@Noortjevee The only things JKR brought to the table were cruel interconnects between the much better sources she stole from, plus lawyers.
When I read the first HP book, I thought it was a fanfic homage to the Worst Witch series or maybe Chrestomanci series. Or Books of Magic for the protagonist. Or Agatha Christie for plot. Nope. Complete rip-off.
OK, time to watch some Worst Witch! Or Owl House!
A pretty good summary of the wherefroms and examples:
@CStamp @jakebrake The Books of Abarat is a young adult fantasy series by Clive Barker, set in a magical archipelago of 25 islands, each representing an hour of the day, with a planned five books, of which three have been published: Abarat (2002), Days of Magic, Nights of War (2004), and Absolute Midnight (2011).
@CStamp @jakebrake The series follows a girl named Candy Quackenbush as she navigates this world, battling darkness and discovering her connection to it, all brought to life with Barker's own surreal illustrations.
@Noortjevee @CStamp @jakebrake The world of Abarat where every island is an hour reminds me of an artists rendition of a tidally locked "eyeball" planet.
@Noortjevee @jakebrake I think he got his magic rules a lot more consistent. JKR had so many inconsistencies. They can do a reparo, for instance, to fix broken glasses, but poor witches/wizards have patched or ratty robes? They all seem to take the train, in a muggle train station, to Hogwarts, but there are magic folk who don't know what muggles dress like?
"There is no magic strong enough to raise the dead...oh wait there is, we just lied. Lied so the only intresting (to me) part is negated and leads to dull by the books resolution.
@Noortjevee That didn't bother me so much because the cost of coming back was one that cost a lot and corrupted the person throughout the process. And he didn't really come back from the dead because he never totally died. He was just mostly dead. 😀 @jakebrake @stux
@CStamp @jakebrake the whole "...and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives."
(had to google the words)
Was kinda intresting to me.
but the cop out of the deathly hallows, and then the goddamn expeliarmus deflect bullshit, so they could go "no no...HArry never killed him, voldemort kinda killed himself"
@Noortjevee @CStamp @jakebrake They could just have said "predicting the future doesn't work, suck it up". Unfortunately fantasy on magic is rarely courageous enough to handle the "prophesy of the one who will be our salvation" properly (ie. this way).
to be fair that's probably incorrect. I would guess that there's a nucleus of Warner Brothers (and other) corporate executives hoping that this remake will put enough shine back into the Rowling brand that they can squeeze another couple of decades of money from it. I wouldn't be surprised if "a new generation of children" has been invoked in corporate boardrooms, as the purported beneficiaries of flogging Harry Potter back into service for a new TV show.
@anthrazit that series already had so many problematic themes, but also, Rowling is such a cruel, anti-feminist, transphobic, bigot, that I don't understand how anyone can still support her work in any way that puts money in her pocket or spreads her toxic influence.
It's like saying, "Voldemort's policies left something to be desired, but he really brought people together". Except you didn't even acknowledge the first part.
@anthrazit I have some follow-up questions. - do you think I deserve healthcare? - do you support my right to call my wife a woman? - do you think people should be allowed to choose what we do with our bodies? - do you think racism or anti-Semitism are bad? - do you think women are harmed by a system that enforces strict gender roles and places their value on how well they meet an arbitrary aesthetic standard?
If you answered "yes" to any of these, you might want to rethink your support.
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@anthrazit Ah, first reply and I got DARVO crossed from my alt-right bingo, and several right-wing talking points.
What you call “unpopular” is in JKKKR's words: transphobia, queerphobia, holocaust denial, financing those views; from her works you can add pro-slavery (Dobby), antisemitic (goblin bankers), (a short list).
So you can defend her “views” and call it a “democracy” or even “marketplace of ideas”, but you're just pro-fash.
This isn't about censorship. It's about handing money directly to people who are trying to push a marginalized group out of existence. Forcing trans women to be in mens' prisons, for example, is going to get some of them killed. Do you get that?
@Linux Where do you think it says they fall under US jurisdiction? The places I see the US mentioned is where they have registered trademarks in the US and says consumer users in the US agree to binding arbitration and a class action waiver unless they opt out within the first 30 days of agreeing to the terms of service
@trebach @Linux Proton is problematic due to cooperating with the FBI. Did they resist? Yeah, sure. Could they have resisted a lot more and in more public ways? Definitely.
Plus the owner is allegedly a racist bigoted POS. Proton might shield similarly-minded users, but anyone else, caveat utilitor.
Privacy-focused email provider Proton gave Swiss authorities payment data that reached the FBI, identifying an anonymous activist. The person was arrested for trespassing. Here's what happened and how to avoid the same trap.
