Why is the IPTV scene such a toxic shit hole?
I know it's probably because there's money to be made.
I just wish there was a good place to discuss IPTV providers that wasn't full of sketchy resellers over promising and under delivering. You'd think they could at least sort out their EPGs as most I have used are like 80% complete at best.
Not asking for provider recommendations, not sure if that's allowed here. Just wondering if y'all know of a place where that shit can be discussed in a neutral and honest environment?
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sabreW4K3
in reply to Yppm • • •Yppm
in reply to sabreW4K3 • • •Totally. I just don't have the desire to create it lol.
Would have to basically ban resellers or flair them or maybe a monthly reseller thread. But open and good faith discussion of the different services would be nice.
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Barbecue Cowboy
in reply to Yppm • • •tenchiken
in reply to Yppm • • •I think you are right on the money (heh pun).
It's one type of pirate to hoard and spread about the booty, but it takes a special form of hypocrisy to turn around and charge for hard money.
As to communities, I can't help too much there but instead offer that there actually do exist groups that effectively have created swarms that are like a private tracker but for live/on demand viewing. Think an invite group of dozens of jellyfin servers. It might be safer to work toward identifying and joining one of those, depending on your desire.
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Yppm
in reply to tenchiken • • •I get that the services themselves cost money and there are ties to organized crime (or so I've read).
Interested in these jellyfin swarms I'll have to do some research thanks!
Tm12
in reply to tenchiken • • •tenchiken
in reply to Tm12 • • •Ironically I'm ok with this in moderation... But scalpers that charge a high price, more than materials and maybe a small fee, I dislike.
Filling a void is a service. While there a grey area, there's a balance between acceptable fee and blatant junk.
Region locking of any type I feel should be outright illegal, but I'm just a lowly pirate with bent ethics.
m-p{3}
in reply to Yppm • • •Personally I stick to relatively legal IPTV playlists, such as github.com/iptv-org/iptv
Straight and to the point, no bullshit.
The only place where I struggle is finding the perfect player. On PC I use iptvnator and on Android I use IPTV Pro. They work well enough, but I wish I had a universal app that could carry the configuration between devices.
GitHub - iptv-org/iptv: Collection of publicly available IPTV channels from all over the world
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in reply to Yppm • • •skankhunt42
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in reply to skankhunt42 • • •kevincox
in reply to Yppm • • •If you don't need to watch Jeopardy live it is pretty readily available via torrents. Probably in better quality and without ads.
Sports are much harder to find. There are trackers but they are much harder to get into and I can't attest to the completeness (I'm not really into sports) and watching it live is probably more relevant.
HakFoo
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in reply to the_doktor • • •Banzai51
in reply to HakFoo • • •Lots of TV stations in the US are moving to the new broadcast standard, ATSC 3.0, encrypting the channel, and stopping their ATSC 1.0 broadcasts. This makes an antenna useless. And the only digital boxes that are allowed are ones that have to be plugged into the TV directly with HDMI. This means you'd have to have an antenna and expensive converter box for EACH TV.
Basically, broadcast TV is an unreliable mess now.
HakFoo
in reply to Banzai51 • • •ATSC 3.0 is usable. I have a HDHomerun sitting on my LAN with a couple 3.0 tuners.
The big problem is:
Banzai51
in reply to HakFoo • • •prole
in reply to kevincox • • •Not really... Tons of sites live stream sports.
skankhunt42
in reply to Yppm • • •Isn't IPTV shit for sports or really anything popular? I've read there's a tonne of buffering and quality problems... I dont watch sports but I have family and friends looking for a solution and ask me because they're on my Plex server.
Personally the *arr stack is perfect for what I do. When I want to watch something I'll scroll through the recently added and pick something.
Yppm
in reply to skankhunt42 • • •If not for IPTV, how else do people pirate sports?
I've had luck in the past and am having luck recently with a decent provider (buffering-wise, EPG is shit).
lemmyingly
in reply to skankhunt42 • • •anon5621
in reply to skankhunt42 • • •skankhunt42
in reply to anon5621 • • •Can you explain a bit more? Any resources I can read up on?
