Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.
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If any party tailored that to run in the US, what kind of traction do you think it'd have?
My guess is, it would be laughed at and roundly ignored.
And THAT'S a damn shame.
f*cking b*tch club
in reply to Wm.son • • •@Sfwmson @OhWeh I disagree. Newly inaugurated NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani ran on much of that platform. He promised a rent freeze, free buses, and free childcare. He’s already gotten the childcare part done! (in his first 2 weeks…)
I believe younger candidates and younger voters are going to change the political landscape pretty much everywhere.
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Wm.son
in reply to f*cking b*tch club • • •@grammasaurus @OhWeh
I really really hope so.
I'm 65 and back in the day I figured the hippie generation would change the world... But they didn't.
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Lilly Hunter
in reply to Wm.son • • •@Sfwmson The hippies got usurped by the disco/yuppie culture. That's really the time point when every normal person started getting poorer as money was funnelled upwards.
@grammasaurus @OhWeh
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Sharon McCarthy
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •CJ
in reply to Sharon McCarthy • • •@ienvision @Sfwmson @grammasaurus @OhWeh
We are a brand and we can all be rich once day as long as we compete AGAINST each other.
Unions bunked, greed became the new "clever". And every instinct to not leech off 90% of society for an uncaring pantheon of people was labeled "socialist".
Capitalism means taking everything away from people and then blaming them for being poor. And then having the audacity to say Jesus would have been a capitalist.
Wm.son
in reply to CJ • • •@ChristianRiegel @ienvision @grammasaurus @OhWeh
I'm not religious at all but this is the part I don't understand at all. How can people who claim to be religious also support this kind of government?
The mental gymnastics they have to play to justify their following must be exhausting. Or they just don't care. I think that's the reason.
Sharon McCarthy
in reply to Wm.son • • •I read somewhere that the evangelicals who believe in the "end times" feel that Diaper Don is is their sign that the rapture is near...
Lilly Hunter
in reply to Sharon McCarthy • • •@ienvision Religious people believe all kinds of nonsense.
@Sfwmson @ChristianRiegel @grammasaurus @OhWeh
Lilly Hunter
in reply to Wm.son • • •@Sfwmson The culture segment in the US that has historically, and also now, made statements about the grind Polanski is detailing has been musicians. Of all colours. An unfortunate aspect of the American mind, however, is to see being 'down and out' as something temporary, missing that it is in fact a feature of the economic and social structures of that country.
@OhWeh
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in reply to Tim Panton • • •@steely_glint So is Zelensky. What's your point?
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Such an uplifting message and MHNA is such a great contrast to MAGA!!
I'm relieved to hear a voice of sanity in mainstream UK politics!!
Great marketing there, video very well done, kudos to the marketing team.
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •MegatronicThronBanks
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Yup, BREXIT really was a fuckwitted idea.
#rEUnion
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EF
in reply to MegatronicThronBanks • • •Debbie
in reply to EF • • •@EF @megatronicthronbanks
I'd like to disagree with you about this.
The person in charge of Brexit in the end was Boris Johnson who was one of the prominent people campaigning for Brexit. He campaigned on an oven ready deal that made him our prime minister with a HUGE majority. No opposition.
The top people leading the negotiations were all pro brexit people. They went in super confident thinking they held all the negotiating cards. The UK also chose to "put pressure on the EU" by triggering article 51.
I know a lot of Brexiters are saying that its the wrong type of Brexit but this is exactly was they wanted. We have left the EU with a minimal trade deal.
EF
in reply to Debbie • • •@debbie @megatronicthronbanks deeds speak louder than words.
Would add, not sure anyone expected Leave to win.
Lilly Hunter
in reply to EF • • •@EF They really didn't expect Leave to win, especially not Cameron, who called the referendum to appease UKIP. Having attached a lame, poorly promoted referendum on proportional representation onto a general election ballot, and having it fail as he wished, he assumed the same would hold true for Brexit. He hadn't reckoned with the offshore money people dumping millions into a facebook-led dirty campaign for Leave.