Streaming services now use paid services to track how often torrents are downloaded, effectively treating piracy as another viewer metric. Just by torrenting it you're helping boost JKR's numbers. And alas, using a VPN won't change that.
There are many services, but one such tool is Piracymeter. piracymeter.com/
Feels like the remake is for people who don't want to cope with the original cast rejecting Rowling.
I'm curious if they're going to downplay the "look, I'm a racist/classist/fatphobic piece of shit" notes in this one even further than the original ones, or if they're going to lean in even farther?
And John Lithgow as Dumbledore? I've lost respect for him for having taken the role, but though I used to like him as an actor, he is not Dumbledore. ;)
A lot was left out of the movies, so this is an opportunity to tell more of the story, but considering the author, its time should be done. I guess they think they can milk it further.
Does she plan to teach a new generation of kids that only a 'man' and a 'woman' can have a child that they recklessly leave-behind while fighting the specters of their own creation, to be raised by child-slavers and sneaky serpents, who are the only ones that child can trust? And that kid's name is definitely not Jesus?
I admit, I quit watching after the werewolf one and never read them. Did I get it wrong?
my 5-year-old spotted Harry Potter branded Kinder eggs and wanted them. (She thought Harry was a witch, LOL).
I went: « No, we can’t have these because the person who created this character is very very bad and I don’t want her to earn even a cent from this sale »
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I did enjoy the films on release despite some problematic elements and they certainly don't need to be remade for streaming or otherwise even if you don't consider the problematic author and where the profits will be going
As soon as I saw the transphobic and hate filled ramblings on twitter, it was instant boycott from me for anything by JK Rowling
That's it. She lost my support right there
I wouldn't even bother to download the stuff because potter just needs to be left to die
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Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •haven't for a while now..
Never got the books popularity...
Did read them and noticed the problems straight away
stux⚡️
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •@Noortjevee
I never liked it in the first place lol, pirated
some movies but meh 🤷
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Solo la 🌍 salva a la 🌎
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •@Noortjevee
The only things JKR brought to the table were cruel interconnects between the much better sources she stole from, plus lawyers.
When I read the first HP book, I thought it was a fanfic homage to the Worst Witch series or maybe Chrestomanci series. Or Books of Magic for the protagonist. Or Agatha Christie for plot. Nope. Complete rip-off.
OK, time to watch some Worst Witch! Or Owl House!
A pretty good summary of the wherefroms and examples:
elftor.medium.com/harry-potter…
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Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Solo la 🌍 salva a la 🌎 • • •@jakebrake reading the first book i was wondering if it was a homage to "the little broomstick"
I really fucking hate that her stans keep claiming she "invented" magical schools....
Carolyn
in reply to Solo la 🌍 salva a la 🌎 • • •Carolyn
in reply to Carolyn • • •Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Carolyn • • •Solo la 🌍 salva a la 🌎
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •@Noortjevee @CStamp
Onto my list too!
This is turning into a pretty good source for things to check out! Perfect for a Friday afternoon.
🎬
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Solo la 🌍 salva a la 🌎 • • •@jakebrake @CStamp i agree...
If i may suggest one of my fave books, not tied to this.
"The thief of always" by Clive Barker.....
Amazing read
Carolyn
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •Carolyn
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •@Noortjevee @jakebrake FWIW, it seems a movie for it is in the works. 😀
"A live-action adaptation is currently in the works, scheduled to be directed by Jennifer Kent."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thie…
The Thief of Always - Wikipedia
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Carolyn • • •@CStamp @jakebrake one has been teased so often i lost hope of a good one
(Also lost hope on a new Abarat book)
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •The Books of Abarat is a young adult fantasy series by Clive Barker, set in a magical archipelago of 25 islands, each representing an hour of the day, with a planned five books, of which three have been published: Abarat (2002), Days of Magic, Nights of War (2004), and Absolute Midnight (2011).
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •The series follows a girl named Candy Quackenbush as she navigates this world, battling darkness and discovering her connection to it, all brought to life with Barker's own surreal illustrations.
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •@CStamp @jakebrake
I always kinda identtified with Candy
not sure why
It might remain a mysterie forever
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Airis Damon
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Airis Damon • • •Have a link?
This sounds intresting
Airis Damon
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •@Noortjevee @CStamp @jakebrake Here is one from Science Direct.
sciencealert.com/eyeball-plane…
Eyeball Planets May Actually Exist, And They're as Creepy as They Sound
Michelle Starr (ScienceAlert)Carolyn
in reply to Airis Damon • • •Carolyn
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Carolyn • • •@CStamp @jakebrake one of my main gripes is
"There is no magic strong enough to raise the dead...oh wait there is, we just lied. Lied so the only intresting (to me) part is negated and leads to dull by the books resolution.
