How could we convince Reddit subs to move over to Lemmy?


I'm just sick of Reddit.

The communities there seem much more active than the once on lemmy, which is not a surprise.

However, I oftentimes find myself doom scrolling through reddit, just because of some nonsense BS propaganda, ads, etc .., snuck inbetween of the community posts I'm actually interested in.

How can we convince the people over there to move away?

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in reply to Blaze (he/him)

Assuming it is stable (there was some question about that due to its running beta software?), that sounds like a great idea!:-)

Nothing will ever be perfect ofc, and surely there are tons of alt accounts on Lemmy.World and elsewhere, but that seems like it would help ease people more gently into Lemmy, without having to endure as much culture shock as seeing e.g. the anti-Western posts constantly streaming out from the big 3.

Especially for a more "mainstream" audience - e.g. expecting things to "just work" - from Reddit and even more so people who merely search the internet.

And then if people really WANT to see literally everything, there's always lemm.ee that seems legit great for someone who knows that going in.

PieFed seems even more ideal in terms of this functionality but... its UI definitely needs more than a little polish before it's fully mainstream.

I don't know how you have time to do so much to help build this place, but I am enthused to see it nonetheless!:-)

in reply to ad_on_is

Most people don't change unless they have to, and rarely even then. You'd have to make it so that they can't visit Reddit anymore.

Even on reddit itself, you can't get people to move from a sick community with hostile moderation to the preferred community. /r/Canada got taken over by /r/metacanada what feels like decades ago, and they turned it into a post modern bigoted classist hellhole, but it still ranks far above the "real" Canadian sub /r/OnGaurdForThee.

Maybe better not to compete with existing communities. Develop some anchor communities on Lemmy that are doing their own thing on topics that aren't well served on Reddit.

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There's nothing wrong with this approach either but I'd remind you and anyone else seeking this experience that Lemmy is infinitely more customizable for this than reddit ever was. The ability to block users, communities, instances, etc can be invaluable. Some instances also don't federate with everyone so it's fairly easy to find a smaller space that isn't so busy if the larger instances are too much.

Lemmy gets a lot of shit, and deservedly so at times, but there are already some very handy tools in the kit for curating your feed to your liking.

in reply to FrostyTrichs

But some features don't make sense or seem half-assed, like blocking instances at user level, it should also block every user from that instance, but for some weird reason it doesn't, you don't see the post from that instance, but posts on other instances made by those users and comments from users of that instance are still visible... So we are still forced into instance jumping until we find one that aligns with what we deem acceptable... And that could take a while.

Or the fact that Lemmy users talk a lot about privacy but the delete function doesn't really delete the content as it can be easily restored at any moment.

in reply to Ofiuco

PieFed, and the Lemmy apps Sync and Connect, can do that. They truly block users from any custom instance of your choice, without having to depend upon an admin (or spin up an instance yourself).

Base Lemmy cannot and a look at the admin practices present on the devs own instance convinces me that it likely never will - it seems simply not a priority for them (and we are on their platform - or rather you are:-).

Nothing is perfect ofc, but it's nice to have choices.

in reply to FrostyTrichs

Reddit took the time to get these communities going...


Sure! But, in this case Lemmy is literally a federated copypasta of Reddit, like Madtodon is of X.

Therefore, I think Lemmy is already a few steps ahead, due to the existing familiarity how communities/subs are supposed to be used.

So it's not we're starting from scratch... It's just getting rid of the annoyances of Reddit.

Take Mastodon/BlueSky as an example. People are already familiar withbthe concept of how to use it.

in reply to ad_on_is

But, that's not relevant to communities. You can kill a community by technical means, but technical means cannot create one; it's necessary but not sufficient, and not even the hard part.

Most people are still on fucking FACEBOOK. They are willing to put up with almost unlimited bullshittery for the sake of their sense of community. Building a better mousetrap won't work, and building a vaguely equivalent mousetrap won't even move the needle.

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in reply to ad_on_is

One suggestion to increase participation on Lemmy of those already here is to encourage people to spend some time just looking at the "all new posts" feed. I look at it a few times per day and was surprised at the number of Lemmy groups that I never knew existed. There are far to many groups here that started out good and just faded away. If it's an interest of yours post there and try to rejuvenate the group. Message the existing moderator if you can be added as a mod for that group.
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in reply to ad_on_is

I think how fragmented lemmy is hurts it. I enjoy Mastodon more, because it doesn't matter what server a person uses, you have but a single feed of all the people you follow.

