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@oliphant Fine with me, but to be clear, it was written by a friend who prefers to remain anonymous.
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Anonymous is totally fine, just didn't even want to re-share and clip the text until I was sure that re-sharing was okay.

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@oliphant I'd like to get the link when it's done; just had the same idea, you where faster 😉​
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in reply to TProphet

I'm afraid a lot of the rest of the world are unaware of all this too.

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We care about this and a lot more but it's proving difficult to find a throat to get one's fingers around.

By accident or design, it's a slippery malignity we're dealing with.

Ultimately looks as though it'll need some kind of general strike or the like, but that momentum is slow to develop. Recognition is a slow dawn.

Deeply sorry.

in reply to Doug Bostrom

@Doug_Bostrom You have your second amendment. Its proponent ammosexuals say that it's to fight tyranny.

This is me pointing to that tyranny and waiting for your ammosexuals to pave the way to freedom.

Get busy.

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@ZDL
Well, that way lies madness because as with pickup trucks and yachts somebody always has a bigger gun.

Here we have a rabble vs. state national guard and federal forces, the latter two being the "well regulated milita" envisioned by the drunken dilettantes authoring founding documents as a guard against tyranny and now under the command of a tyrant.

Here money rules all. A general strike is to talk with money as a weapon, peacefully.

in reply to TProphet

this American agrees with every word.

I love my Canadian neighbors, have deep affection and respect for Canada, and am sick and disgusted at the things this president says and does. It is disgraceful and frankly disgusts me to see Canada treated so poorly by this administration.

it makes me infinitely sad and fills me with anguish to see our relationship soured by this damned fool and his bellicose idiocy.

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@cross This American is in complete agreement with you, Dan Cross. If Canada would take me and my small family, I’d move there in heartbeat with my very nontrivial assets and spending.
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@cxj @cross
We have an app(lication) for that: canadavisa.com/moving-to-canad…

A bunch of other routes for moving to Canada on that page as well.

I came as part of a job offer for my parnert. It's not instant, but it is way, way worth the effort.

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@Nick_Stevens_graphics @cxj @cross
Absolutely.

But let me tell you a story… When I "landed" in Canada, a camper from TX was also being interviewed. The people had not declared their guns, because they had the right to carry.

In the USA.

Canada is not the USA, never has been. Its laws are different. Its culture is different. If a Canadian becomes very polite, they are likely angry.

That difference alone - that they become **more** polite when angry - is just how different it is.

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@Amgine @cxj @cross
Yes, and it's Americans like these who will be responsible for Americans in general being refused entry.
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@Nick_Stevens_graphics @cxj @cross
Yes! Exactly! This is one of sources of the Canadian version. Plus a wonderful dose from Québec stating the absurd in a jovial fashion. And let me tell you, the Salish around here… 👩‍🍳 💋

Most of us USians completely miss it.

May I strongly suggest the film "Bon Cop, Bad Cop" dated, but… some prescient (and trenchant) social commentary.

in reply to Amgine

@Amgine @Nick_Stevens_graphics @cxj @cross
We went up to BC from Florida back in 2017 and were interviewed including search of the camper and truck.

When asked if we had any weapons or ammunition or other prohibited items said no. When asked again with him saying are you sure told them if I did they would be about 3000 miles away.

Guess our reputation as the Gunshine state is well known up there.

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@nerb @Nick_Stevens_graphics @cxj @cross
Yes. As far as I know there are no countries which welcome weapons at the border, including the USA. They can be brought in, but under very carefully controlled circumstances. Ifyou are going to another county you should know their rules.

My (also US citizen) partner was nearly arrested at the US border, coming across to bring me tools for boat repair. That included an undeclared crowbar. This was too dangerous for US CBP.

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@Amgine @nerb @cxj @cross
Ah yes, the good old USA.

Where military grade assault weapons are an absolute right, but kinder eggs are just too dangerous.

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@Nick_Stevens_graphics

Heh. It is one two events which are regularly trotted out to induce guilt. The other involved my rigging knife discovered in the bottom of my computer bag, which she had borrowed to fly within the USA in early 2002, about 6 months after 9/11.

