Stepping down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors
We are Tommi and Fraxinas, Framework Linux Community Ambassadors since September 2024.
We apprehensively followed the developments and the debate concerning Framework’s endorsement and support of Omarchy. We have no direct experience with this Linux distribution, its community, nor with the political environment around it. We did not speak up before now because learning about all of it and keeping up with all the commentary would have been a full-time job. Unfortunately we do not have the time to read every single comment on the dedicated forum thread.
Despite our admittedly limited and superficial understanding of this matter, we believe we have witnessed and read enough to make an informed decision and take a clear position.
The statements from Framework and from Nirav Patel (its CEO) made it very clear for us that Framework is not a company we feel represented by any more, and surely not a company that we want to represent as Ambassadors.
To be frank, it is not even necessary to dive into the petty drama about the recent events in order to provide an explanation of our decision. We are deeply disappointed by a company that is self-proclaimed as the resistance of the tech industry, the good David that intends to stand against the big tech Goliaths that are devouring it. Framework’s behaviour brought to surface an embarrassing and absurd inability to take an explicitly political position, blinded by the Western patriarchal narrative that technology in itself is not political. By trying to keep everyone happy (or at least not to make anyone mad) inside a fictitious “big tent”, the company proved to be no better than any of its Silicon Valley peers, dismissing comments about DHH, and comments about fascism and racism as not strictly related to the main mission.
We were proud to be ambassadors because we believed that Framework not only made products that empowered those who purchase them to fully own and repair their devices, but most importantly because we wrongly expected that this would imply changing the paradigm and the narrative about tech companies altogether.
We were offered the possibility of having a 1:1 conversation with Nirav Patel. We did not take it, because it is self-evident that our opinions are in contrast with the statements that he already made. Too bad, Framework is going to lose much more business than it would have if it simply acknowledged a mistake, took a deep inward look, and questioned its own values and stance.
In a world that is burning, thorn by conflict and greed, it is not enough to be “less evil”, to be radical only in some cases, and be moderate in others. We wanted to be ambassadors of a company that does not see fascism and proprietary software as two distant topics, but that recognised the entanglement of politics and technology, of capitalism and authoritarianism. It seems that this is not the case.
Farewell, Framework. We will miss the shining brave idea we had of you.
The following statement was cross-posted on Framework’s Community Forum.
#Framework #politicalTechnology #SiliconValley #CalifornianIdeology
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in reply to Tommi 🤯 • • •thanks for this very clear breakdown. It's the best one Ive seen so far.
It is too bad, as they seemed like the best players in the space we had.
Question remains for me then... Where to now? What hardware company embodies what framework did, without the dark side?
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in reply to Mike • • •@codemonkeymike if we could only fork @frameworkcomputer as it regularly happens with OpenSource projects when there's a need for it 🤷😥
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in reply to Tommi 🤯 • • •To make this hard choice, I found it enlightening and decisive to read The Californian Ideology (1995) by Richard Barbrook and Andy Cameron.
(Open Access PDF)
The Californian Ideology - Wikipedia
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in reply to Tommi 🤯 • • •Hope you find sucess on all your endeavours, helping the world become a better place.
Elias Mårtenson
in reply to Tommi 🤯 • • •They literally lost at least one customer because of this. I was about to get one of their laptops in the next couple of months, but I will not do so now.
Perhaps my business is not worth it to them. But at least I feel I'm doing the right thing by refusing to give them my business.
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in reply to Elias Mårtenson • • •I had a similar dilemma last year when I was in the market for a new laptop, and many of the 'cool companies' were fairly obviously 'drinking the tech-bro cool-aid'.
Finally went with Tuxedo, who I believe are in Germany. Lovely machine, and fast af by my standards (I'm not a gamer!). It came with their own Linux distro out-of-box, which is fine, which I then replaced with my beloved Garuda.
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(Edited to correct that they are in Germany, not Austria)
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in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops • • •@ifixcoinops I don’t think I possess the social media literacy to tease enough context from this thread to make sense of it.
It caught my attention because omarchy looked interesting enough to make my “try this someday maybe” list, and it was wild to learn that 37 Signals even still existed.
rat (determined empirically)
in reply to Growlph Ibex • • •@growlph
Framework was promoting a Linux distro by a guy who is very vocally bigoted. When asked, Framework doubled down on supporting this guy for absolutely no reason. Lots of the people this guy (and by extension, Framework) hate are now dropping the brand.
Framework has tripled down on their support.
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in reply to Growlph Ibex • • •@growlph @rolenthedeep That's actually the most maddening part about this for me. We're talking about what amounts to a personalized customization of an existing Linux distro, namely Arch.
There's nothing technologically interesting about this project at all. They're not funding something foundationaly important like OpenSSH or a filesystem or a browser. The only notable thing about it is the cult of personality behind it.Throwing money at that *is* an explicitly political move.
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in reply to Growlph Ibex • • •@growlph @rolenthedeep Oh, yeah, I'm a huge fan of tiling window managers and keyboard-driven interfaces. DWM has been my daily driver for years.
I guess my point is just that I get rankled by the term "distro" being thrown around. This hasn't earned that title. And it makes zero sense for this, of all the truly important projects in the world, to be getting this kind of funding.
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Unknown parent • • •@thestrangelet @libreleah sure. I mean.. i typically just install linux on older machines and use them. I have no issues with that. And maybe i'll just have a policy to always do that now.
However, it only half solves the problem, because SOMEONE is still buying the Lenovo, etc..
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in reply to Tommi 🤯 • • •thanks for showing more spine and integrity than @frameworkcomputer!
I hope that you guys will find a different company / project willing to see your #integrity as inspiring enough to at least consider hiring you.
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in reply to Tommi 🤯 • • •I'm so impressed with your decision to stand by your values. It's incredibly sad that it has come to this, with all the valuable work that you do. 😔
I hope that Framework will finally listen.
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Unknown parent • • •@adisonverlice TLDR they [deliberately)(community.frame.work/t/framewo…) chose to support a racist, far right piece of shit for no valid reason and refuse to accept the criticism.
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It has been extremely disappointing watching Framework go down this path.
And even more disappointing is the dogged refusal to even acknowledge the concerns people have over their support for DHH. And how their forums have let trolls and sealions have the run of the place.
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It has been extremely disappointing watching Framework go down this path.
And even more disappointing is the dogged refusal to even acknowledge the concerns people have over their support for DHH. And how their forums have let trolls and sealions have the run of the place.
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in reply to Tommi 🤯 • • •Alexandre Oliva
in reply to tyil • • •there is an army of social engineers ready to push wedges into our community to divide us over issues unrelated to our core shared values, twisting them beyond the breaking point. I can't tell whether this case was one of those, but it is a weakness in our community that makes us vulnerable and worse off, and it's been actively exploited for quite some time. we have to patch ASAP. I wish I had a solution, but all I can see is that people are often too ready to condemn and silence and cancel over a whiff of twisted evidence, and too intolerant to differences, particularly when it comes to tolerance of differences. there is probably such a thing as misguided tolerance, but rejecting people who haven't learned that yet, and who aren't ready to learn that yet, doesn't strike me as a positive move; rejecting people who tolerate such misguided tolerance doesn't either. how many levels removed from that chain must one be to avoid cancellation? heck, maybe I'm too (misguidedly?) tolerant to diversity myself. will that get me canceled again? 😞
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