Carolyn
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Carolyn • • •Carolyn
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in reply to Carolyn • • •Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Carolyn • • •@CStamp @jakebrake
the whole
"...and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives."
(had to google the words)
Was kinda intresting to me.
but the cop out of the deathly hallows, and then the goddamn expeliarmus deflect bullshit, so they could go "no no...HArry never killed him, voldemort kinda killed himself"
Glitzersachen
in reply to Noortje Van Leeuwen • • •They could just have said "predicting the future doesn't work, suck it up". Unfortunately fantasy on magic is rarely courageous enough to handle the "prophesy of the one who will be our salvation" properly (ie. this way).
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Glitzersachen • • •@glitzersachen @CStamp @jakebrake
i am confused,
can you explain?
Noortje Van Leeuwen
in reply to Solo la 🌍 salva a la 🌎 • • •@jakebrake i kept saying this part also..
Although i was harsher, i keep saying "Dumbledore only became gay because she could benefit of him being gay:
Fratm
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Andreas Zieritz
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •I don't agree.
The Harry Potter books were definitively the best reading experience I've ever had in my life.
I've read all of the books to my kids as well, and I wouldn't miss a minute of that wonderful time.
There is some much magic and wisdom in those books, and the prophecies of the hard times we are in at the moment.
I am here to protect her and willing to cast every spell I know with the exception of one of the forbidden ones.
🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🏳️⚧️🏴☠️)
in reply to Andreas Zieritz • • •@anthrazit that series already had so many problematic themes, but also, Rowling is such a cruel, anti-feminist, transphobic, bigot, that I don't understand how anyone can still support her work in any way that puts money in her pocket or spreads her toxic influence.
It's like saying, "Voldemort's policies left something to be desired, but he really brought people together". Except you didn't even acknowledge the first part.
@stux
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Morgan ⚧️
in reply to Andreas Zieritz • • •@anthrazit I have some follow-up questions.
- do you think I deserve healthcare?
- do you support my right to call my wife a woman?
- do you think people should be allowed to choose what we do with our bodies?
- do you think racism or anti-Semitism are bad?
- do you think women are harmed by a system that enforces strict gender roles and places their value on how well they meet an arbitrary aesthetic standard?
If you answered "yes" to any of these, you might want to rethink your support.
Andreas Zieritz
in reply to Morgan ⚧️ • • •If I would solemnly swear to just have social contact with people I totally agree with I would be the loneliest person in the world.
Dźwiedziu
in reply to Andreas Zieritz • • •@anthrazit
Popper's Paradox as social contract is very simple, and you've just excluded yourself from it.
@raphaelmorgan @stux
Andreas Zieritz
in reply to Dźwiedziu • • •@dzwiedziu @raphaelmorgan
Actually according to this definition this is something you do, not me.
It is not a blank check to silence opposition: The goal is to protect a tolerant society, not to censor all views deemed unpopular.
I have never excluded someone in this discussion by his/her opinion.
I just defend Rowling's right to have a different one. I don't agree on some of her views, but I defend her right to have a different view.
That is democracy, if you like it or not.
Dźwiedziu
in reply to Andreas Zieritz • • •@anthrazit
Ah, first reply and I got DARVO crossed from my alt-right bingo, and several right-wing talking points.
What you call “unpopular” is in JKKKR's words: transphobia, queerphobia, holocaust denial, financing those views; from her works you can add pro-slavery (Dobby), antisemitic (goblin bankers), (a short list).
So you can defend her “views” and call it a “democracy” or even “marketplace of ideas”, but you're just pro-fash.
Image unrelated.
@raphaelmorgan @stux
Andreas Zieritz
in reply to Dźwiedziu • • •You have definitely not read Harry Potter.
Dźwiedziu
in reply to Andreas Zieritz • • •@anthrazit
Well, it's for the better, if I'd become a pro-fash, like you.
Now bugger off.
@raphaelmorgan @stux
Violet Madder
in reply to Andreas Zieritz • • •@anthrazit @dzwiedziu @raphaelmorgan
A TOLERANT society, huh?
