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Do not forget the people, companies, and organizations that abandoned their morals during these dark years.
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Microsoft is quietly walking back its diversity efforts

Microsoft has dropped its diversity and inclusion report
Tom Warren (The Verge)
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kat

I don't think people realize how ingrained in everything the DEI efforts were inside Microsoft.

The entire time I was there, anyone Senior+ had to put their DEI tasks and goals into their semi-yearly evaluations, and for the most part you just could not get promoted without your DEI component in place. Even sub-Senior folks were at least somewhat expected to put some effort towards this stuff, if not leadership.

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kat

@liquor_american tbh I spoke with a lot of folks internally, including folks in positions of power, who were extremely onboard with this, and who imo were true believers in gating career progress on helping folks around you in this way. That said, there's plenty of folks who were not into it and just kept quiet because they knew what was good for them, and they're probably enjoying themselves a lot right now. This whole change is definitely coming from the top, just like the DEI thing before was very much coming from the top down.
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kat

@leeloo as @Ashedryden says. It's tremendously naΓ―ve to think that a system that has consistently exhibited the same kind of shit we repeatedly see is somehow "unbiased". FOSS, from its origin, has made an explicit choice to sideline work that needs to be done intentionally and constantly, and even uplifted, celebrated, and lionized everything from murderers to sex pests all for the sake of "unbiased" code. The entire framing of FOSS as somehow disconnected from morality and ethics, made even worse by the "open source" movement that went even further and stripped it of even its shielding against Capitalist abuse, is hostile to marginalized people, hostile to the women, hostile to literally anyone except cis men or folks who are able to survive in such an environment even when it wants them to sink. I have probably things to say that I will not say in public about the role of trans women (such as myself), for example, in this system. @nev
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Leeloo

@zkat @nev
It's not a system, it's an idea.

Painting a so-called community, where individuals could get into a fight over which editor is better or which kind of whitespace to use as being of one mind on any question brings you closer to the conservatives who claim that women prefer a certain type of man without acknowledging that women are individuals who like different things than it does to any movement for equality.

Yes, there are horrible individuals in F/OSS. Are there too many? Of course, any number greater than zero is too many. But there is no membership, no leader who can kick them out or tell them how to act. Because you can't kick people out of an idea.

There are leaders of individual projects, but they are just as separate from other projects as individual people sre separate.

F/OSS developers can't even agree on which license is the most F/OSS, and the term F/OSS itself is the result of two major groups disagreeing on main points.

There is no hivemind. Just a bunch of individuals and projects.

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Marcella Francesca

Yup, Nuked Office back to the to the hole it came from. Also planning to ditch Windows 11 since they broke my perception of security by building in AI. Unfortunately not all drivers of my newishish laptop are available yet but, when it does, Goodbye Micro$oft, hello Linux. I wont be a part of their profits anymore. Done with the hypocrisy.
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Mudlark

what are you talking about :afloofLoad: please point to the period of time that Microsoft /the company/ had morals and at what point you think it abandoned them.

Words matter, Microsoft is a company. A company cannot have morals. Its entire goal has been to maximise its profits, for the entire lifetime of the company. It may have enacted some policies for hiring or manufacturing that were ethically better in the past, but every time has been in service of greater profitability, nothing else.

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Jargoggles

There is a *lot* that we should have done after WWII - dissolving or nationalizing every company that gave material support to the Nazis is one of them.

We need to learn from our failure to go anywhere near far enough to root out fascism when we had the opportunity.

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