I still do not understand how that is *my* fault…

in reply to Stéphane Charette 🇨🇦

@charette thank you for setting out so clearly. I've been watching this from the UK, with not a little fear for us and Europe, but confess I'd not realized just how serious it is. All strength to you all.
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@charette Thank you.
A good read for our global friends too. Canada is on the northern side of the longest undefended border in the world, with integrated supply chains and a longstanding connected economy with the US, and we haven’t had to even think about militarily defending ourselves in over 200 years against our closest neighbour and friend. Unless you’re actively working against the US’s lecherous orange leader, you’re complicit in ending our sovereignty.
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in reply to TProphet

There are errors in dates

The document was signed in 2020, not 2018,; it was Dec 25th he offered Gretzky to be Governor in Canada .....and more....(I have receipts)

but the general idea is there

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in reply to TProphet

At this time, on behalf of the United States, I would like to offer Canada our unconditional surrender.
in reply to TProphet

@segfaul7 Mexico gets Texas, after all the U.S. stole it from them in the first place, so they can keep it gulf of Mexico.

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in reply to Dianora (Diane Bruce)

@Dianora or we could retroactively grant Texas' request for secession... how funny would it be if this tickled a MAGA nerve and they actually did it?
in reply to Dianora (Diane Bruce)

@Dianora @segfaul7 why do you hate Mexico so much that you’d force Texas on them?

Cut Texas loose. Set up strict immigration borders - nobody in or out, just like they want. Leave them to their own devices.

Don’t take the US’s biggest problem and force it on Mexico.

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@mathaetaes @Dianora @segfaul7

Yes. There are a lot of federal assets in Texas, though, and I would recommend that Congress charge them 50% of FMV for all of it.

in reply to Dianora (Diane Bruce)

@Dianora

Well, if we are splitting the U.S. back to previous borders, then all the border states go to Mexico (see the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, 1848), where the U.S annexed about 55% of Mexico's territory (California, Nevada, Arizona, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma, New Mexico AND Texas)

Just saying.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_o…

Also note: "American intervention" is the language used for "marched in and took it, negotiating peace and "payment" after the fact"

@tprophet @segfaul7

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in reply to azteclady

@herhandsmyhands @Dianora @segfaul7 I say Mexico should take back the west and Quebec should be reverted to its previous borders including Ontario and Detroit down to Louisiana. Hell, Louisiana is named after the French king.
in reply to TProphet

@Dianora @segfaul7 “South Canada Wastes” would make more sense, seeing as it’s not a gulf.

Or you mean the Gulf of Mexico? Canadians for sure would rename it back to MX. Politeness and all that.

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in reply to segfaul7

@segfaul7 Thank you, that's probably for the best. Last time the USA attacked Canada, it did not end well for the USA. This time, Canada has NATO and the Commonwealth behind it, and honestly pretty much every member of both of those would seize the opportunity to both help a friend, of course, and slap that fool as a special bonus.
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@hatter

I'm sorry, where are you seeing all these other countries "behind" us?

Starmer said there's no light between him and Trump on Canada. Rutte pretty much laughed off Trump's Greenland talk in the Oval Office and did not challenge him on Canada.

There is no chorus of condemnation for Trump's words from world leaders, nor is there a chorus of support for Canada.

All of our allies will happily accept our destruction if it keeps US guns from pointing at them.

@segfaul7 @tprophet

in reply to AlexanderVI

@AlexanderVI @hatter @segfaul7
That's only because nobody is taking it seriously yet.

trump is so full of shit that it's difficult to know when he is being serious

in reply to Captain Jack Sparrow

@Captain_Jack_Sparrow

This is not one of those cases. Public statements, reports of direct conversations with Canadian officials, and the creep zone of Technocracy and American Imperialist enthusiasts around him are not hard to decode - in many cases they are perfectly explicit.

He is telling us all exactly what he plans to do.

It is not a joke. It is not a bit of random weirdness.

If what it takes to make I clear is a full spectrum invasion, we are doomed.

@hatter @segfaul7 @tprophet

in reply to AlexanderVI

@AlexanderVI @hatter @segfaul7
I think there will be a huge international outcry, and even his own military will refuse to act on his orders.

I don't doubt that he is serious, but I think other leaders are reluctant to take his threats seriously

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@Captain_Jack_Sparrow @hatter @segfaul7
I am certain there is deep reluctance to take it seriously. Contemplating it requires completely rethinking all aspects of current military strategy.