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Klarname (Holger Hellinger)
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •#altText4u
Zack Polanski speaking in the video talks about the work and commitment of ordinary people to this cause. As he does so, he runs faster and faster, with the camera repeatedly focusing on his trainers. He runs through scenes of an English town and eventually, unable to run any faster, he stops and says that we need this reset. He then explains how.
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How We Make Hope Normal Again- Green Party Political Broadcast
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in reply to Klarname (Holger Hellinger) • • •Angela Miller
in reply to Klarname (Holger Hellinger) • • •That's a very well put together piece of film with a very strong and simple message. Let's hope it resonates with a lot of people.
PaulaToThePeople 😷
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •#AltForYou:
Video of a guy talking while moving. First he talks about how everything feels overwhelming and you have to move fast to stay where you are economically while he walks. Then he talks about bigger, more systemic problems and that, to keep up, you have to move faster, while he runs. Then he tells us to stop running and see the bigger picture. He stops running, moves slowly and pants, while he says that all the wealth we create goes to the pockets of the super rich, which is a political failure and obscene. He says we have to elect leaders that serve the people, communities and nature, not the pockets of the obscenely rich. He ends with the slogan "make hope normal again".
#Alt4You #AltText #accessibility
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Tim Stickland
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •If you are outside the UK, you might not recognise Zak Polanski - recently elected as leader of the UK Green Party.
Great video, strong message.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Pol…
Zack Polanski - Wikipedia
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫
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The civil service aren't puppet-masters, they're administrators and workers who try to implement whatever policy, good or bad, the government dictates. They will advise about difficulties, but they are definitely not calling the shots; their advice is frequently ignored.
You can choose politicians who aren't puppets of the rich; that's the point of voting. Most people may not see that choice clearly, but that's the point of campaigning. Hence the video.
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in reply to Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫ • • •@petealexharris @EF Also, as someone who worked in and around politics before jumping to the grassroots side of things?
A thing people weirdly forget about politicians is that they're human beings with subjectivities, blind spots, and just personal limits. They flinch, they sometimes panic, they take shortcuts, they have really normal, run-of-the-mill human failure modes. It's really less frequent that someone is a puppet to a sinister master, and much more common that they're not playing to their strengths on something and bottled it.
Tattie
in reply to Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫ • • •It's like UK politicians have somehow managed to convince everyone that they're the ones with their hands tied, rather than the ones sitting on them.
@EF @LaChasseuse
Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫
in reply to Tattie • • •@Tattie @EF
100% this.
Yeah, for example Tory/UKIP politicians promising leaving the EU would result in things that were legally, practically and even logically impossible was a big part of the Brexit catastrophe, and the civil service weren't forcing them to do that. They were screaming into a pillow because they aren't allowed to oppose government policy politically no matter how stupid and doomed it is.
Lilly Hunter
in reply to Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫ • • •@petealexharris And then the Conservatives followed weirdo Dom Cummings' "innovative" advice and sacked most of the civil service. Like an early version of DOGE.
@Tattie @EF
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I know people who work in the civil service, and all I can say is that is not what's happening as far as they can tell.
But even if it was, instead of Labour you could vote for a party with progressive policy goals, who would have the civil service implement them, just as previous governments have done with disastrously regressive policies.
I don't think anyone praising this video is planning to vote Labour.
BashStKid
in reply to Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫ • • •@petealexharris @EF I also know a few civil servants, and no, they’re not a grey power behind the throne.
The problem is more subtle; when all the official & unofficial training says ‘find a way to work in partnership with the private sector”, & the private sector is full of friendly people looking to give help and experience and make you look good for the minister, you’ve been captured. And your ideas & the minister’s ideas are the same, because they’re thinking for both of you.
Lilly Hunter
in reply to BashStKid • • •@BashStKid And all three groups went to the same schools.
Luckily, the Greens fall outside that "chummy" parameter and are less likely to be swayed.
@petealexharris @EF
Lyndsay Barwell
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in reply to Lyndsay Barwell • • •@treehugger @EF
Yeah, but split the vote with who? There often won't be another progressive or even principled party running in a lot of seats, from a practical human rights position, so there's no viable lesser of two evils to be content with.
