Surprising good news from π«π· !
"France's Constitutional Council strikes down social media ban for under-15s"
π : lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2β¦
"In its decision, the Constitutional Council raised concerns about the possible impact on privacy from instituting an age-verification system for all users."
Wow! I was not expecting this at all.
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Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •pst
in reply to Petra van Cronenburg • • •Would be great if courts in more countries would be able to stop the EU commission push for digital control
Hubert Figuière
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •so maybe now they'll tackle Big Tech like Facebook?
One would hope...
inpc
in reply to Hubert FiguiΓ¨re • • •The only true way to tackle Facebacon is for folks to stop using the steaming pile of shit...
Unlikely but I can dream.
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in reply to cultdev • • •Nux
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to Nux • • •@_elena
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in reply to Petra van Cronenburg • • •ZenHeathen π¨π¦
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •Toni Aittoniemi
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in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •Puurava
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •Stefan Bohacek
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •Good news indeed!
Glad to see that bad decisions like this still can be overturned.
Pedro Mateus
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •@_elena
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Juffo-Wup
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •Kitten.Koder
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •Here's the thing: we have destroyed the planet, there's almost no place for kids to go anymore because cars make getting there a very high risk trip and then the "parks" are too small for every kid in the area to be there. There's no more forests for them to explore either. Also it's too hot outside now.
They're online because they're fucking bored and can't go outside. Fic the climate, then the kids will go outside again.
gbsills
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •xs4me2
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •The problem here and the discussion here should start at the lack of accountability of the social media big tech companies for the irresponsible content that is hosted. Not with restrictions of users. It is that simple.
@EUCommission are you watching?
Worik
in reply to xs4me2 • • •@xs4me2
And the moral panic about harm to children when the harm to everybody is apparent
These companies are vulnerable to regulation because they must sell advertising in every market they operate in.
We could make them open their algorithms.
xs4me2
in reply to Worik • • •We shouldβ¦
Society cannot allow the manipulation of its citizens by fully untransparant algorithms and methods and by rogue state and other actors on these platforms that are affecting democratic processes and promote instability by spreading lies, propaganda and fake news, because that is what is going on. The social media providing these platforms need to be held accountable to prevent these unacceptable situations. It is that simple. Only then change will come!
GeofCox
in reply to xs4me2 • • •@xs4me2 @worik
I don't see a problem in law with drawing a distinction between genuinely co-operative, non-profit platforms like mastodon - in which individuals are responsible for their own content - and commercial platforms which centrally promote some kinds of posts for profit, by the use of algorithms, advertising, etc.
Legal distinctions like this are common in other areas of law - eg. in the UK a co-operative of producers is taxed differently from an agency acting on behalf of producers - which can be a subtle distinction, requiring fine legal judgement - but which has nevertheless been working pretty well for many years.
This could, in effect, make big commercial social media, porn, etc platforms legally liable for the damage they do, as other publishers are - and therefore immediate improvements to moderation and every other aspect of social and environmental responsibility.
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xs4me2
in reply to GeofCox • • •@GeofCox @worik
Exactly this indeed. We are seeing this commercial web of chaos, nonsense, fake news and evil intent spinning out of control and something needs to be done about it!
@EUCommission are you watching?
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Free Soft&Hardware Enthusiast
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •bbbhltz
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •Stefan Scholl
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •German news still reports on this like it would only affect kids.
Nobody asks themselves how they know whether a user is an adult or not.
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in reply to Stefan Scholl • • •RichRARobi
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •The words 'Constitutional Council' look extremely attractive to UK ears, where we don't even have real democratic elections.
Electoral reform is long overdue in dis-United Kingdom
#ukgovernment outdated, corrupt, selfish and lazy, sits on its hands while Britain burns.
retrimental
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •Paul Sutton (zleap)
in reply to Elena Rossini π • • •I understand where they are coming from with this, but these big tech companies have been told to sort out their practices time and time again, to improve user privacy and safety and have failed. These bans are a result of that failure.
If social media bans can be a force for change, make these platforms better for all users, then that is a good thing.
Even young people have said they get harmful content in their feeds, when they don't want it. So big tech is still failing and replacing human moderators with AI does not seem to be helping the situation.
DFX4509B (Joshua Mason)
in reply to Elena Rossini π • •Wow, someone in France actually making sense.
Now if only the US would declare their attempts at web censorship and device ownership destruction unconstitutional as well....