I would like to believe the Joint Chiefs would balk and/or the JAGs would make a stink about legality. He has already removed likely impediments in both those institutions. Hegseth is clearly a "how high" yes-man.

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@AlexanderVI @Captain_Jack_Sparrow @hatter @segfaul7
Trumps playing the same plan that Hitler used, down to the beer putsch, sentenced in court, won the election, instituting lebensraum, erasing LGBTQ (pink triangles), othering foreigners with extreme prejudice, and more.

And I don't believe he'll willingly leave the presidency after 4y. Hitler didnt, likely for similar 'emergency reasons' with ongoing wars with Canada and Greenland.

The only way he's leaving is the following:

Congress grows a pair and kicks his ass into prison.

An assassin actually does it right, and not that staged ear shit.

Or he goes out like the painter and offs himself.

in reply to PieRat

@pierat
I cannot add anything to what you have written, you have covered it quite precisely.

The phrase comes in this case from the entertainment business - when producers want creators to make changes to their vision, they provide comments that are referred to as "notes".

@Captain_Jack_Sparrow @hatter @segfaul7 @tprophet

in reply to AlexanderVI

@AlexanderVI @hatter @segfaul7
Canada can handle itself to a certain point at which point we will need our allies support, it won't be pretty BUT CANADA WILL NEVER BE THE 51st STATE.

If you really believe the rule based order no longer exists your as oblivious as the convicted felon currently leading the USA.

CONTINUE TO FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT!!!!

#boycottusa #Canada #Denmark #Mexico #Panama #Greenland #theCommonwealth #NATO #Europeanunion #Gaza #Ukraine #Palestine #Yemen

in reply to AlexanderVI

@AlexanderVI @hatter @segfaul7 I think we're all in the same boat here, I'm in New Zealand, we have a tiny military and not much money, and our two biggest trading partners are China and the US, either of which could wipe us out militarily or economically without even trying.

I know it doesn't help, since you're right next to the threat.

I also don't know what our leaders would do if the US really did try to squeeze you. And I'm sorry about that.

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@mu @AlexanderVI @hatter @segfaul7 I actually can quite well imagine Luxon and Hipkins in that situation and there is only one person who I'd suspect would do the right thing. #NZpol

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@va2lam @AlexanderVI @hatter @segfaul7 I think he is more likely to do the right thing, but it would be a place of immense pressure, and I don't know if anyone could guarantee that they would do the right thing.
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@segfaul7
If Canada acquired all of our West coast states & the East coast down to NC, it would look like a hump-backed dinosaur.
in reply to TProphet

I find this here interesting as well in this context:

euractiv.com/section/politics/…

And yeah, would be a nice move to join the EU (or just thinking about it and starting talks). This would make the orange man explode. And one good thing is: you can leave the EU again - in contrast to the US, because you still would be a souvereign country...

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in reply to TProphet

Let's add a couple more things:

What Trump has said is actually covered by treaties the USA has signed. That means he is violating the US Constitution.

And the Charter of the United Nations.

And the Charter of NATO

And treaties with Canada, the UK, and others.

That is why the **world** is sitting up and taking notice. He is violating international law, which is the web of treaties - many created by the USA - to preserve the peace.

in reply to TProphet

> We wholeheartedly believe that our closest ally and friend is about to bring violence across our border

Why?

in reply to casey is remote

@realcaseyrollins
It has a lot to do with your president saying that he wants to make Canada the 51st state. Repeatedly, in social media, in press conferences and in meetings with international leaders. He has been directly questioned about it, and has not backed off on the idea. We HAVE to take him at his word.
in reply to Andre

@acouturier What does that have to do anything? Is violence the once way the #USA can gain a state? I'm pretty sure we bought #Alaska from #Russia.
in reply to casey is remote

@realcaseyrollins
That would suggest that we are for sale, we aren’t. Canada is a sovereign Nation, not just a chunk of land someone has laying around. So far he has started an economic war, and we have to prepare for when that doesn’t work.
in reply to Andre

@acouturier I personally think that #Trump isn't seriously interested in taking #Canada, at least by force, but to each their own. That certainly isn't the most shocking or unreasonable take I've hard this week.
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@realcaseyrollins
Here is the thing, serious or not, people do have to take what a world leader says at face value. And it is not a rare take up here. Here is link to a couple polls that just released thestar.com/politics/federal/e…
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in reply to casey is remote

@realcaseyrollins The US has a history of invading other countries unprovoked, using flimsy pretenses as an excuse. Exhibit A: Iraq.
in reply to TProphet

Is there any talk of some sort of wall on Canada’s southern border that the US pays for? Sorry. It had to be asked. 🫤
in reply to TProphet

Y'all are definitely not overreacting. And right to be angry. He does mean it. And he'll keep focused on it because he's senile and it's one of the things he remembers.

