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EU needs to make a stand on Play Integrity. If app devs enforce Play Integrity, this means only Google Certified devices can use banking, etc. This excludes all alternative mobile OS. No #postmarketOS, no #SailfishOS, no Android derivatives #GrapheneOS etc. You don't need Play Integrity. If someone is capable to install or use alternative OS, they sure know what to install or not install, it is on their responsibility. Using non-root but bootloader unlocked device (otherwise can't use alternative OS) does not make my device less secure. On the contrary, it is using an up to date OS with the latest security patches. Do we really want all mobile devices have to be Google Certified? No. #mobile #integrity #bootloader #unlocked #nonsense #Europe
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Denzil Ferreira

@paoloredaelli I'm not sure I follow the reasoning behind EU wanting Play Integrity being a mandatory requirement for non Apple devices. Same way EU forced Apple to open their walled garden.

The only nuance thing here is, a Google Certified device means that they are running Google's proprietary blobs. So really, the course of action is, install alternative OS/use alternative OS and instead tell the devs of apps with Play Integrity checks that there are alternatives to check a device is not compromised - because that is what it should be about. Force Google to provide a different verification path that allows alternative ROMs/OS to be seen as safe.

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Paolo Redaelli

I agree the whole line. But I'm also pessimistic and I won't be surprised discovering that EU politicians have been "financially facilitated" to endorse #Google way of controlling society. And those not oiled may be just fool enough to think that they can "control the dragon" and use Google infrastructures themselves to control the population
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Denzil Ferreira

@paoloredaelli we don't know what we don't know 😉 I trust we can elect EU representatives which share the same concerns. It is our responsibility to make sure of that if we want change. There are so many items that require attention, some more pressing than others. And we have the option of not using a smartphone at all 🙈 Banks are making their apps only work on such devices with Play Integrity, and closing bank offices. Soon, you can't check your balance, transfer, etc unless you have a smartphone that is certified (iPhone or Google Certified device).

Meanwhile, we can have an open dialog like we are having here, so that people around the world also think about what this actually means for them: no alternatives, no options, a monopoly.

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ohir

> And we have the option of not using a smartphone at all

Not for long. At first you will not be able to pay for groceries. Finally not wearing a spying tag on you will immobilize you as a threat to the social order.

Technazis like sci-fi, just they don't like the endings.

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ohir

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Actually I was saying about how cheap politicians have become comparing to the oligarchy class. Just one second of income of a top tier technazi is enough to "lobby" any member of the administrative and politician class. Yes there are people who can resist an argument to the sum of their yearly legal income but not many of them are in position to decide.

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No #postmarketOS, no #SailfishOS, no Android derivatives #GrapheneOS etc.

- No desktops either if Google's QR captcha is any indication of where we're headed. Assuming this goes through, even desktops will be locked out of the web unless they're linked to a Google device by scanning the QR captcha with said device.

Or, Google could mandate AluminumOS to be able to pass their captcha on the desktop as well, and only through the Chrome browser.

Worst case, the end game will be thin clients tied to rented servers, which would ultimately be tied to your government ID.

#postmarketos #grapheneos #sailfishos

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