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in reply to Glide

Running it offline does avoid some of the censorship, but not all. Let me explain: Failsafes are implimented to check what topics are being talked about (like tieneman square). These are not included inside the model itself (though it does have a type of post-training, reinforcement-based censorship applied to the finished model). This second type of censorship (the kind actually included in the model weights) can actually be removed by retraining using similar reinforcement techniques. This means that the
Tldr is:
There is censorship baked into the model but because the weights are public, it can be removed /bypassed. In contrast the deepseek web app includes both kinds of censorship (and also definitely steals your data). The local model obviously does not.
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in reply to Honse

My local version spat out this:

Of course, let me explain. In 1989, there were significant pro-democracy demonstrations in Beijing's Tiananmen Square, led primarily by students and other citizens advocating for reforms. The Chinese government, in response, took actions that resulted in a tragic loss of life and a strong suppression of the protests. It's a complex and sensitive topic in Chinese history. Do you have any specific aspects you'd like to discuss further?

Deepseek R1 is the least censored model that I've tried. It does a lot less of the "As an AI assistant, I can't help with unethical whatever" compared to the corporate approved US ones too.

in reply to metaStatic

You're right, the server, cryptographic library, and all clients are open source.

That said, I have a few personal caveats.

  1. US government funding and markings are all over Signal.
  2. The official app doesn't make it clear how to connect to a custom server. As a self hosting enthusiast myself, I only found out it was possible when checking on your claim that it's all open source.
in reply to Viri4thus

They didn't "pay vassalage to trump". They spewed the same libertarian tech bro bullshit that most companies trying to cozy up to a new administration did. And the damage control responses align with that.

It isn't particularly good. But on the list of "privacy" corporations that are potentially honeypots, they still rank fairly low.

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NuXCOM_90Percent

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NuXCOM_90Percent

I am not making arguments for US politics. I am not here to give you "something (you) can use in future discussion with others"

I am telling you that you have no evidence whatsoever but you are spewing bullshit. You are just as bad as trump making up bullshit about how he read a report that nuking a hurricane would solve all problems. Your argument is literally "I think I heard somewhere"

We are all scared. We are all trying to protect ourselves. Maybe you can be an ally instead of an agitator, hmm?

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NuXCOM_90Percent

There was a blog post by a website called Privacy Watchdog (if I remember correctly), I can’t find that website anymore nor the blog post,


Yeah. And trump totally read an article somewhere that black trans people are the root of all evil. He can't find it right now, but totally trust him on that.

I don't know if you are just this stupid or if you are actually trying to undermine those who are trying to make educated decisions on what they should or should not "trust" communication wise (you'll note that I all but say "don't trust proton. protect yourself").

But either find that mystery article so that people can make educated decisions or shut the fuck up.

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NuXCOM_90Percent

in reply to cyrano

Where do I even start with this?

  1. Privacyguides.org exists for this purpose.
  2. Why non-US?
  3. This document is hosted on a US-based tech monopoly website, completely unnecessarily. It's just a markdown document.
  4. A lot of these suggestions are just bad. Deepseek? Is possibly the least private service on the web. I realize you can self-host it but that distinction is imperative and yet omitted.
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in reply to Ulrich

All three browsers recommended are Chromium-based as well, so they're dependent on Google and have to suffer from the Manifest v3 problem and the necessary manual intervention. Brave even is known for being maintained by a dick. Some of those recommendations are really bad.

Don't get your second question though. The reasons for non-US should be obvious.