My sincere hope is that no one here who might follow through will listen to him.

We'll be fighting against it with you.

in reply to TProphet

Americans who are aware of current political news do understand why you're angry. We too are alarmed and angry at this administration.

We do care. There is so much being sabotaged and destroyed right now, it's hard to do enough protests and calls to cover everything. But we're trying.

Nobody sensible and decent wants to invade Canada. But "sensible and decent" are not currently in office.

in reply to Kathmandu

@Kathmandu We know you do, but we also know how many Americans (and Canadians, even) are not really paying attention, or hearing about it in passing from Bill Maher or something as the butt of some stupid joke. There are so many people who do not understand what annexation would mean, or how serious this actually is, on both sides.

We would get no benefit from joining the US, we'd just be opening ourselves up to being robbed

in reply to caitp

@Kathmandu and having a US-supported puppet government, would be virtually the same. Which is why we have to be extremely careful who is representing us, or conveying the situation to Canadians, they can not be US loyalists, and if they are, they need to be taken off the board.
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great thread- although I’m shocked to see the number of people who still don’t understand what’s happening. At the G7 meeting Melanie Joly, Minister of Foreign Affairs, had to explain that Trump’s threats are no joke. Marco Rubio said it’s a difference of opinion between Trump and the govt of Canada. No wonder we’re so pissed off. I don’t want to hear people apologize for trump anymore. I want to hear what people are doing to fight his tyranny.

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in reply to Woodsy09 🇨🇦

@mgrahamwoods What's laid bare here is that the US government isn't controlled by the American people, and doesn't work in our interests. It's controlled by approximately 1,000 rich families, and works pretty much exclusively in their interests. Historically, when societies are this far gone, it ends in stuff like the French Revolution.
in reply to TProphet

With the slight difference that half of France didn't vote for Louis XVI three times in a row in reasonably democratic elections.
in reply to Martin Rundkvist

@mrundkvist “reasonably” is doing some dangerously heavy lifting there when talking about a country drowning in propaganda across all media, with increasingly blatant barriers to electoral access for populations inclined to vote against reactionaries, in a political system that is structurally and operationally antidemocratic at every level.
in reply to Donald Ball

@donaldball Who then are the people who voted repeatedly to create this damaged system?!
in reply to Martin Rundkvist

@mrundkvist

The elites, over the centuries.

The Constitution was never ratified in a democratic vote. States were added in an explicit manner to maintain slaver control. Political redistricting and the mechanisms of voting have only been put to popular question in exceptional cases (and the people have uniformly voted for more democratic control at every such occasion).

in reply to TProphet

@mgrahamwoods does it though? The French revolution was a very historically significant even. Assuming America will get there is more American exceptionalism, imo.

Why wouldn't America end up more like China or Russia or Belarus or North Korea? I don't that it will, but I think Americans have tolerated violent repression, starvation of necessities, but withering inequalities and a significant level of double-speak propaganda for a long time.

in reply to TProphet

@mgrahamwoods

Said this elsewhere just tonight, but it seems relevant:

> The One Percent's propaganda and tactics to stave off the next revolution have been quite effective here. They've created multiple generations of idiots and it's become inbred now. Epigenetics is a harsh mistress when the result is for the worse.

in reply to Iwillyeah

I don't think you comprehend what I said. That's a bold and incendiary accusation to make without any effort to confirm your interpretation. Further, your inclusion of "my friend" addressed to a complete stranger suggests a preemptive degree of derision or condescension that you'd probably rather not cop to explicitly.
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in reply to VulcanTourist

@VulcanTourist @mgrahamwoods I was trying to be a bit gentle rather than going off on you about it, but OK.

