Donald Trump may just cost Canada’s Conservatives the election
Donald Trump may just cost Canada’s Conservatives the election
The President’s bombastic rants leave Pierre Poilievre’s party in an unenviable positionMichael Coren (The Telegraph)
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in reply to anachronist • • •The only upside of Trump's presidency is that it is a stark warning to other democracies around the world that it could very well happen to them also soon, and they'd better get their shit together before it does.
Hungary should have been a warning sign, but the US is a lot more visible and a lot more frightening when it falls into this trap.
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in reply to rbn • • •Well, Germany has the same problem as the US: Musk.
Elon has been pouring his support (and god knows how much illicit money) behind the AfD, to get fascists elected there. Same in Canada, same in the UK.
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in reply to anachronist • • •Well I don't know, have Canadians considered that their liberals aren't perfect so they should fight tooth and nail to make sure the alt right gets elected instead?
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in reply to RaskolnikovsAxe • • •Election reform, for one.
What does that have to do with anything.
RaskolnikovsAxe
in reply to NoneOfUrBusiness • • •Your comment stated that Trudeau was a pathological liar, but he's better than the 'alt right'. I assume alt right refers to the PPC, not the CPC, and I assumed you made THAT comparison (LPC to PPC), skipping over CPC, because you support the CPC.
My assumption about your CPC support may be incorrect, but it sure seems to be buttressed by the fact that you stated that Trudeau is an egregious liar, when in reality his dishonesty is no worse than many other politicians, and in regard to bold faced lies about facts (as opposed to, say, broken election promises) he's nowhere near as bad as Poilievre.
This why I asked you if you could identify any of Poilievre's many lies, misinformation, or disinformation. Because I suspected you might avoid answering it, as you predictably did. And given that the entire post and originating article is about the CPC, I don't think it's really off topic to ask about them. So, can you tell me where Poilievre has lied?
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in reply to RaskolnikovsAxe • • •Did you make that assumption on your own or is that just how it works in Canada? If it's the latter then I guess it's my fault for using words I don't fully understand, but either way my man (or woman or whatever) chill the fuck out. This is actual paranoia. Also note that the guy I replied to also said alt-right, so seriously just... what?
To make that clear, I do not support the CPC. I don't care about or follow Canadian politics enough to pick a team, so to speak, but even I can tell that PP is a snake oil salesman. And if you're wondering what I'm doing in !Canada, I came here from /all and replied with what I do know from the Trudeau resignation debacle.
... show moreMaking a promise and then actively and intentionally breaking it is bold-faced lying. Again how he compares to PP is irrelevant here; this is a Lemmy thread not a vot
Did you make that assumption on your own or is that just how it works in Canada? If it's the latter then I guess it's my fault for using words I don't fully understand, but either way my man (or woman or whatever) chill the fuck out. This is actual paranoia. Also note that the guy I replied to also said alt-right, so seriously just... what?
To make that clear, I do not support the CPC. I don't care about or follow Canadian politics enough to pick a team, so to speak, but even I can tell that PP is a snake oil salesman. And if you're wondering what I'm doing in !Canada, I came here from /all and replied with what I do know from the Trudeau resignation debacle.
Making a promise and then actively and intentionally breaking it is bold-faced lying. Again how he compares to PP is irrelevant here; this is a Lemmy thread not a voting station.
Okay just to be clear, you'll find that many people will avoid answering this question, because again that's not what I was talking about. This sort of shibboleth ideological purity nonsense can get really annoying even if you're on the "right" side.
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in reply to anachronist • •Hmmmm I’m just remembering that Justin Trudeau at least twice mentioned in his ‘tariffs’ speech how they might affect US Orange juice imports into Canada!
That euphomism missed me at that time!
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in reply to anachronist • • •I don't know. Listening to PP on the radio the other day was, as usual, brain cell melting.
"We are under attack from the south! They are putting America first! Therefore We need to"put Canada First!" (Not a direct quote, was a soundbite on the 4pm CBC news radio as best I recall it)
Sir... When your idiot neighbours are in a democratic spiral to hell, maybe DON'T try and steal their slogans. I'm no political analyst but it's ....possible... the strategies they are using are at best ineffective.
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in reply to BonesOfTheMoon • • •Every. Damned. Time.
The biggest thing the Reds offer is a blocking action against the blue.
The best thing we had, and we'll look back on in the future, is when Mr Singh patiently and calmly leveraged a minority red government in support of slowly providing for regular people.
... and then he stopped doing it patiently or calmly and fell into a big pit of ego and special interest; but before that it was the most leverage he and his party had for improving regular people in a long time. I don't expect the oranges to be in a similar position for years to come, unfortunately.
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in reply to anachronist • • •Oh, thank god.
And I say that even as an atheist.
Conservatism is the most bigoted, corrupt, anti-democratic and downright anti-human political system out there. It has only two purposes:
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in reply to anachronist • • •Poilievre has an incredibly lucky moment right now. Never has a Canadian leader had a moment like this, in the last century, maybe ever. He has a fantastically weak Liberal leader that has dragged his party down, and a disastrous US leader who threatens Canada. All Poilievre has to do is step in front of all of this and present a unifying vision. But he can't do it. He's incapable of being a leader. He can't seem to put his petty politics of anger aside and face the reality that the country has an existential threat and that the priorities have changed. Even when he proposes something reasonable (Arctic defense) he has to borrow a Trump move to get there (decimate foreign aid, even though soft power and diplomacy is the reason we have any friends at all right now). He is the very epitome of short term, ideological thinking. Ultimately he represents the populist right wing that will exacerbate wealth inequality and the resulting oligarchy..and we can all see the endgame of this movement playing out to the south of us.
No fucking thank you.