committing to resolutions, starting new habits, discarding what no…

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Rainer Zufall

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If you're specifically looking for European companies/products, this might be interesting as well
european-alternatives.eu/

Homepage | European Alternatives

We help you find European alternatives for digital service and products, like cloud services and SaaS products.

^{European Alternatives}

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@rainerzufall_le funnily enough I just came here to edit my post to add that one too! 🙂

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guisso

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prism-break.org/en

Opt out of global data surveillance programs like PRISM, XKeyscore, and Tempora - PRISM Break - PRISM Break

Opt out of global data surveillance programs like PRISM, XKeyscore and Tempora. Help make mass surveillance of entire populations uneconomical! We all have a right to privacy, which you can exercise today by encrypting your communications and ending …

^{prism-break.org}

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@guisso added, thanks

@guisso

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@luciedigitalni yeah, I've read about that, but I don't control what domain other people use and some useful services and directory still use that TLD 🤷 should we make perfect the enemy of the good? Not sure we should TBH

@lucie digitální

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Josef Davies-Coates

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yeah thanks, I've got a lot of apps from there and run /e/OS @e_mydata @murena on my phone 🙂

@/e/OS - deGoogled mobile OS @Murena - choose freedom!

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@luciedigitalni but I've just been pointed at privacyguides.org/ so I've replaced it with that community effort (with a more ethical domain)

Home

A socially motivated website which provides information about protecting your online data privacy and security.

^{Privacy Guides}

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@luciedigitalni that's a totally valid viewpoint to have, of course (and you don't need me to tell you that either!). But I'm a little more forgiving. It was very widely used by lots of people before anyone really knew about the issues.

@lucie digitální

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@luciedigitalni no need for apologies 🙂

Whilst the issues have already been there it was quite late in the day that they became more widely know (and I'd bet the vast majority of people are still living in ignorance about it).

@lucie digitální

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Josef Davies-Coates

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it simply isn't widely known, even now. It's an unknown unknown for most people. Not something they'd even think about potentially needing to do due diligence on.

Besides aren't you meant to be "learning to be more tolerant and empathetic. " 🙂 😉 teehee

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Jackie 🍉🏳️‍⚧️☭

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debian.org

Debian -- The Universal Operating System

Debian is an operating system and a distribution of Free Software. It is maintained and updated through the work of many users who volunteer their time and effort.

^{www.debian.org}

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chef 😎

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Excellent collection 👍🏼

My project to get away from all these terrible companies is going great. Already got rid of lots of google stuff, deleted everything Meta, installed various apps via fdroid and more.

Not used amazon in years, never been on X.

It is actually a lot easier than I thought. 🤷🏼☺️

What I don't seem to be able to find is an antivirus app...

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@ruedi just stop using Windows? I've been running Linux for decades (Ubuntu since it's existed, and other distributions before that) and have never had any antivirus apps now had any issues with viruses.

@chef 😎

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(roll m3tti)

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i've never understood the centralization of services and the internet. This was never intended! Host on your own or use local providers. Most obviously your clients or service users are in the same country like yours. You can even use diffrent systems and domains for other countries. When did that happen that we use one domain and large scale systems only.

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Josef Davies-Coates

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yeah, I use an amazing piece of source available software called @cloudron to self host loads of open source web apps. Cloudron is imho the best of it's type but see also all the other options I and others listed here forum.cloudron.io/topic/10000/…

A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors

We all love Cloudron because it Just Works and automates/ takes care of so much. As a bit of market research for Cloudron and as a list of other interesting ...

^{Cloudron Forum}

@cloudron

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Vronimus Geisterschloss

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📌

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datendefekt

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It's good that there are already many alternatives for software and online services.
But what worries me is that we are far away from smartphone alternatives to Android and Apple.

