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Let's try it again: This post from #Mastodon can reach the whole #Fediverse, #Bluesky & more. That's #Sharkey, #Pixelfed (hence the pic), #Mbin, #Lemmy, #Friendica, #Hometown, #Akkoma... How far can it go?

#SocialMedia

Edit: The results are in 👇

#friendica #mastodon #fediverse #sharkey #Lemmy #akkoma #bluesky #pixelfed #socialmedia #mbin #hometown
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Andrew

OP won't see your image unfortunately, because of a difference in how embeds are handled (Mastodon's use of image attachments to Lemmy's use of MarkDown has been fixed in one direction, but not the other).

For anyone wondering what the image was, it's here: lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/…

Also, since I'm not replying directly to OP, I think I also have to do this: @mho@social.heise.de

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woelkchen

So this is a test post you ask users to repost? And by you, I mean a paid writer for Heise, a commercial business? Looks to me at best as a meaningless test post, at worst an unpaid ad for your employer.

How is this not spam and why should I not remove this from !fediverse@lemmy.world?

PS: Note that merely downvoting is not an argument. Reply with an argument if you think that's a worthwhile post to a Lemmy community.

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Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)
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Martin Holland

@woelkchen

Well, the ad for my employer (as an WP-link) came from you, didn't it?

This is not the first such post: I have a tool, that makes it simple to later visualize from where the reactions came.
social.heise.de/@mho/112965913…
I think it's quite interesting to compare the promise of the #Fediverse (reach so many different networks) with the reality (it's mainly #Mastodon). And this is a good way, I think. On the other hand, this posts do show, how far your content can go.

Martin Holland (@mho@social.heise.de)

Angehängt: 1 Bild Even at the third attempt, it's almost only #Mastodon, from where I see shares. But that again just underscores the dominance of Mastodon.
Heise Medien on Mastodon
#mastodon #fediverse @woelkchen
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woelkchen

Well, the ad for my employer (as an WP-link) came from you, didn’t it?


You posted from that commercial domain, Wikipedia is non-commercial.

And this is a good way, I think.


That's a weak argument for why your post isn't spam. We here at Lemmy did not agree beforehand to participate in your experiment how far your commercial posts reach.

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woelkchen

Isn’t this directly about the #Fediverse?


Seems like your primary interest is to measure commercial reach and so far you made no argument to the contrary. I'm not against commercial content in the Fediverse. In fact, I'm in favor on giving users the choice what they follow and what they don't follow but that question hasn't been asked by you here. You just made your post and all ~30k subscribers here are the lap rats for your experiment.

Mastodon users mindlessly tagging entire Lemmy communities are a common annoyance and if your analytics tool is the same as in the past, it doesn't even register any interactions from there anyway, making your experiment even more pointless but not really a pity to me that Lemmy is invisible to your advertisers:

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Martin Holland

@woelkchen

Honestly, please tell me more about how I can commercialize this posts. This would make it easier for me to justify all I'm doing here out of interest and goodwill towards #Mastodon etc. Mainly in my freetime, if I may add... (I'm using this account, because this is the one for technical stuff and it has greater reach)

I didn't "mindlessly" tag the Lemmy community, but because I knew, that otherwise it would be very difficult to spread over there.

#mastodon @woelkchen
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Pamasich

@woelkchen@lemmy.world @mho@social.heise.de

So this is a test post you ask users to repost?


I think you misunderstood the request to "share" there. They're most likely talking about boosts, Mastodon's version of Twitter's retweets. Lemmy, I think, doesn't implement boosts. So it makes sense you would interpret it differently from the rest of the fediverse.

Basically, this isn't a call to repost. It's essentially just asking to upvote and boost and OP can then see from where those interactions came.

why should I not remove this from !fediverse?


It's on topic and your community has no rule against test/experimental posts.

Your community might want some additional rules if these kinds of posts are undesired. Like a low effort rule maybe. Or a rule against posts asking for upvotes and similar actions. A quick look at lemmy.world's site-wide rules didn't look like such a rule is there.

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Herr Irrtum! 🔊

Whoa, dude, aren't we aggressive Today?
So if someone is posting from a Mastodon instance set up by his employer, during the weekend (!) you think it's automatically an Ad?
No, don't stop at this, call it SPAM.
Seriously?

If the contents is meaningless in your eyes, is this a reason to get that unfriendly? I mean there are so much more meaningless and btw. non positive vibe posts around, and particularly this is where you get out your fork?

I would understand when you complain about the "please repost" part (personally I'd chill about that as well), but your tone and attitude is something I do not appreciate.

Greetings from Misskey

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Tom Schaffer

@woelkchen as someone who has been moderating online communities for about 28 years now, let me suggest, that you reconsider how you moderate a community. You are the one with power in this conversation and we all want people to participate in the Fediverse. It is not upon a user to provide you with a perfect reason to participate, a moderator has to provide a really good reason as to why he deletes something. Being grumpy today isn't enough.
@woelkchen
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caos

@Andrew Between Lemmy and Friendica (this account), all pictures are now even federated in the replies.

This is what it looks like from here:
Screenshot: Excerpt from the thread as seen from Friendica. The picture of the lemming can also be seen.

Between Lemmy and Mastodon /Sharkey currently only a maximum of one picture in the OP. But it seems to be possible in principle.
Since last year, a lot more has been working between Lemmy and the other Fediverse.

@Andrew
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caos

To be more precise: At the moment only in one direction (Lemmy > Friendica) all images are displayed.
This is how it looks in Friendica: anonsys.net/display/bf69967c-7…

caos

2025-01-12 12:04:43

friendica - Link to source

@Andrew Between Lemmy and Friendica (this account), all pictures are now even federated in the replies.

This is what it looks like from here:
Screenshot: Excerpt from the thread as seen from Friendica. The picture of the lemming can also be seen.

Between Lemmy and Mastodon /Sharkey currently only a maximum of one picture in the OP. But it seems to be possible in principle.
Since last year, a lot more has been working between Lemmy and the other Fediverse.

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