So many tech bros are coming at me right now arguing that yes, in fact, Windows users or Facebook users don't deserve privacy.
Busting out the bold markdown for this: you're wrong.
Everyone deserves privacy.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Dลบwiedziu
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Privacy is a human right.
If one opposes to someone's rights, one should loose those rights, as per their own wish.
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Veronica Explains
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I don't care. You still deserve privacy. Full stop.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •feld
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Facebook users deserve privacy, but not on Facebook.
Facebook is a tool for sharing your life publicly. Why should you expect privacy from a tool whose entire purpose is public exposure? And how would that even work?
You really shouldn't try to mix private and public communications on the same platform. It will never work.
Veronica Explains
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •if you willfully choose to go into a public space in plain view of cameras and do things you do not want recorded, you're not a victim. Your privacy was not invaded.
edit: what happened to our critical thinking skills? do they stop once you sit at a computer chair?
Joris Meys
in reply to feld • • •"willfully" somebody needs to buy the milk, pal. That's why in civilized countries you can't just film everyone everywhere.
I'll never trust meta. Still, using facebook is a slightly less dystopian experience when privacy laws exist. And they exist because
People.
Deserve.
Privacy.
Why else would we have them?
@veronica
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Not only do they deserve it, so many of them want it!
You can tell by how they all post the spammy chain letter posts about how tomorrow Facebookโs rules will change and if they post today that they donโt allow Facebook to steal their data they will be protected from it.
Scanner
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I have a lot of family that use facebook. Our family is scatter all over the US and sometimes all over the world. Facebook offers them a stay in touch in a very rich way. It also funnels them garbage, and puts them at risk. These people may or may not know this and just yelling at them that they deserve what they get for being able to enjoy pictures that their grand children send them is wrong.
tl;dr - you are absolutely right. They deserve privacy. Facebook (windows, etc)
2xfo
in reply to Scanner • • •I haven't kept up on this but i know years ago many Latin American countries let Facebook give their users zero rate data meaning Facebook is free Internet, and the only Internet many people can afford.
Those people deserve privacy too
Mx. Eddie R
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Human after all
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Nu Modular
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Relatively speaking, yes - but not all relatives.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Of course, these platforms are mendacious assholes as well. People want to leave, but all their friends are there and itโs a collective action problem they will never lift a finger to make possible.
Iโm big on the idea of presenting people in general who want to escape these platforms. Can we build a project where people join in order to build the world they want? The intentional hurdle is the collective action problem of bringing along enough of your friends.
Angela Miller
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •I have to use it to stay in contact with relatives who live all over the world. Chatting via messenger is a pretty easy set up for my less tech inclined family.
Why do they deserve less privacy for needing to use Facebook?
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in reply to Class Wario • • •Sensitive content
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Yes, everyone deserves privacy. Privacy is one of those things that is sort of all or nothing: them not having privacy is actually hurting my privacy, just by making me (with more privacy) stand out.
I'm not arguing that.
But I'm not gonna bend backwards for people who'll troll you the first chance they get. If they want to shoot themselves in the foot, I won't waste my time and energy trying to stop them. Especially given that they will retry as soon as they can (read: as soon as I have left) anyway.
I would love to say that privacy isn't a lost cause, but we aren't nearly intelligent enough as a society to salvage what's left and fight back...
Alistair K
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •DFX4509B (Joshua Mason)
in reply to Veronica Explains • •Meta and MS make it very clear how they feel about their users, regardless of how their users really feel.
Like, when techbros say that Windows and FB/IG users don't deserve privacy, MS and Meta themselves are saying that very loud and clear by their actions as of late.
Hell, Meta is the one doing the bulk of the lobbying for all the recent KYC laws.
Raymond Russell
in reply to Veronica Explains • • •If you think otherwise you are probably making a fortune by restricting it or have been convinced by those people it's good to restrict it.
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in reply to Veronica Explains • • •Yes! Especially because #Windows & #Facebook are ubiquitous & are used by many users who are ignorant of the reasons why they shouldn't use those products. Have pity on those users & grant them privacy.
I'm speaking from the perspective of one who had to support family members using those products because they wouldn't take my advice to not use them. ๐๐คฆ
Mention those tech fools^H^H^H^H^Hbros here so we can school them.
Em
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