Calling a population of people epigentically stupid is much more likely to be used against people who have lived for generations through oppression, stress, poverty and pollution than who's grand-daddies burned crosses. It's a very dangerous game to play loosely with, and casually using it as a way to explain the bad choices an electorate had made is bad discourse.

in reply to Iwillyeah

@VulcanTourist @mgrahamwoods it also makes the same mistakes that politicians have made repeatedly. Seeing opposition voters as stupid is counterproductive and more about soothing your own wounded pride. It does nothing to win you the next election, and rather unsurprisingly even stupid people bristle at being called stupid.
in reply to Iwillyeah

@VulcanTourist @mgrahamwoods meanwhile, I'd truly like to see a study that examines the epigentically effects of propaganda. If that's something you've come across, please do share. No sarcasm.
in reply to Iwillyeah

@Iwillyeah @mgrahamwoods

As I said moments ago in another reply, I've read of research that hints that such a thing is more possible than we previously believed. My memory is diagnosed capricious and I can't cite anything specific. I can't even recall a useful ballpark when I read the articles. If I find something in my browser history I'll share.

in reply to Iwillyeah

@Iwillyeah @mgrahamwoods

First, "stupid" is an inaccurate too-brief stand-in for a more involved discussion of the roots of self-delusion, a wonderful feature - not - dependent on the limbic brain and its degree of dominance.

Second, some recent research in epigenetics has highlighted just how much potential there is for behaviors of one generation to predispose future generations to the same behaviors. American propaganda has been a LIFELONG exposure for every American of multiple generations. It's not a trivial thing. I've been considering the effects of epigenetics for decades, and my experiences with raising cats with common mothers but different fathers has made me all the more curious.

Third, I wasn't referring to the choices made in one election, but rather choices and behaviors from no less than the last 50 years. Is there a culmination now? Possibly.

We can argue about whether that is too speculative, but I'm neither a eugenicist nor a Nazi.

in reply to VulcanTourist

@VulcanTourist @mgrahamwoods I didn't mean to imply you were a eugenicist. I said you were lining up to dance with them, because the assertion that people are genetically 'idiots', which sounds a lot like stupid to me, is the kind of thing Nazis like.

Anything I've read about epigentic intelligence has been exploring why IQ has increased in the last 100 years. I would genuinely be interested to read what lit this interest for you, if you do ever happen to come across it again.

in reply to Iwillyeah

@Iwillyeah @mgrahamwoods

Re: epigenetics and IQ, the first question I conceive is whether one generation's experiences with standardized IQ tests or perhaps just that form of testing more generally might lead to adaptive synaptic changes that then get subtly encoded as a predisposition? I'm not historian enough to know how testing in education and elsewhere has evolved over centuries or millennia, but I suspect most of what we recognize as "tests" is a fairly recent phenomena, perhaps even less than a century old?

in reply to VulcanTourist

@VulcanTourist @mgrahamwoods oh, it's all so loaded. Better off observing it from a distance without taking any of it as gospel, and certainly without drawing big conclusions from it.
in reply to Iwillyeah

@Iwillyeah @mgrahamwoods

It would need multigenerational research that doesn't seem likely given our cultural and political volatility.

in reply to TProphet

I would be far less worried if it was just the plan "of one man", in reality there's a whole cabal of billionaires trying to finally realise their dreams behind him and this is dangerous AF.
There's a very frightening video about this, not specifically about Canada but about the powers and ideas behind his general actions, I will put a link in my next post with a CW, because you should bring all your spoons for watching it.
Sorry if this sounds weird, but it stresses me out.
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USPol

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in reply to TProphet

@monkeyborg as an US citizen, I endorse all actions to put the hurt on our businesses and authoritarian gov. Those of us who give a shit and can are doing the same thing from the inside.

Keep it up!

We hope to call you brother and sister again, and as an independent country.

in reply to TProphet

This damage is not reversible.

It's not like Trump's first term.

Under Trump, allies who gave lives in support of the USA have been mocked and belittled.

This should not be a surprise. Trump mocked Americans who made sacrifices as Losers and Suckers,

theatlantic.com/politics/archi…

And Americans chose him to lead them.

And say little or nothing when he threatens allies with invasion.

in reply to TProphet

so I thought about it for a short minute.

Let's say this does somehow happen - no violence, no armed conflict, now Canada is a new state. Or maybe a couple of states.

This means 2 or 4 more senators in the US senate, and a bunch more members of the house of representatives.

Canada in general is way more diverse than the US and much more left leaning. The US senate is already pretty balanced, adding 2 or 4 more senators will shift it strongly to the left, which in the US means democrats. Same for the house of representatives.