This isn't about censorship. It's about handing money directly to people who are trying to push a marginalized group out of existence. Forcing trans women to be in mens' prisons, for example, is going to get some of them killed. Do you get that?
advocate.com/news/jk-rowling-a…
J.K. Rowling uses Harry Potter wealth to fund anti-transgender organization
Ryan Adamczeski (Advocate.com)Ignacio (he) 🇺🇦🇪🇸🇪🇺
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in reply to Ignacio (he) 🇺🇦🇪🇸🇪🇺 • • •stux⚡️
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •*if you do want to watch the new series but not support Rowling
Get a (good) VPN like Proton + Tor for example and just download them via torrents or something

It's okay
Bamowen
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in reply to Linux Is Best • • •Linux Is Best
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Check their TOS (terms of services). You will see they cite only two countries: Switzerland and the United States.
They fall under U.S. Justification, but their TOS tries to claim they're primarily Switzerland.
Trebach
in reply to Linux Is Best • • •Solo la 🌍 salva a la 🌎
in reply to Trebach • • •@trebach @Linux
Proton is problematic due to cooperating with the FBI. Did they resist? Yeah, sure. Could they have resisted a lot more and in more public ways? Definitely.
Plus the owner is allegedly a racist bigoted POS. Proton might shield similarly-minded users, but anyone else, caveat utilitor.
stateofsurveillance.org/news/p…
Proton Mail Handed FBI Data That Unmasked Stop Cop City Protester - State of Surveillance
State of SurveillanceLenora
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •RalfMaximus
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Streaming services now use paid services to track how often torrents are downloaded, effectively treating piracy as another viewer metric. Just by torrenting it you're helping boost JKR's numbers. And alas, using a VPN won't change that.
There are many services, but one such tool is Piracymeter.
piracymeter.com/
Piracymeter: Advanced Anti-Piracy Monitoring and Protection for Movies and TV Series
piracymeter.comstux⚡️
in reply to RalfMaximus • • •@ralfmaximus True that but it won't contribute direct cash at least 😉
Gotta start somewhere
Nymnympseudonym
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •stux⚡️
in reply to Nymnympseudonym • • •Orb 2069
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Feels like the remake is for people who don't want to cope with the original cast rejecting Rowling.
I'm curious if they're going to downplay the "look, I'm a racist/classist/fatphobic piece of shit" notes in this one even further than the original ones, or if they're going to lean in even farther?
grrl_aex
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •"follows the books"
Harry's dad hanging the new Black Snape from a tree.
Ya. Rowlings *definitely* had a hand in casting this.
She's not *just* a transphobe. She a white supremacist bigot too.
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Carolyn
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •And John Lithgow as Dumbledore? I've lost respect for him for having taken the role, but though I used to like him as an actor, he is not Dumbledore. ;)
A lot was left out of the movies, so this is an opportunity to tell more of the story, but considering the author, its time should be done. I guess they think they can milk it further.
Verena Rupp
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Hot Dog Water
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Does she plan to teach a new generation of kids that only a 'man' and a 'woman' can have a child that they recklessly leave-behind while fighting the specters of their own creation, to be raised by child-slavers and sneaky serpents, who are the only ones that child can trust? And that kid's name is definitely not Jesus?
I admit, I quit watching after the werewolf one and never read them. Did I get it wrong?
DFX4509B (Joshua Mason)
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derptron
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •I bet Rowling did.
Someone with a whole lot of money did.
That's at least two souls...well...one maybe.
Eh...maybe you're right.
Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •my 5-year-old spotted Harry Potter branded Kinder eggs and wanted them. (She thought Harry was a witch, LOL).
I went: « No, we can’t have these because the person who created this character is very very bad and I don’t want her to earn even a cent from this sale »
So we got another kind 🥲
stux⚡️
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Nico van Leeuwen
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •stux⚡️
in reply to Nico van Leeuwen • • •@mrlionheart @_elena 😆 It's kinda funny if you read it that way
A little extreme but funny
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Dźwiedziu
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We do, it's just the corporate mainstream does not want new ideas, as they're “risky”.
@stux
Airis Damon
in reply to Dźwiedziu • • •@dzwiedziu @ruth_lowry Something you already know.
youtube.com/watch?v=UcawjG3L-j…
Rob Paravonian - Something You Already Know
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •I did enjoy the films on release despite some problematic elements and they certainly don't need to be remade for streaming or otherwise even if you don't consider the problematic author and where the profits will be going
As soon as I saw the transphobic and hate filled ramblings on twitter, it was instant boycott from me for anything by JK Rowling
That's it. She lost my support right there
I wouldn't even bother to download the stuff because potter just needs to be left to die
Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Zerotime
in reply to Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤 • • •Spider-Man's Presentation | Know Your Meme
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •even if she wasn't a TERF, Rowling is a billionaire. Which means she deserves to be boycotted for that alone.
#BoycottBillionaires #BoycottRowling
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