Amazing. W (I kid you not): A bunch of VC-funded European Big Tech assholes attempting to rewrite history by erasing the federated European alternatives that already exist to create their own centralised, surveillance-ridden X clone.
Same shit, different flag.
And I’m sure the usual fools will flock to it the moment it’s ready.
Fuck these people.
#EU #bullshit #W #BigTech #surveillance #capitalism #peopleFarming @nicolasvivant colter.social/@nicolasvivant/1…
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It's real.
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in reply to Aral Balkan • • •W Social ? Wsocial? Be social! Use Mastodon!
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in reply to Toon • • •Maybe this is also a good time to consider supporting your mastodon instance.
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I support mine, since I administrate/moderate/pay for it 😀
Ketata Mohamed 🐧💻🎮
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •but yeah, they are becoming worse & worse each day, I am using fb since 2008 and if you compare what I remember with the current state, you'll seriously question why all Tunisians are there, well, most of them anyway
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in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Truly regarded 🤣
Unfortunately they seem to be Swedes?
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in reply to Aral Balkan • • •when will non-techies learn the answer to Big Tech is not MORE Big Tech
its like reaching for another pair of soiled underpants
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in reply to Normie 🇺🇸 • • •“The only thing that can stop a bad billionaire with a social media site is a good billionaire with a social media site”
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in reply to SigueFedi ⁂ • • •FediThing
in reply to SigueFedi ⁂ • • •They're fascists then? Surely that's what the hat means?
David T.
in reply to FediThing • • •Aral Balkan
in reply to David T. • • •FediThing
in reply to David T. • • •No, we want European infrastructure to be controlled by ordinary Europeans, not multinational corporations.
VC startups are only set up to be sold out to the highest bidder, which is usually outside Europe. VCs don't care what happens to their startup, they just want to sell out and get the money.
Other problems with W are:
-They're using fascist phrases and clothing
-They're erasing Mastodon from history
-They're centralised with all the problems that brings (list of them at fedi.tips/why-is-the-fediverse… ).
Why is the Fediverse on so many separate servers? | Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
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David T.
in reply to FediThing • • •FediThing
in reply to David T. • • •The purpose of connecting people isn't to make money, it's to provide vital infrastructure.
VCs are the wrong vehicle for vital infrastructure.
Look at the sheer scale of electoral interference through Meta and Twitter/X. Musk especially is using Twitter/X to promote fascists.
These are failures, they are failing society and even getting people killed ( theguardian.com/technology/202… ).
"I don't think governments and institutions have the risk appetite for stuff like this. "
The costs of building something like the Fediverse are absolutely tiny (some prices for scale: masto.host/pricing ).
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in reply to FediThing • • •FediThing
in reply to David T. • • •@davidt @fedi
The incentives for VCs are all wrong on social media and internet services, the ownership structure inevitably leads to "enshittification" as @pluralistic has documented in great detail.
They provide a wonderful service to hook people in, then once people are locked in they degrade the service to the point where it's much worse and more expensive than the original alternatives.
We don't need VCs to be controlling things, they misuse that control.
David T.
in reply to FediThing • • •FediThing
in reply to David T. • • •The telephone network is decentralised, as is the email network and the postal network. When it existed, the telegraph networks were also decentralised. You don't need one corporation controlling everything for global networks to connect together.
Even Facebook and Google used to use a decentralised messaging standard called XMPP that allowed people outside the network to message their members, but they decided to abandon this for commercial reasons. Goverments could have easily forced them to continue.
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in reply to David T. • • •@davidt @woe2you @fedi
"I am not convinced social media in any form (including this) is healthy for humans."
Ah well that's another issue, I'd tend to agree with you on that one. It is maybe an even more difficult problem to solve!
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in reply to SigueFedi ⁂ • • •Fabio Manganiello
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •it’s surreal how these folks would throw any new corporate crap at us while ignoring the literal elephant in the room - that ActivityPub has already proved its point and they just need to run their instances.
–EDIT–
Oh, a closer look points to something interesting:
So how do you prevent anonymous accounts and bots?
Simple, with online identity verification!
That’s why they ignore ActivityPub 🙂
They’re trying to sell us the solution for an existential problem that they have created themselves around an emergency that doesn’t exist.
At this point any Trojan horse that can get EU citizens to swallow online identity verification can work. And if they can edulcolorate with a “but it’s a European sovereign social network!” (even
... Show more...it’s surreal how these folks would throw any new corporate crap at us while ignoring the literal elephant in the room - that ActivityPub has already proved its point and they just need to run their instances.
–EDIT–
Oh, a closer look points to something interesting:
So how do you prevent anonymous accounts and bots?
Simple, with online identity verification!
That’s why they ignore ActivityPub 🙂
They’re trying to sell us the solution for an existential problem that they have created themselves around an emergency that doesn’t exist.
At this point any Trojan horse that can get EU citizens to swallow online identity verification can work. And if they can edulcolorate with a “but it’s a European sovereign social network!” (even if the ID verification mechanisms still rely on Google’s and Apple’s operating systems) then why not give it a try? 😄
W launches as a verified alternative to X in Europe
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Aslak Raanes
in reply to Fabio Manganiello • • •@fabio And it seems like they are going to rely on AI for moderation/filtering and will not ban accounts. I guess fascist would be ok.
The clip where the CEO say they won't ban people youtube.com/clip/UgkxOqOEys_yr…
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in reply to Aral Balkan • • •More #techshit to compost.
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techshit – #OMN (Open Media Network)
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in reply to Aral Balkan • • •But they don't want a federated alternative owned by nobody, they want a government panopticon that they own and control themselves, not some decentralized un-owned un-controlable alternative.
I will not be registering, certainly.
Justin Fitzsimmons
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in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Mx. Eddie R
in reply to Bob Mottram ✅ • • •But what if we build *our own* homegrown torment nexus?
Aral Balkan
in reply to Mx. Eddie R • • •Mx. Eddie R
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Tested very high on the exploitability scale!
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in reply to Aral Balkan • •EU: 'We're switching to Linux and LibreOffice to get rid of Big Tech!
Also EU: 'We're spying on you like Big Tech when viable social media alternatives already exist in the Fediverse!'
Lemme guess, the EU is going to drop Linux and LibreOffice for their own 'Windows' and their own 'Office' that's completely proprietary and incompatible with everything else next?
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