There is no world in which the republicans will allow this to happen, and the democrats will not participate; plus they're in the minority now.

I think Canada is safe for now.

in reply to Arik

@pq1r I am sorry you are wrong, because liberal voices will instantly be shattered by Musks minions through blackmailing and suppression. The USA are a ruthless and mercyless dictatorship run by a mighty lunatic and are n o t to be trust anymore in anyway.
Compassionate greetings from Germany, where after the recent election some elected politicians consider to copy Trumps behavior. This is proprietarism and fascism!
@Arik
in reply to Arik

@pq1r You're making the assumption that the USA, "expanded" version of not, is going to continue having free and fair elections. Revise this assumption.
@Arik
in reply to BeeCycling

@beecycling well, you're right. The entire premise of Canada joining the US as a state hangs on the US being democratic. There's no meaning to states and representation if there US federal government becomes a dictatorship. That would just be one country conquering another.

By the way, the US doesn't have a lot of good experience doing that either. Lots of bad experience though.

in reply to Arik

@pq1r Oh for sure. Trump thinks the US can just march in anywhere and take over within days. I think Putin believed that about Ukraine too.
@Arik
in reply to TProphet

There is only faint hope of repairing the damage The Donald has done to Canada-USA relations. I don't think even if the next #USA President were an Obama or Biden that it would move the needle of Canadian public opinion. After seven decades of living in Canada, I've never seen such cool determination to see this through - decoupling #Canada from the USA. I believe the damage is done, and it's permanent. Canada will come out stronger, but it will take time...🇨🇦
in reply to Joe Carr 🇨🇦

this is generational for many Canadian's, even if threats were to stop tomorrow the distrust would last many lifetimes.

#boycottusa #Canada #Denmark #Mexico #Panama #Greenland #theCommonwealth #NATO #Europeanunion #Gaza #Ukraine #Palestine #Yemen

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in reply to Joe Carr 🇨🇦

@joetourist I doubt if it will be permanent just because of a crazy man in the white house, but It will be if they let it continue. I think Trump has aligned with Russia to help start a world war. Trump has been bought and paid for by Putin. I shutter to think about war with the USA.
in reply to Debbie Belair

@Scienceisnotopinions There's been a lot of those, actually, but for "some reason" the "free" press in the USA hasn't exactly been rushing to report it.

"I wonder why that might be?" she added while tapping at the ownership list of mass news media.

in reply to Joe Carr 🇨🇦

@joetourist @gemelliz Only if we are united and willing to fight and suffer through this, will we come out stronger. We can not cede an inch to the Americans. And as I wrote in a separate post, my family arrived here from the US, decades ago -- I don't want animosity towards the american people. But keeping the border where it is is non-negotiable, and we must be willing to fight to keep it.
in reply to Joe Carr 🇨🇦

@joetourist
Agreed, but I'm more pessimistic than you on this. I've said a few times that I believe it will take at least one generation, and possibly more, to restore the goodwill that Canada has traditionally had for the USA and its people.

So, ~25 years, or 6 presidential terms for one generation. And that clock doesn't start until the USA's leadership becomes reliably sane again and starts treating us properly. As long as the political landscape in the USA remains "the very next election could bring back a MAGA lunatic", that clock doesn't run.

There's no way this damage can be repaired with just an election of one sane president - i.e. your "faint hope" I don't think exists at all.

#USPol #Canada #insane #MAGA #damage #relations

in reply to C.

@cazabon @joetourist I think an important factor is what is to become of the former US? Is it going to descend to gangsterism like Russia? Will it even survive as one entity? What will happen to its refugees?
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@NovaNaturalist @joetourist
The film Civil War (2024) had a pretty concrete idea of what could happen to the USA. Other than the bizarre narrative choice to have Texas and California united in one of the secessionist movements, it seems a pretty realistic portrayal of a possible direction.
in reply to Joe Carr 🇨🇦

@joetourist
Escaping the heel of the yankee jackboots is definately good for Canada, despite the harm we will suffer to get there.