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Josef Davies-Coates

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you can get degoogled versions of Android. I run @e_mydata @murena on my phone e.foundation/e-os/ 😊

/e/OS - e Foundation - deGoogled unGoogled smartphone operating systems and online services - your data is your data

ECOSYSTEMKEY FEATURESGET /E/OSNEED HELP /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled”, mobile ecosystem /e/OS is an open-source mobile operating system paired with carefully selected applications.

^e.foundation

@/e/OS - deGoogled mobile OS @Murena - choose freedom!

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helen varley jamieson

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i am also using /e/ on a fairphone (fairphone.com/)
and very happy! 😃

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@helenvarley @e_mydata @murena @datendefekt nice. I've just got a Teracube myself, which doesn't have as good supply chain but does have a good long warranty, a great repair/ replacement service, and a replaceable battery, which is better than most these days 😀

@/e/OS - deGoogled mobile OS @Murena - choose freedom! @datendefekt @helen varley jamieson

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datendefekt

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@helenvarley @e_mydata @murena Third-party degoogled ROM are a good stopgap, but Android is not fully open source. It's still dependent on Google for development and on the phone vendors for hardware drivers.

A true alternative would need to be a separate operating system, and at best separate hardware.

@/e/OS - deGoogled mobile OS @Murena - choose freedom! @helen varley jamieson

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@datendefekt @helenvarley @e_mydata @murena back in the day I had Linux powered Nokia with built in keyboard, that was fun. I guess pine64.org/devices/pinephone/ is pretty cool similar thing these days

PinePhone

An Open Source Smartphone Supported by All Major Linux Phone Projects The PinePhone is a smartphone that empowers users with control over the device.

^PINE64

@/e/OS - deGoogled mobile OS @Murena - choose freedom! @datendefekt @helen varley jamieson

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Open Risk

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the thing is, you are preaching to the converted.

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@openrisk I didn't only post this on here 😉 but even if I had lots of people here still don't know about nor use lots of other alternatives. But yeah, it's had way more engagement here than most other places.

@Open Risk

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Boriel

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Another alternative to GoogleMaps / Apple Maps, offline and libre (I haven´t tested it yet)
organicmaps.app/es/

Organic Maps: senderismo, ciclismo y GPS sin conexión

Mapas rápidos y detallados sin conexión para viajantes, turistas, conductores, senderistas y ciclistas creados por los fundadores de MapsWithMe (Maps.Me).

^{organicmaps.app}

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@boriel I've tried that a bit, not bad in some instances. See also magicearth.com/

Magic Earth: Free Maps & Navigation App

Magic Earth is a free maps and navigation app based on OpenStreetMap data. Enjoy 3D maps, Satellite maps, Turn-by-turn navigation, HD Traffic, Offline maps

^{Magic Earth}

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Boriel

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Interesting! Thanks, will have a look.

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🏳️‍🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️‍🌈

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ethical dot net showing brave is ugh a huge red flag

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@luana what specifically do you most dislike about Brave? All the crypto stuff? or something else? Never used it myself. But I'd suggest feeding back to them instead of me 🙂 e.g. via community.ethical.net/t/sugges…

Suggestions for our Ethical Resources directory

Hola! Please help us improve our Ethical Resources directory. Submit below a link to an ethical resources plus your reasons for considering it this way (open source / no tracking / independent etc). Thanks!

^ethical.net

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Ross 🏳️‍🌈🏴

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Don't forget the cyber cleanse from @cyberlyra optoutproject.net/the-cyber-cl…

The Cyber-Cleanse: Take Back Your Digital Footprint

New Year, New Digital You! New Years are an opportunity for committing to resolutions, starting new habits, discarding what no…

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Josef Davies-Coates

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@MightyRedPanda @cyberlyra that's a nice blog series to be sure, but it's not a directory of alternatives in the same way. I also liked this related by different article from a while ago gizmodo.com/life-without-the-t…

Life Without the Tech Giants

Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple collectively make products that we love, products that we hate (but can’t stop using), and products that

^{Kashmir Hill (Gizmodo)}

@Cyberlyra @Ross 🏳️‍🌈🏴

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