I feel like this whole Anthropic export ban thing should be a wakeup call to anyone outside the US that if you've been newly developing a dependency on a proprietary US cloud service the government could decide to restrict export access to at any moment, you've made a strategic error and should probably reconsider that.
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in reply to Misty • • •This applies even if you are in the US.
You should avoid any cloud dependency.
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in reply to Misty • • •Yes, it is 100% risk, but the same risk exist with any in-the-cloud service no matter the geography.
Gov't overreach, or corporate decision/malfeasance can remove/restrict access.
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in reply to Misty • • •@ricobeck Well tbf there is a lot of decoupling happening. It takes time but things are moving. I‘m currently also part of such a project.
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Unknown parent • •So much for being decentralized and open-source then if even self-hostability and the ability to fork fails you.
This could extend to the entire Fediverse too as given A) a lot of the platforms are also hosted on Github or Gitlab and B) the large instances are hosted on Hetzner VPSes, the US could hypothetically block all three and it's byebye Fediverse.
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Unknown parent • •At the same time, NextCloud still lets you host your own cloud and doesn't lock your stuff behind a subscription ala Google Drive or OneDrive, either.
And one can still self-host Fediverse instances locally if they have the hardware to spare for it.
Surely there are other open-source, self-hosted cloud alternatives besides NextCloud, though.
Still don't help that the US could hypothetically drop a digital nuke on basically the entire open-source ecosystem, the Fediverse included, by blocking GitHub and GitLab if they ever actually get hostile enough to do that.
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