In previous elections that has always been a reasonable argument, but the last one broke the seal. Now we know the greens can win seats. All that can stop that happening is people talking themselves out of it.
Lilly Hunter
in reply to Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫ • • •@petealexharris The English have to turn out massively and vote Green this time! If nothing else, it will wake up the other parties.
@treehugger @EF
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in reply to Lyndsay Barwell • • •I'm 100% in favour of tactical voting to keep the fash out, so no judgement, your vote is your own 😀
Lyndsay Barwell
in reply to Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫ • • •Lilly Hunter
in reply to Lyndsay Barwell • • •@treehugger Many here in Scotland say "I didn't leave the Labour Party, the Labour Party left me"
@petealexharris @EF
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in reply to EF • • •@EF I think what makes the Greens different is precisely because they are not (yet) funded primarily by the very rich.
They will come under pressure to accept that money. It's much less work to fund raise a million pounds from just one ultra-rich #kleptocrat than from one hundred thousand ordinary people.
We'll see if they can continue to resist; #Labour have signally failed.
Awet Tesfaiesus, MdB
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Unknown parent • • •@holger @AwetTesfaiesus gestern den Kommentar von Özdemir gehört?
Mit den jetzigen Grünen ist keine wirtschaftskritische oder klassenkritische Politik zu erwarten.
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We're all working so hard to create wealth, just not for ourselves.
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Hello Englands Green Party. I have a request.
Swedens Green Party kind of fell asleep during math class (a bit over a decade ago). Would it be alright if they copied your notes?
lakritzbonbon
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •And those super rich still haven't enough money? That's ridiculous!
Solar🌄Garden
in reply to lakritzbonbon • • •Lilly Hunter
in reply to Solar🌄Garden • • •@wavesculptor Looks like an interesting account, thanks for the tip!
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Farage is to Trump what Polanski is to Mamdani?
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.
We need more than messages, other partys have broken most election promises.
Greens must stay firm in all respects or fail.
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in reply to frlan • • •@frlan @flohlaus @lobingera @holger
Frei nach Horkheimer: aus der Betrachtung der Zustände, folgen Analyse, Erkenntnis und dann Praxis.
BTW: Sitze gerade in Addis Abeba und schreibe mit Euch über Horkheimer. Hätte er sich vermutlich so auch nicht gedacht.
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •ProScience 🇪🇺
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Not from the UK and wouldn't vote for him, but nonetheless:
He's giving Mamdani vibes (messiging-wise).
Lilly Hunter
in reply to ProScience 🇪🇺 • • •If the English have any sense, they will vote Green in masses next time. All the other English parties are corrupt.
We are lucky in Scotland, because we have the SNP (who form the government) and the Scottish Greens (who support them).
ProScience 🇪🇺
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •No disrespect meant: Very possible clips like the above existed but didn't spread into my space.
As the English are mainly responsible for and still haven't learned the essentials from the Brexit disaster, I'm doubtful they will come to their senses—but what I see in polls is SNP is back, CP is front runner in Wales, LibDems + Greens have either overtaken or are level w/ the failures that are Tories + Labour.
And, sadly, Reform is a real threat.
Tactical voting is critical!
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Lilly Hunter
in reply to Solar🌄Garden • • •@wavesculptor Sounds like you are defining 'trickle down economics'
@proscience
Solar🌄Garden
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Solar🌄Garden
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •@proscience perhaps I should clarify: *parts* of the UK, also heavily populated, have such a high density of those working in "unethical" asset-stripping, fear-based, warmongering, environmentally destructive industries that they _are_ still able to function in the #trickleDown mode. Not universal, but enough so far. Maybe a tipping point if the green message can continue to be spread.
I've said this many times on here, but I can't understand why #Corbyn and the #greens cant work together.
Lilly Hunter
in reply to Solar🌄Garden • • •@wavesculptor The Labour Party has as a central doctrine that they do not work with other parties. They even have a name for it "The Bourne Doctrine".
