It may be that not all instances are federating in both directions yet. You can send something from Gotosocial to one of the test communities (e.g. !test@feddit.org , but lemmy.world may also have one) if you want to test it further.
OP won't see your image unfortunately, because of a difference in how embeds are handled (Mastodon's use of image attachments to Lemmy's use of MarkDown has been fixed in one direction, but not the other).
@Andrew Between Lemmy and Friendica (this account), all pictures are now even federated in the replies.
This is what it looks like from here:
Between Lemmy and Mastodon /Sharkey currently only a maximum of one picture in the OP. But it seems to be possible in principle. Since last year, a lot more has been working between Lemmy and the other Fediverse.
To be more precise: At the moment only in one direction (Lemmy > Friendica) all images are displayed. This is how it looks in Friendica: anonsys.net/display/bf69967c-7…
@Andrew Between Lemmy and Friendica (this account), all pictures are now even federated in the replies.
This is what it looks like from here:
Between Lemmy and Mastodon /Sharkey currently only a maximum of one picture in the OP. But it seems to be possible in principle. Since last year, a lot more has been working between Lemmy and the other Fediverse.
So this is a test post you ask users to repost? And by you, I mean a paid writer for Heise, a commercial business? Looks to me at best as a meaningless test post, at worst an unpaid ad for your employer.
How is this not spam and why should I not remove this from !fediverse@lemmy.world?
PS: Note that merely downvoting is not an argument. Reply with an argument if you think that's a worthwhile post to a Lemmy community.
Well, the ad for my employer (as an WP-link) came from you, didn't it?
This is not the first such post: I have a tool, that makes it simple to later visualize from where the reactions came. social.heise.de/@mho/112965913… I think it's quite interesting to compare the promise of the #Fediverse (reach so many different networks) with the reality (it's mainly #Mastodon). And this is a good way, I think. On the other hand, this posts do show, how far your content can go.
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Even at the third attempt, it's almost only #Mastodon, from where I see shares. But that again just underscores the dominance of Mastodon.
Well, the ad for my employer (as an WP-link) came from you, didn’t it?
You posted from that commercial domain, Wikipedia is non-commercial.
And this is a good way, I think.
That's a weak argument for why your post isn't spam. We here at Lemmy did not agree beforehand to participate in your experiment how far your commercial posts reach.
Seems like your primary interest is to measure commercial reach and so far you made no argument to the contrary. I'm not against commercial content in the Fediverse. In fact, I'm in favor on giving users the choice what they follow and what they don't follow but that question hasn't been asked by you here. You just made your post and all ~30k subscribers here are the lap rats for your experiment.
Mastodon users mindlessly tagging entire Lemmy communities are a common annoyance and if your analytics tool is the same as in the past, it doesn't even register any interactions from there anyway, making your experiment even more pointless but not really a pity to me that Lemmy is invisible to your advertisers:
Honestly, please tell me more about how I can commercialize this posts. This would make it easier for me to justify all I'm doing here out of interest and goodwill towards #Mastodon etc. Mainly in my freetime, if I may add... (I'm using this account, because this is the one for technical stuff and it has greater reach)
I didn't "mindlessly" tag the Lemmy community, but because I knew, that otherwise it would be very difficult to spread over there.
I think you misunderstood the request to "share" there. They're most likely talking about boosts, Mastodon's version of Twitter's retweets. Lemmy, I think, doesn't implement boosts. So it makes sense you would interpret it differently from the rest of the fediverse.
Basically, this isn't a call to repost. It's essentially just asking to upvote and boost and OP can then see from where those interactions came.
why should I not remove this from !fediverse?
It's on topic and your community has no rule against test/experimental posts.
Your community might want some additional rules if these kinds of posts are undesired. Like a low effort rule maybe. Or a rule against posts asking for upvotes and similar actions. A quick look at lemmy.world's site-wide rules didn't look like such a rule is there.
I think you misunderstood the request to “share” there. They’re most likely talking about boosts, Mastodon’s version of Twitter’s retweets. Lemmy, I think, doesn’t implement boosts.
It doesn't, making the posting to Lemmy completely pointless, even if it wasn't a commercial experiment. Cross-posts don't count as boosts.
