An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

I took a screenshot from clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

in reply to Elena Rossini

I'm well aware that posting this info on the Fediverse seems like a pointless exercise, but it's to raise awareness and spread the word to people active in BOTH places.

I was never really active on #Bluesky and entirely stopped using it months ago but there's no point in posting this info there because I have zero reach. Or rather: 1100+ followers and 1-2 likes (at best!) and zero comments for any post. It's like I'm shadow-banned.

If you use it and enjoy it no judgement but please be safe!

in reply to hyperreal

@hyperreal Blocking the bridge isn't going to stop links from working because links just work whether the bridge exists or not. Bridgy Fed just makes it so you have one account on, say Mastodon, and it duplicates your posts to Bsky. But links from there to here will work because links are just links.

To illustrate, blocking the bridge to prevent linking to a Mastodon is like blocking Google Maps and thinking that will prevent the postal service from finding your home address.

in reply to Elena Rossini

There are many more companies, institutions, news outlets, YouTubers etc. there then here. For example, several EU institutions and politicians are pretty active there. So, I have a few lists and use it as sort of a reader to check the latest news and other information once or twice a day. Mastodon is where I follow and interact with real people, which is what I really enjoy here.
in reply to Vladimir Campos

@vladcampos This. And a lot of independent media/journalists, scientists, climate scientists especially, NGOs. Doing Social Media professionally, I am obliged to have an account there for reading their news.
Many left Mastodon after a test phase reporting they had bad experiences with people telling them on the very first day how they have to behave or write their posts.
I like the Fediverse like you, it's my centre. But for reaching masses (important for activists), it's too niche.

@_elena

in reply to Petra van Cronenburg

@NatureMC That “telling how to behave" is so true. It happened to me the very first time I tried Mastodon. All I did was post a picture of myself to illustrate something I wanted to mention about a run, and I was told it should be set as “content warning". It was a very basic picture, but because it was a selfie, I "should set it as content warning." Why? It was a very unwelcoming experience.

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in reply to Petra van Cronenburg

@NatureMC Hi, I just wanted clarification on what you meant or were saying in this post mastodon.online/@NatureMC/1159…

which said

"You're not alone! At the moment, a newcomer is lost in technics, some hardliners play police instead of saying welcome, let them land, and just say: if you need help or want to understand why ... just ask me."

Thanks


@vladcampos You're not alone! At the moment, a newcomer is lost in technics, some hardliners play police instead of saying welcome, let them land, and just say: if you need help or want to understand why ... just ask me.

@_elena

in reply to Elena Rossini

The very same applies to the Fediverse, by the way: When blocking someone, that information is relayed to the instance where the blocked account is hosted. While this is not typically publicly visible, malicious instances know who blocked some of their members and can of course use that information.

(We internally used the amount of blocks as a hint to which local account to investigate, but it‘s at present not worth the hassle.)

in reply to Elena Rossini

Agreed. Bsky is a much less interactive experience than here on Mastodon/Fediverse. I follow a couple of authors, a few sports sites, and check general news there. But yeah, it's mostly a "read only" environment if you aren't "somebody." I will note that those two authors do read and respond to replies.

I mostly consider Bluesky an "eMuskulated" Twitter and it seems to be replacing Twitter as a place mass media and "somebodies" go to post expecting that everyone is reading along.

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Ulrike Hahn

in reply to stux⚡️

@stux
People would be genuinely surprised how easy that is to trace things back to them even with the "pseudonymized data". Sure it doesn't contain your name, but it still details (for example)

- Age range
- Rough location
- Interests
- Known associations

Guess how trivial it becomes to correlate that back to an individual? Age range and rough location are known data-points for governments (census) soooo, yeah. Easy-peasy unfortunately :blobcatsad:

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Petra van Cronenburg

@nazokiyoubinbou Just a note for the Fediverse = paradise adepts: I'm regularly blocking and if possible reporting Maga propaganda even on Mastodon. You can get evil people *everywhere*.
The question is how much you can protect yourself or if such attempts are defederated or suspended.
Here, the Fediverse is better because human moderators. But most people don't know that difference. And would Mastodon be prepared if the ICE opens an account?

@u_urban @_elena

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in reply to u_urban

@u_urban Great to hear. And then it would be easy to move to such an instance to be free of them.
BTW, the moderators here do a hard and great job, especially when we have a wave of propaganda-fake-accounts. You can nearly watch real time how these fakes at last hide on tiny unmoderated instances before they are gone.
People outside often don't know that our moderation is still hand-made.

@nazokiyoubinbou @_elena

in reply to Elena Rossini

@corbden

I am fully aware of the block vs. mute functionality, and I have blocked them not just for my own convenience reading, but to raise a significant barrier to harassment and protect the people with whom I speak also.

In fact, I subscribe to eva.computer's blocklist for all federal accounts (other than NOAA, NWS, CPSC, and the Federal Reserve) along with thousands of other people, which handled it automatically.

Blocking protects your friends, not just your eyes.

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Marianne

@nazokiyoubinbou @u_urban some of the reasons aren't silly. There are simply blocks to a lot of people joining. Understanding a bit about what it even is, finding an instance, knowing you can't move your post history etc.
Instances randomly being shut down recently have also amplified the bad/hard to use name.
Sure it doesn't ultimately matter. But those are real issues for a lot of people, just because they aren't for you doesn't mean they're not there.