Before Brexit, the three party leaders of the SNP, the Greens and Plaid Cymru reached out to Ed Milliband and said "Let's form a coalition to keep the Tories out of power."
He said categorically No.
So Cameron got in, Brexit happened and the rest is history.
@proscience
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Solar🌄Garden
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •@proscience Thanks for that definitive statement. But as #Corbyn was detatched from LabourParty, perhaps he can let go his inner-attatchment to the name. It aint what he joined long ago any more. And probably it will become history.
Surely he must remember that but for a full-blown rightwing media panic attack campaign against him, he was well on the way to become prime minister?
At the very least #ZackPolanski needs to learn from his experience, because this will surely happen to him too, when the levels of fear among the super-rich become sufficient.
DoubleTreble 🥰🇵🇸🌍🇺🇦😺💚🧶🫖
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Unknown parent • • •@axoln
Shut up and go fuck yourself.
*block*
secid 🇩🇪
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Billiglarper
in reply to secid 🇩🇪 • • •And Germany is different how?
secid 🇩🇪
in reply to Billiglarper • • •I do not see a lot of people working two jobs. You can easily spend time with your children. Work life balancy is (still) normal for an average worker.
Of course we have environmental problems but we improved a lot over the last decades and hopefully will improve further. E.g. it"s widely possible to swim in our canals and rivers including the biggest ones.
The picture drawn in the spot is much more dystopian.
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Billiglarper
in reply to secid 🇩🇪 • • •@secid
You might want to check your privilege.
Perhaps talk to some freelancers or minimum wage folks.
Sorry, don't have the time for a more detailed answer.
secid 🇩🇪
in reply to Billiglarper • • •I am a freelancer - by choice.
Lyndsay Barwell
in reply to secid 🇩🇪 • • •Lilly Hunter
in reply to Lyndsay Barwell • • •I think you may have to specify that you mean England - Scotland has separate, better-funded health and education (no tuition fees, for example) and record many young people are either in work, an apprenticeship or further education.
Scotland is investing in its future, by investing in its young people.
Sadly, not much better here with regard to the fatigue illnesses.
@secid @billiglarper
Lyndsay Barwell
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •As an aside, I'm from Canada and people there rarely say the UK, maybe great Britain if it's for sports. It's like the UK is not recognised as a country. After being in England for 15 years I've got used to saying the UK and have to remind myself that some things are just England.
Lilly Hunter
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in reply to Lyndsay Barwell • • •The debate was in North Bay of all places.
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •So frustrating though, that regular folk risk this getting drowned out by the right-wing smear campaign. Amazing how stuff sticks to folk on the left, but the shit just seems to roll off the right. Farage's Brexit should have be the end of him, not just a bump in the road.
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in reply to Awet Tesfaiesus, MdB • • •Awet Tesfaiesus, MdB
in reply to lobingera • • •@lobingera @frlan @flohlaus @holger ja.
Vielleicht haben wir unterschiedliche Vorstellungen von Wirtschaft.
Dizzy
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Awet Tesfaiesus, MdB
in reply to lobingera • • •lobingera
in reply to Awet Tesfaiesus, MdB • • •@AwetTesfaiesus @frlan @flohlaus @holger
„this isn’t just an economic failure, it’s a failure of leadership.“ ist für mich wirtschaftskritisch, aber vielen Dank für die Einordnung.
Dave Mc
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •I used to think that it's easy for minor parties to make claims. They don't have the experienced MPs or the economics to implement those changes. Now, it seems the major, old guard parties don't know what they're doing either. Is that because I'm getting older and more cynical? Or are they really getting worse?
Either way, I'm willing to try something new.
RantingCanuck
in reply to Dave Mc • • •@guigsy
The major, old guard, parties are not getting worse; we are just getting the world they wanted us to have.
IMHO in order for a minor party to be successful they need to forge a new path, using new techniques and even new economics, because the techniques and economics of the major parties are designed to benefit the super rich minority at the expense of the working class majority.
Awet Tesfaiesus, MdB
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Unknown parent • • •@melgu The Labour Party in the UK has been right-of-centre since Tony Blair and is currently further right than the Conservatives. 😬
Labels mean nothing anymore - perhaps they never have.
