Mozilla has a new CEO who:
- Has been at Mozilla for less than a year
- Has no prior open source experience (but well in "fintech" and "real estate")
- Has a MBA (aka "brainworm diploma")
- Is all-in on AI
That’s exactly the kind of bingo profile the whole community has been waiting for.
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Yet the EU could commit to supporting such endeavor at virtually no extra cost (the amount of money they handle is unimaginable –the ECB alone has a balance sheet of over 7000000000000€).
But given that merz and macron's delegations at the digital "sovereignty" summit in Berlin declared that "Open-source [...] can play an important role [...] provided [...] high cybersecurity standards [...] complemented by reliable proprietary technologies.", that ain't gonna happen.
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I mean, as long as we all agree to imagine the same sum, it works.
That's literally how money works.
David Gerard
in reply to ggdupont • • •@gdupont a large enough organisation with money for developers
it's not a bedroom project
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What if we get a lot of bedrooms?
(Which still won't be enough, but I couldn't resist the joke.)
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Perfection, no notes ^_^J
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in reply to David Gerard • • •Arguably, Firefox is a *finished* project and all it really needs is maintenance. For that, you'd need a *lot* of testing infrastructure and infosec and development people to keep on top of vulnerabilities. It's unlikely to be *enormously* expensive, but will need an ongoing, continuous, reliable budget and functioning-adult management.
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in reply to David Gerard • • •@davidgerard @gdupont The EU should fork it and make it their official "websites should work on this" browser if they ever get their head out of their asses and stop being cowards.
Same for Linux mobile phones (of which #SailfishOS is the only serious option for now).
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in reply to Jesse • • •@jessta @gdupont So $10M / yr per EU member. Or a bit more if you pass the hat to EFTA + UK as well.
Small price to pay for a key piece of digital sovereignty.
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in reply to Adam • • •@adamsaidsomething @sticklandtim Btw: Vivaldi’s forum has a wild modding scene, the UI code seems to be not obfuscated: forum.vivaldi.net/topic/16684/…
But this is missing the point: There is no FLOSS license.
Inspecting the Vivaldi UI with DevTools
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"The Vivaldi UI is truly what makes the browser unique. As such, it is our most valuable asset in terms of code. We don't publish it under an open-source license and only release obfuscated versions of it"
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in reply to ploum • • •Mozilla's last words:
"Destruct Sequence One, Code One, One-A."
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in reply to ploum • • •Agreed...
However I am a EEE who has been in software for 20yrs and have an MBA from INSEAD.
We are not all evil morons. I have made it my mission to defend and stand up for engineers in the companies I worked for. It has been a success to do so.
About 30-40% of INSEAD MBAs are engineers.
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You ask as if it's disappeared?.
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in reply to ploum • • •it's amazing(ly sad) how every decision mozilla made so far was horrible, and out of touch.
we really need engineers to be at the helm of software again
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in reply to ploum • • •What's most irritating: He talks about building the only Browser people can trust (well, OK)... and that's why they'll integrate more AI.
WAT?
It's like saying, we have the perfect fridge and that's because there's a wonderful cozy heater build right in.
AI and trust are not working together. At all.
If you want me to distrust and therefore avoid your product: Just put AI into it.
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Unknown parent • • •@Lemmus I don't read anything about being a foundation member there.
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in reply to ploum • • •tbh I'm not sure it changes anything for me. Mozilla was dead to me many years ago at this point.
But I guess things are never in a vacuum. Powers already at Mozilla wanted this person and made it even more clear what they value
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Unknown parent • • •@Lemmus @genodeftest I bet if there was a sudden rise in individual contributions from people opposed to so-called AI in Firefox, google would just increase its own funding to steer the Mozilla foundation right where they want it.
In the fucking ground.
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Unknown parent • • •@loptimist @Cwiiis @brouhaha It's not that open source necessarily means it's good or can be trusted.
It's that private enterprise necessarily means it's bad and can't be trusted.
Being open source is a necessary condition not a sufficient one.
Flow just failed the lowest bar.
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in reply to ploum • • •come on, I would give him the benefits of the doubts and not draw a conclusion before seeing what he is going to accomplish.
Here's a comment from him or reddit: reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/…
I was positively surprised by that comment, I hope it won't be the last one.
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in reply to ploum • • •@librewolf has you covered!
We desperately need the same for thunderbird though.