Whoa, dude, aren't we aggressive Today? So if someone is posting from a Mastodon instance set up by his employer, during the weekend (!) you think it's automatically an Ad? No, don't stop at this, call it SPAM. Seriously?
If the contents is meaningless in your eyes, is this a reason to get that unfriendly? I mean there are so much more meaningless and btw. non positive vibe posts around, and particularly this is where you get out your fork?
I would understand when you complain about the "please repost" part (personally I'd chill about that as well), but your tone and attitude is something I do not appreciate.
@woelkchen as someone who has been moderating online communities for about 28 years now, let me suggest, that you reconsider how you moderate a community. You are the one with power in this conversation and we all want people to participate in the Fediverse. It is not upon a user to provide you with a perfect reason to participate, a moderator has to provide a really good reason as to why he deletes something. Being grumpy today isn't enough.
When viewing the post on pixelfed.de I can see two comments from pixelfed.de users and one from pixelfed.social, yet I don't see them federated to Mastodon or Lemmy.
noice ! I was thinking about creating something similar, but it's seems that I'm a bit to late. If we want to counter Meta and offer decent EU social media, agnostic broadcast protocols are a key element.
With 100 more the picture desn't change that much: #Matodon clearly in the lead, but it absolutely shows, that is possible to reach an audience beyond that in the #Fediverse. Not to forget, there were many many many likes in #Lemmy before the post was deleted at lemmy.world.
I shared in my other masto acct but I dont think masto posts show up in pixelfed feeds - its a different set of tech, but they might sometimes. Eg @subfm can be seen in pixelfed and in masto. I saw the subfm post in pixelfed but wanted to follow in masto and they have the same posts in both.
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in reply to Martin Holland • • •Only the first paragraph is a bit too long for the heading field in Lemmy. Therefore, the heading is displayed truncated.
This is what it looks like:
lemmy.world/post/24186737
I should perhaps add this to my guide.
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Will you write something about it at Heise?
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in reply to caos • • •Thx. I have no article planned, but it's good to know this, if something comes up.
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in reply to caos • • •Tried, looks like it's not showing up. Oh well.
I'm not seeing any GoToSocial posts in Lemmy world or piefed. But I can see them within GoToSocial and a separate mastodon adjacent instance.
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in reply to mesamune • • •You can send something from Gotosocial to one of the test communities (e.g. !test@feddit.org , but lemmy.world may also have one) if you want to test it further.
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in reply to cmgvd3lw • • •I assume the post will federate but not the comments idk tho
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in reply to ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed • • •OP won't see your image unfortunately, because of a difference in how embeds are handled (Mastodon's use of image attachments to Lemmy's use of MarkDown has been fixed in one direction, but not the other).
For anyone wondering what the image was, it's here: lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/…
Also, since I'm not replying directly to OP, I think I also have to do this: @mho@social.heise.de
caos
in reply to Andrew • • •@Andrew Between Lemmy and Friendica (this account), all pictures are now even federated in the replies.
This is what it looks like from here:
Between Lemmy and Mastodon /Sharkey currently only a maximum of one picture in the OP. But it seems to be possible in principle.
Since last year, a lot more has been working between Lemmy and the other Fediverse.
caos
in reply to caos • • •To be more precise: At the moment only in one direction (Lemmy > Friendica) all images are displayed.
This is how it looks in Friendica: anonsys.net/display/bf69967c-7…
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in reply to Martin Holland • • •It's showing up on Lemmy fine. However, I think I need to create a post filter for hashtags or cross-site posts somehow.
#If #I #wanted #to #see #shortform #socialmedia #posts #i #would #use #the #proper #site #for #it ... #testicles #wwjd #nascar
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in reply to Martin Holland • • •So this is a test post you ask users to repost? And by you, I mean a paid writer for Heise, a commercial business? Looks to me at best as a meaningless test post, at worst an unpaid ad for your employer.
How is this not spam and why should I not remove this from !fediverse@lemmy.world?
PS: Note that merely downvoting is not an argument. Reply with an argument if you think that's a worthwhile post to a Lemmy community.