My favourite example is the Liberal Party in Canada, who are social democrats, socially liberal but fiscally clear in the centre - compared to the Liberal Party in Australia, who are a bunch of raging right-wing maniacs.
@phf
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Unknown parent • • •They walk the walk, they don't just talk the talk.
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Unknown parent • • •@phf IMO, his platform may well push the Overton Window leftwards again.
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Unknown parent • • •@chad @petealexharris @EF Oh, whoa, that's *wild*. I cannot even.
I hope the responsible party is being held to some standards, there, because yeah. *No to that.*
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Damn!...
powerful stuff.
Pēteris Krišjānis
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •End.
You have to deal with inherited racism and xenophobia for people to realise they are played.
Very powerful ad tho.
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •We should put the corresponding hashtags to this!
#Tax_the_rich #TaxBillionaires #ClimateJustice
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Lien Rag
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Not what happened in the rest of Europe.
Many Green activists are good people, but they usually don't have an ideological backbone.
That makes it hard to stand firm when push comes to shove.
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Lilly Hunter
in reply to Lien Rag • • •@lienrag I was involved with the Swedish Greens for a number of years after Chernobyl happened. Part of their ideology was that they were "neither left nor right" because they wanted to "go forward". This was a cute catch-phrase, but what it translated to was that they would collaborate with any other party in order to have the power to push environmental legislation.
That was a mistake. The Scottish Greens avoided this, they make clear that they are a party of the left.
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Stopping the running would work, and will work – but, as he said, only if we do it all at once. And there lies the problem!
Basically what he says is what Gary Stevenson keeps telling us: tax wealth, not work!
James Lees
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in reply to James Lees • • •If that party gets elected, these policies are given to the civil service to work out how they can be implemented. /1
Lilly Hunter
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •That work is not the party leader's job.
Hannah Grace
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in reply to Boris Barbour • • •So, no or very few votes for Labour in Scotland this time.
Boris Barbour
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in reply to Boris Barbour • • •@BorisBarbour Well, if Labour at "Westminster" loses all it's seats in Scotland and Wales, bringing in Andy from up north isn't going to help them much.
The SNP and likely also Plaid would definitely be up for a confidence and supply arrangement with the Greens if the numbers are looking right for that, so don't dismiss the Scottish and Welsh vote ➡️ 57 + 32 = 89 seats.
Boris Barbour
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in reply to Pam C • • •thelondoneconomic.com/politics…
New Green Party broadcast hailed as one of the best ever
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Unknown parent • • •@AI_Lazer You won't be aware of this Al, but Scotland passed legislation to protect the rights of trans people - with a cross party majority.
Then a billionaire author took them to an English court where the legislation was squashed.
@phf
AI Lazer
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in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Lien Rag
in reply to CoolBlenderKitten • • •It is indeed very good. Extremely good, even.
It doesn't change the facts that political ads are evil (as are ads in general).
Lilly Hunter
in reply to Lien Rag • • •@lienrag I wonder what your concept of democracy is, Lien? A political party setting out the policies they intend to pursue if elected is important information for voters in a democracy.
It's not a good idea to conflate policy ideas with products like soap. Please let's kill any impulse to do that. Because you know who does that? Farage. His "party" is actually a ltd company, he is running it for profit, and he has no public policies. He and his ilk are abusive.
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Lien Rag
in reply to Lilly Hunter • • •Of course it's important.
That's called a political program.
No need to make it in the form of an advertisement.
(I mean, yes, in the plutocracy that is the UK, I guess that he needed to do that in order to win elections, but we shouldn't let the immediate goal obscure the fact that advertisers should be sentenced to a few years of community service)
Lilly Hunter
in reply to Lien Rag • • •Too manipulative? Too emotional? - If you think that, you have never heard a reasonably talented politician give a speech. People cry.
Also, in Scotland and many other places the voting age is now 16 and up. That is why parties are turning to Tictok and other visual, phone-based media. That's where you reach the under 20s.