Hello EU people:

There is an EU citizen petition to ban the use of "conversion therapy" on LGBTQ+ folks (i.e., trying to de-LGBTQ us— a process often described as "torture"). If you're interested, you can sign it here:

eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/…

Please especially take note if you are a national of Spain, Slovenia, Belgium, or the Netherlands; the petition needs about 5x as many votes as it has now, but also needs to hit a threshold in four additional countries, and those are the four closest.

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In the time since I linked the petition* above, Ireland has gone from under 50% to above the threshold! Spain is also now getting very close.

siorc.eu/notes/a4885f3ath9b00p…

The petition is up overall 26,000 votes in the last ten days. I don't know whether it can hit a million by May, but turning more countries green definitely sounds viable.

* The petition asks the EU to ban pseudo-psychological practices purporting to "convert" gay and trans people to straights. Yes, that's a thing, and it's cruel.

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@dandylover1 I don't have any information about to what extent it is happening in Europe today. When we banned it in California there were people offering it as parts of normal psychiatric services (when I lived in CA we didn't ban it proper, just outlawed it being done by anyone who is licensed as or advertising themselves as offering health services)
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EU citizens, if you want in while you can, there's a EU citizen's petition for the EU to ban "conversion therapy" (this is as ominous as it sounds) of LGBTQs, with 7 days left to sign.

It will not make the threshold, but might be able to rack up a few more country thresholds— I'm happy to note Spain just hit it. Belgium and The Netherlands are the next best bets as they're over 65%; If you know queer-friendly folks in those countries, maybe a good time to forward this:

eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/…

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Okay big news on the EU citizen petition to ban the use of "conversion therapy" (IE "curing" or perhaps "torturing into submission") on LGBTQs—

BE, NL and SI came through and last night the initiative *met* the 7 countries goal! It needs 330,000 more signatures before the 17th to pass, which sounds rough, but it's got *420,887* in just 5 days, so things are actually on a good pace. This will at least be really close, and this could happen!

EU citizens can sign at: eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/…

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It is 7 AM CEST. The EU citizen initiative calling for a ban on "conversion therapy" (here meaning, pseudoscientific attempts to "cure" LGBTQs) is less than 250,000 votes from success. This is astounding, the votes have like, *tripled* in a week.

The page says voting ends "May 17", and I wish I knew if that meant "at midnight tonight" or "midnight tomorrow" or what. Uh. Do you know

Germany is ~6,000 local votes from endorsing it. Are there 6,000 Germans on this website

eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/…

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OKAY WOW. WOW. THE WHOLE THING WHILE I WAS SLEEPING. WOW.

The EU citizen initiative petitioning the European Parliament to outlaw "conversion therapy" ("curing" LGBTs via torture) has met its threshold (1M votes and 8 countries supporting).

One week ago I sincerely thought y'all wouldn't make it. Amazing work Europe (and hi5 Germany, now country 8).

This is an incredible statement at a time the US/UK govt are forcing conversion (medical detransition) for trans minors.

eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/…

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UPDATE: Nine. 9 countries. Sweden passed the threshold *while I was writing that last post*.

The "end of the collection period" is May 17 (so seven hours from now… plus 24 if the person who told me it's *EOD* May 17 is correct) so if you're an EU national you can still vote to run up the numbers and convince EU Parliament you're serious. Also:

- If 4,343 Italians sign, it's ten countries endorsing
- 5,308 Austrians makes it eleven
- 6,794 from Portugal makes it twelve

eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/…

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ANOTHER UPDATE: About three minutes ago on the website, France literally hit 1000% support for the anti-"Conversion Therapy" initiative. France really showed up here, with ten times the threshold support FR is literally half the supporters on this initiative. Apparently the people of France really, REALLY don't want their trans friends medically tortured

(if this is a boost, see upthread for explanation)

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There are ~7 hours left in the EU citizens initiative ( eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/… ) asking the EU parliament to ban "conversion therapy" (pseudo-medical efforts to "cure" queers). It's at 1.2 million votes over 1 million; surplus votes are good because some votes may be disqualified, so EU nationals, it's still worth voting!

One thing I notice, it looks like DENMARK and CROATIA are *so* close to passing— under 1000 votes each. Does anyone here know how to inject a message in the Danish internet?

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I gave it a shot: mastodon.online/@atjn/11452402…

Seems like the Danish channels are already flooded with posts about it, maybe there arent enough danes on Mastodon yet?

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@Princess Dalius @mcc Even though Germany has passed its threshold, signatures from Germany still count!

We must reach a total of 1 mio for success.

There're only 47.000 missing at this time (14:18) and it doesn't mapper from which country the come.

So if you haven't already signed: Do it now, activate all your friends.

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@ArbreAdri @VickForcella So that's two people so far who were not able to get the Dutch auth system to work…

Don't feel obligated, but would you mind contacting the "Contact us" link at this page citizens-initiative.europa.eu/… (nederlandse version here I think? citizens-initiative.europa.eu/… ) and letting them know your experience? 2 votes on 1 petition aren't such a big deal, but it seems like the site should not be breaking for certain countries selectively…

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EUpol: Ban on LGBTQ+ "conversion" (medical or religious torture) practices

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IMHO, diminishing how people should/want to be treated to biology seems like a really bad take, no matter how many sexes there are (or are not).

And that's before we note that there are a lot of social conventions that have nothing to do with biology that affect how we are socially treated: how cleaners/janitors, hobos, nobility, royalty, and priesthood get separate considerations, or teachers, doctors (MD and otherwise), judges; are we married etc.

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I was reading the petition demands that are rightly detailed.

I started wondering whether "Provide a clear, precise and comprehensive definition of conversion practices, which shall cover all practices that seek to change [...] a person's [...] gender identity [...]" could be misinterpreted (wilfully, perhaps) by some as including voluntarily-chosen HRT for trans people that has a positive rather than negative psychological effect, unlike what this is combatting.

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