I'm so fucking sick of these attacks on human rights.

I propose the following course of action:

We pick a specific target and trash its value.
- Do whatever we can to make it lose money, customers, resources, employees, reputation.
- Do our best to make it toxic waste that investors won't touch.
- We make it easy for anyone to join the carnage.
- We keep hammering it until it dies or we get protections

Then we collectively pick another target and do it again.

And again.

Until the dying screams of US corporations reach the ears of those with the power to call off the attacks on women, minorities, LGBTQ+ people, disabled people, and everyone else this administration is going after.

When they stop, we stop, negotiate, and stand ready to start again if they don't follow through.

I suggest Tesla be the first to burn.

electrek.co/2025/02/13/tesla-tโ€ฆ

#ResistEverywhere #CitizenSabotage #HumanRights #USPol #FuckCapitalism #FuckFascism #EatTheRich

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I would urge caution to people going into malls to protest Tesla. Malls are "public" spaces but they're really private businesses, they have every right to throw you out or worse, prosecute (disclaimer: not a lawyer). Protest where you can be in a truly public space.
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good choice, especially since it's been tanking the last couple days, and we all know why he wants the consumer protection gutted, because Teslas are crap and he doesn't want to pay to actually FIX the problem. (As far as his popularity, nothing can fix his total lack of redeeming factors and just how much of an infantile douche he truly is)
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Potential agreement or disagrement based on what is meant there.

In objective terms the implications were indeed not fully analyzed in any real way.

In of widespread technological proliferation, it wasn't well considered but it was still a positive thing.

In terms of all the awfulness that was disregarded as inconsequential exernalities, I think that while some were not considered, some were very much considered and either gleefully ignored or actively made worse (even when that made the positive aspects of technological adoption much lesser).

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@Lexington Streetsweeper @๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ป๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ด (๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿฆ„) Give me a screen reader (preferably NVDA) accessible alternative with good discounts, free shipping, clear product descriptions, and a large variety of products, and I wouldn't mind doing it.
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@Hex @melioristicmarie YES! My mom and grandma were alongside other Blacks and Latinos picketing in front of Woolworths,Kress, Bullock's/Bullock's Wilshire and Robinson's in the early and mid 1960's in Los Angeles: those stores did not hire Black and Latino employees for the sales floor and restaurant. And they didn't want Blacks and Latinos shopping there. We're going to have to go BACK to 1962 and 1963 in order to fight these assholes.
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@angelastella @zeri @lednaBM

Well, some people respond to social pressure, or even perceived social pressure.

There are people for whom an airtight rational argument will barely nudge the needle, while being repeatedly reminded of what The Joneses might think of them could still make a difference.

(Not that this is simple to implement, but I'm thinking something like a single-page PDF that draws the connection in both large text and small, with a web site URL and QR code for more info & the original PDF. I can provide the web site and some of the information.)

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Fwiw...
I just checked privately owned EVs for sale over here

Looks like there are twice as many trying to get rid of their teslas across the nation, compared to number two on the list (VW). And three times as many as number three (BMW).

(Yes, there are obviously a number of factors involved here, but today I don't care)

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Yes! Start with Tesla. Weโ€™ve already done significant damage to WaPo. Next should be X and Google. Iโ€™ve already started ditching Chrome and will finish that this weekend. Any business that kowtows, supports, or acquiesces to Monster 47 is a legitimate target. Iโ€™d love to see Elon panhandling at an intersection!!!
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@carbontwelve @melioristicmarie

(just my opinion, so feel free to gnore if you prefer)

I'm not sure I would recommend attacking cars belonging to regular people

They've already received enough shit just for driving something more friendly to their environment. You want them to switch brand. Not going back to puking poisonous exhaust all over your neighborhood

But Tesla super chargers and Tesla stores, on the other hand.....

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malte

I like the ambition and taking the bull by the horns, first things first. I hope you're right. Either way, I would join you. So then the question is when the campaign starts. So that there's a clear beginning date that people can channel their energy into and that will make the collective effort felt and noticed.
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I love car sharing! I have several friends using this instead of owning. It's made it possible for them to finance a home instead of renting forever!

I also know a family who need their own car, but they usually make it available thru public car sharing during weekends. It's paid off long ago, so it's more like a " social footprint thing" for them

That's a 12-13 year old Tesla btw. There were no other family EVs back then, so Tesla was the only way they could stop funding "Big Oil"....

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@medley56
Great point. I thought to make the same point, but you beat me to the punch. I have a friend & colleague (a fellow electrical design engineer). He bought one a few years ago. I ask him about his experience regularly after reading something technically bad about these cars. He's very happy with it. We are in the Chicago area, where the cold can be challenging at times. He reports no issues. So, I understand where you're coming from. Musk should face anger crowds, incessantly...
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@BillMcGuire @medley56
Again, it's perfectly OK to target Musk himself with angry crowds. Too bad we don't have any billionaires paying people to do this the way the christo-fascists do. This also tells people a lot about the sociopathy and hoarding money disorder in the 100 millionaire plus community. No human should be worth that kind of money. Assets should be deflated. And, a wealth line should exist akin to the poverty line. Nobody goes below poverty, and nobody goes above wealth.
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Humble Fan of Atty. Woo

@medley56 @lednaBM

honestly, the only bumper sticker on my car is "LOVE" in script....which denotes the 1st racially mixed rock band from LA mid 60's. They are about to start their first American tour since the 90's with their original lead guitarist Johnny Echols and the rest of the band that is/was Baby Lemonade who helped continue the band LOVE from 1993 forward. My fondest wish is to see them LIVE one more time.

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@CaffeinatedBookDragon @medley56 @lednaBM

I got to the point about a year ago of just saying: "at least I can spot the assholes by their idiotic trump flags and bumperstickers". I knew my enemy, and they didn't know which way I was going to vote, unless the fact I drive a Honda Hybrid gave me away. ha

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@peterbrown
Stickers that says: Swasticar
(Not my invention! But I think it's a very good idea.) Make them easily removable so you can't be held liable for damage. But have so you can do it again, and again, and again, and again.
@alice @punissuer @lednaBM
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@jarjan @punissuer @lednaBM yes I think the point has been made that the people that bought these cars did so at a time when Elon Musk seemed to be carrying a banner for solar panels, electric cars and renewables. So they canโ€™t really be held to blame for the fact that he seems to be now an unrepentant fascist.
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@medley56 @PChoate @lednaBM @CaffeinatedBookDragon
My concern is that Musk was being investigated by 5 of the Inspector Generals who were fired. His companies anyway. There is a cover up going on and I dearly hope he gets caught up and tossed out for it. Criminals are gonna do crimes.....
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Jarjantifa

@Tooden
As far as I know, yes that's true. But... I do suspect many more people will instantly recognize what 'swasticar' stands for, while 'hakenkreuzauto' may only work in NL and DE. (And, to be honest, 'swasticar' sounds better? ๐Ÿ˜„ )
@peterbrown @alice @punissuer
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@jarjan When a person from India explains the significance to their faith, I tend to respect their claim to that symbol. Yes, it sounds better, but it's also pandering to the nazis who stole the symbol. @peterbrown @alice @punissuer
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this might be close to you. actionnetwork.org/events/marchโ€ฆ
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