Chins and Elbows Up!

in reply to Joe Carr 🇨🇦

@joetourist
Yes it's permanent. Canadians will never trust America again. Considering it is trade that enriches a society, Trump's war on trade will permanently crippled America's ability to establish profitable trade relationships.
in reply to TProphet

time has run out some time ago, the US as a western nation is gone, and it certainly won't be back while this GOP exists. boycot is ok but not sufficient, fascism needs to be combatted, if not it'll destroy everyone, and their ex-allies first, history knows, do the US people know ?, it doesn't look like it, they're too nationalistic to know, they still think the US is "the greatest country" - they are our enemy now, better accept that quickly and try not to perish
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in reply to TProphet

And you have every right to be, we've allowed a Russian Asset to become prez, not once but twice.
I hope Canada joins NATO. At the rate we are goin, civil war ain't far away. These rich Cocksuckerz-n-their A.I. Drone/Robot Super-Dooper-DOOMSDAY SHELTERZ. So when it all collapses under the weight of this runaway train called capital"ISM" they can retire to shelterz-n-emerge master race???
in reply to StanleyHOOTZZ

I support Canada against PIMP-putins TRAITOR tRUMP!!! Mother Fuckin "GOP-FUBAR on STEROIDZ"!!!!!
in reply to StanleyHOOTZZ

@stanleyHootzz Canada has been a part of NATO/OTAN since *checks notes* it was founded in 1949.

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in reply to TProphet

it's done and Canada is writing it's new destiny. The US has chosen its dark path instead.
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So ot seems like trump is taking lessons from his owner putin, who trump idolises.

Canada is trump's Ukraine.

#TrumpRegime #DictatorTrump

in reply to TProphet

I would like to apologize to our Canadian brethren on behalf of the sane Americans. Many of us hate him, too.
in reply to TProphet

I agree...and I'm an American. I never voted for him. I saw him and Muskrat coming 20 years ago. I really did, and people didn't understand what I was talking about.
in reply to TProphet

WOW. Thanks for sharing this, I had no idea. This is utter madness.
in reply to TProphet

He's talking about the US--Canadian border like it's the 38th parallel or the border in Ireland: a point of tension for decades.

This guy is insane and you are right to defend yourselves from him.

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We Canadians haven't killed any Americans. But step one foot over the border and you'll be surprised how fast that changes!
in reply to TProphet

The Orange Menace doesn't even remember his own actions and his own words. Is this a form of dementia? His, after all, 79 years old.
in reply to TProphet

The reason Trump keeps throwing around mentions of World War III isn't actually because he believes anyone else is going to cause it but because Project 2025 has coached him to cause it.
in reply to TProphet

Do we know how many US citizens in the northern States would prefer to join Canada?
in reply to Martin Schröder

@oneiros For my part, I would happily swap my US passport for either a Canadian or California one. I haven't moved politically. The US just keeps moving farther and farther away from me.
in reply to TProphet

Many people in the US ended up here by accident. When my family fled the Russian Czars, my grandfather came through Canada to the US. He could have easily stayed in Montreal.

This is not a struggle between nation states. This is a struggle between fascism and democracy.
Many in the US want Canada to lead the way to resist the rise of fascism and your resistance helps us. Democracy and liberty depend on Canada standing up against the criminal and sex offender in power in the White House.

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in reply to TProphet

Thank you for posting this timeline!

I follow news closely and half of these statements were new to me—imagine how badly informed the Fox news crowd must be? or those who only get their news from certain podcasts or YouTube channels?

Very dangerous stuff, this disinformation.

in reply to TProphet

Remember when the Orange Emperor said he was going to build a wall and make the Mexicans pay?
in reply to TProphet

Can confirm. There's almost universal outrage. The psychological damage to the relationship with the US is extreme and personal.

Example: I was in an elevator with a number of people and a young delivery person was wearing a jacket with a us flag patch on it. After he got off someone remarked "He's brave wearing that around here" everyone replied in agreement. Six months ago no one would've noticed.

in reply to TProphet

Wouldn't be surprised if more American states were interested in joining Canada instead.
in reply to Kerfuffle

@kerfuffle I learned here that at least some Canadians are offended by the idea of states joining them.

It’s amazing how much damage one guy can do - of course he's had a lot of help from Rethuglicans.

in reply to TProphet

holy shit, i only knew half of that and still thought the anger was totally warranted. Respect from the states. Fuck us up. Just remember to take us good ones in as refugees if we collapse over here plz
in reply to TProphet

They are too busy going to hockey games and other events. Pigs!