From what I've read, the keys rotate every 6 seconds so you'll need to find a reliable, low latency source that will allow you access. Aside from that I haven't found much in the way of required equipment or providers as everyone is talking about IPTV these days.
anon5621
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in reply to skankhunt42 • • •ragebutt
in reply to Yppm • • •I’ve tried 4 iptv providers for long term subs and evaluated a ton more. They’ve all been okay but none were amazing so I keep trying new ones when my sub runs out
My basic thing is this: if they don’t offer a trial I don’t fuck with them. If the epg is totally fucked or the buffering on channels I watch is atrocious during the trial I don’t bother. If that’s all good I buy a month and see how it goes. I do this because I’m pretty sure some have better servers for trials, or maybe I just got lucky during the trial period, because during the month service goes to shit sometimes. If the month is good I’ll extend it longer
I’ve never found one with a complete EPG. I’ve found ones with complete epgs for us channels (my current one has this) but international channels, raw 4k streams, etc? They always have no EPG
forum.iptvinsider.org/ is the best forum I’ve found for this but as you’ve said it’s a nightma
... Show more...I’ve tried 4 iptv providers for long term subs and evaluated a ton more. They’ve all been okay but none were amazing so I keep trying new ones when my sub runs out
My basic thing is this: if they don’t offer a trial I don’t fuck with them. If the epg is totally fucked or the buffering on channels I watch is atrocious during the trial I don’t bother. If that’s all good I buy a month and see how it goes. I do this because I’m pretty sure some have better servers for trials, or maybe I just got lucky during the trial period, because during the month service goes to shit sometimes. If the month is good I’ll extend it longer
I’ve never found one with a complete EPG. I’ve found ones with complete epgs for us channels (my current one has this) but international channels, raw 4k streams, etc? They always have no EPG
forum.iptvinsider.org/ is the best forum I’ve found for this but as you’ve said it’s a nightmare to browse and absolute garbage. It does at least have some user reviews but I ultimately don’t trust them too much and go with the above
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IPTV PROVIDER FORUM - IPTV INSIDER FORUM IPTV PROVIDERS 🔥Yppm
in reply to ragebutt • • •ragebutt
in reply to Yppm • • •Sure.
I’m not sure what the rules are about recommendations of specific providers here as you’ve said but I can certainly write about my experiences with providers
Emu streams is my current provider and they’re decent. The EPG is complete for us channels but not for some of the foreign stuff or for 4k. They have a pretty extensive vod library but the quality ranges, sometimes it’s 4k but sometimes it’s 480p, mostly 1080p, almost none of it has subtitles (but the channels do). I think they just grabbed shows as they came out and never updated them. Buffering is uncommon but does happen sometimes. I don’t watch sports but my partner does; the Super Bowl 4k stream had lots of buffering but the 1080 stream was perfect and basketball games work fine. Pricing was about 70cad for 7 months when I got it and they accepted paypal and crypto
I also tried earl hickeys iptv, very similar experience but more issues with buffering and not as many channels. However pricing was extremely attractive, 35gbp for 12mo
And not via that forum b
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I’m not sure what the rules are about recommendations of specific providers here as you’ve said but I can certainly write about my experiences with providers
Emu streams is my current provider and they’re decent. The EPG is complete for us channels but not for some of the foreign stuff or for 4k. They have a pretty extensive vod library but the quality ranges, sometimes it’s 4k but sometimes it’s 480p, mostly 1080p, almost none of it has subtitles (but the channels do). I think they just grabbed shows as they came out and never updated them. Buffering is uncommon but does happen sometimes. I don’t watch sports but my partner does; the Super Bowl 4k stream had lots of buffering but the 1080 stream was perfect and basketball games work fine. Pricing was about 70cad for 7 months when I got it and they accepted paypal and crypto
I also tried earl hickeys iptv, very similar experience but more issues with buffering and not as many channels. However pricing was extremely attractive, 35gbp for 12mo
And not via that forum but another provider I found via a private tracker called media solutions that is similar to emu. Less issues with buffering but pricing and most responsive to support via telegram but priciest. I don’t remember the pricing offhand but like $140usd a year or so?
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kickassduke42
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in reply to Yppm • • •I think kickassduke42 and I have been using the same source of info. It's all thanks to mrrobvs at the other site and started with this post. Prior to that, I had always used various resellers at 2x-5x of what I'm paying now.
I'm surprised that group hasn't been taken down yet. Maybe we could find a way to post reviews of the various services, something that doesn't clutter up the community and makes it easy to search for relevant info.
Nyarlathotep
in reply to darcmage • • •Appoxo
in reply to Yppm • • •Annoying as heck to configure but at least it works.
kratoz29
in reply to Yppm • • •I once got downvoted in Reddit for asking how I could use legal IPTV streams with the TiviMate Android TV app (which IMO it is the best you can have for IPTV experience).
They even told me I was surely using clever writing to get other users spit their secretly guarded IPTV resellers lol.