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Well, the ad for my employer (as an WP-link) came from you, didn't it?
This is not the first such post: I have a tool, that makes it simple to later visualize from where the reactions came.
social.heise.de/@mho/112965913…
I think it's quite interesting to compare the promise of the #Fediverse (reach so many different networks) with the reality (it's mainly #Mastodon). And this is a good way, I think. On the other hand, this posts do show, how far your content can go.
Martin Holland (@mho@social.heise.de)
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woelkchen
in reply to Martin Holland • • •You posted from that commercial domain, Wikipedia is non-commercial.
That's a weak argument for why your post isn't spam. We here at Lemmy did not agree beforehand to participate in your experiment how far your commercial posts reach.
Martin Holland
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This is our #instance on #Mastodon, not exactly the same like heise.de. But the same domain, that's right.
I don't argue, that you set your rules. But I still don't see, how this could be considered spam..
Martin Holland
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Isn't this directly about the #Fediverse?
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in reply to Martin Holland • • •Seems like your primary interest is to measure commercial reach and so far you made no argument to the contrary. I'm not against commercial content in the Fediverse. In fact, I'm in favor on giving users the choice what they follow and what they don't follow but that question hasn't been asked by you here. You just made your post and all ~30k subscribers here are the lap rats for your experiment.
Mastodon users mindlessly tagging entire Lemmy communities are a common annoyance and if your analytics tool is the same as in the past, it doesn't even register any interactions from there anyway, making your experiment even more pointless but not really a pity to me that Lemmy is invisible to your advertisers:
Martin Holland
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Honestly, please tell me more about how I can commercialize this posts. This would make it easier for me to justify all I'm doing here out of interest and goodwill towards #Mastodon etc. Mainly in my freetime, if I may add... (I'm using this account, because this is the one for technical stuff and it has greater reach)
I didn't "mindlessly" tag the Lemmy community, but because I knew, that otherwise it would be very difficult to spread over there.
woelkchen
in reply to Martin Holland • • •I'm not your business consultant. If you want to hire me, DM me. Don't spam this Lemmy community.
Pamasich
in reply to woelkchen • • •@woelkchen@lemmy.world @mho@social.heise.de
I think you misunderstood the request to "share" there. They're most likely talking about boosts, Mastodon's version of Twitter's retweets. Lemmy, I think, doesn't implement boosts. So it makes sense you would interpret it differently from the rest of the fediverse.
Basically, this isn't a call to repost. It's essentially just asking to upvote and boost and OP can then see from where those interactions came.
It's on topic and your community has no rule against test/experimental posts.
Your community might want some additional rules if these kinds of posts are undesired. Like a low effort rule maybe. Or a rule against posts asking for upvotes and similar actions. A quick look at lemmy.world's site-wide rules didn't look like such a rule is there.
woelkchen
in reply to Pamasich • • •It doesn't, making the posting to Lemmy completely pointless, even if it wasn't a commercial experiment. Cross-posts don't count as boosts.
Herr Irrtum!
in reply to woelkchen • • •Whoa, dude, aren't we aggressive Today?
So if someone is posting from a Mastodon instance set up by his employer, during the weekend (!) you think it's automatically an Ad?
No, don't stop at this, call it SPAM.
Seriously?
If the contents is meaningless in your eyes, is this a reason to get that unfriendly? I mean there are so much more meaningless and btw. non positive vibe posts around, and particularly this is where you get out your fork?
I would understand when you complain about the "please repost" part (personally I'd chill about that as well), but your tone and attitude is something I do not appreciate.
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Hello from kbin.earth (mbin), I can see the post in the microblog feed. Upvoted and boosted.
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Unfortunately the dev possibly fell down a hole six months ago
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Unknown parent • • •With 100 more the picture desn't change that much: #Matodon clearly in the lead, but it absolutely shows, that is possible to reach an audience beyond that in the #Fediverse. Not to forget, there were many many many likes in #Lemmy before the post was deleted at lemmy.world.
#SocialMedia
Michael Chrisco
in reply to Martin Holland • • •what happened to the Lemmy posts/shares?
NVM I see it under this. Why did it get deleted on Lemmy.world?
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