But here on lemmy, every server has its own communities and might even be having the same conversations apart from each other. While reddit is a giant single space for each conversation.

If there was a way to unite feeds so that, for example, /c/gaming gave you posts from every community /c/gaming you are subscribed to or federated with (or /m/gaming for us mbin folks).
I think we could really see a proper exodus from reddit as it becomes proper alternative.

and of course, the classic lemmy experience would remain for those that don't want to do that. Much like old.reddit remained strong in the face of the site remake.

EDIT:
Maybe what we need instead is multi-reddits. Custom made aggregate feeds made by the user, so you have full control over your aggregated feed. And they don't need to have the same names in that case.

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in reply to LennethAegis

Thank you! I edit it out of my comment (well, put it in strikethrough). I thought perhaps it might be in the microblog area or something but nope, I don't see it there either. It does combine cross-posts, so perhaps that's what I was incorrectly recalling.

PieFed is really super-neat! Not entirely polished, but not entirely not either, and something to keep an eye on either way. :-)

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in reply to ad_on_is

Where does the believe even originate from, that Redditors are any different than Lemmings? Basically the same people minus the youngest, because they stick with using Reddit. They might or might not migrate eventually.

Make communities here bigger by contributing and spread the word of Reddit alternative. Make search engines find Lemmy content and then it goes on it's own. I guess Bluesky will push the Fediverse, but I wonder how long people will stick to a Twitter esque when they could have Lemmy full text conversations and tree structures?

in reply to ad_on_is

Send interesting Lemmy links to people you know. That's how they get interested, and check it out. You won't convince many people by extolling the benefits of the Fediverse, you just have to show them that they'll be entertained, and maybe they'll be somewhat more likely to switch if they know it won't enshittify. I'd say you should send links from instances that don't federate with some of the weirder places like Hexbear though, that's likely to turn people off until they realize how the Fediverse works.

One thing that we could use more of that draws people in is posts about relationship issues. Entertaining for almost everyone, and pretty much anyone can create them from their own experience.

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in reply to trashcan

It can be frustrating to go from a thriving niche subreddit to a new venue without anyone to populate those niche communities. Outside of ML, FOSS, and Star Trek, most of the niche communities are ghost towns.

I don't think anyone is suggesting convincing AskReddit or /r/memes to migrate. I think they're mostly targeting /r/ObscureInterestYou'veProbablyNeverHeardOf.

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in reply to ad_on_is

Don't bother, just make your own communities or magazines and contribute to them regularly.

"If you build it, they will come."

You can tell people about it if you like (especially if it comes up casually in conversation), but if you try to push it too hard you'll drive people away.

If the fediverse grows too quickly, it will also introduce more problems existing systems may not be able to handle.

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in reply to ad_on_is

Something I've been thinking about is that changes only happen organically, so I think it's good to not be an insistent advocate for a platform X, Y or Z. Instead, I think that perhaps it's better, instead, to simply use the platform the person is more favorable towards whenever possible, and if people then share something worth sharing, it should slowly bring people over. And regarding the annoying part, at most, making a note about technicalities and the type of people in the site could be good if discussions the person is engaged in allows, and if the person didn't burn people's patience by being pedantic.
in reply to ad_on_is

They allegedly remove posts/comments about lemmy? And even if they don't, I feel like it could have the opposite effect. People would see those posts just like ads/promotion/spam. Which would give lemmy a bad rep.
Unless something big happens, like some big community switching to lemmy, or someone with a big following promotes lemmy, it will hardly see a big spike in user count.

The only way is to passively "advertise" it. Maybe add the link to your lemmy account in your reddits about you section, if you are making OC add your lemmy handle there as well...

And the last way, which is most likely the best way to do it, is to post good content on lemmy, keep communities alive. And people will eventually join.

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That has not always been my experience, although I can see why you on Lemmy.World would say so (bc it defederates from lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net, where most of the hostility across the Fediverse concentrates), but indeed the average interaction here is much more positive than on Reddit (even though the worst, e.g. if you ever comment in ChapoTrapHouse@hexbear.net, is significantly more negative than Reddit ever was allowed to become by the admins).