What this means is that Duck Duck Go, alongside basically every search engine that is not google, has completely delisted Neocities.
Which feels like something a lot of y'all should know!
blog.neocities.org/blog/2026/0โฆ
Update: DuckDuckGo at least has fixed this issue, likely thanks to some folks making a good kind of ruckus! Still, I hope this has informed people how much of a pain Bing can be with this kind of thing in general.
Neocities Is Blocked by Bing
Over the past few months, the Bing search engine has completely blocked the domain neocities.org, including the front site and all user subdomains (example.n...blog.neocities.org
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LiteralGrill
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I am just going to point out this setting right here:
That setting exists because most users on the fediverse do not want to be included in search results. Secondly, the fediverse has its own database. If you are someone who enjoys image board cultures with a Neocities vibe and you want to be discoverable, PinkSea or Wafrn—which have AT protocol services—might be better. I know for a fact that audience is on Bluesky, PinkSea, or Wafrn.
If you want to be indexed and would be on Neocities as an artist, you are more likely to be on Bluesky, PinkSea, or Wafrn (Wafrn is federated with the fediverse, too). You would probably not be on Mastodon. I am making a distinction between Mastodon, the fediverse, Bluesky, and the AT protocol. For example, Friendica and WordPress are not Mastodon. If you are on Mastodon, you probably do
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I am just going to point out this setting right here:
That setting exists because most users on the fediverse do not want to be included in search results. Secondly, the fediverse has its own database. If you are someone who enjoys image board cultures with a Neocities vibe and you want to be discoverable, PinkSea or Wafrnโwhich have AT protocol servicesโmight be better. I know for a fact that audience is on Bluesky, PinkSea, or Wafrn.
If you want to be indexed and would be on Neocities as an artist, you are more likely to be on Bluesky, PinkSea, or Wafrn (Wafrn is federated with the fediverse, too). You would probably not be on Mastodon. I am making a distinction between Mastodon, the fediverse, Bluesky, and the AT protocol. For example, Friendica and WordPress are not Mastodon. If you are on Mastodon, you probably do not want to be discoverable.
I am replying to you from my WordPress blog, and notice this:
I find it very interesting when people complain about discoverability, scalability, and virality on the Fediverse, even though most users donโt want that. Most users on the Fediverse do not want their posts to be indexed by DuckDuckGo or Bing.
I moonlight as a social media app developer and have my hand in a lot of subcultures. If you are an artist who wants discoverability and are within the niche NeoCities caters to, statistically speaking, you are on Bluesky, PinkSea, or Wafrn. There is a presumption of opting in with indexes on Mastodon. I know for a fact that many people who were on NeoCities jumped ship and are now on Wafrn because of drama going on there.
The horny shitposters who are into manga and anime and care about discoverability and being indexed are on Bluesky. By the way, thereโs a shit ton of furry porn on my blog. Iโm a furry. Most of the furries over here care about privacy, so they wouldnโt care about being delisted, considering there is a database for the Fediverse: fedidb.com/ .
โฌfriendica.world/display/84b6ef2b-8169-7993-c8c3-f17269946074
DFX4509B (Joshua Mason)
2026-01-28 04:42:48
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Ivan G.
in reply to Tofu Musubi • • •But it was worth it! ๐
All those blockquotes, and blinks on the pages, with ugly sites, but clearly handcrafted!
The internet was a better place!
Daluk Starglyder
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Joris Meys
in reply to LiteralGrill • • •Ecosia and startpage both just show neocities.org
DuckDuckGo does show the link, but also shows the feedreader link that Bing shows (one shouldn't click that link).
The Tattooed Nonna ๐ซ
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in reply to LiteralGrill • • •For finding websites that fit this criteria, there are smaller search engines more focused on them, like Marginalia Search or Wiby.
About Marginalia Search - Marginalia Search
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bluemilla
in reply to LiteralGrill • • •Just tried duckduckgo. Here's one result:
"Bing is blocking all neocities websites in their entirety and it is not known why. Neocities has attempted to reach out to Bing to attempt to resolve this. Neocities recommends that you do not use Bing (or DuckDuckGo, which uses Bing) until this is resolved"
Microplastics101
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in reply to LiteralGrill • • •klu9
in reply to Microplastics101 • • •FYI Qwant (my usual web search engine) seems affected, too. A search for Neocities gives a lot of results about Neocities but none from Neocities.org.
Ecosia (my usual image search engine) does return results from neocities.org
#Neocities #Bing #Qwant #Ecosia #SearchEngines
Microplastics101
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in reply to LiteralGrill • • •I did have the same issue with my site on Bing. I was randomly delisted and had to create a support ticket (twice, because Copilot didn't create it the first time I asked it to). A few weeks after the ticket was created successfully, I received a mail that said that they'd fixed something internally and that I should be visible through the index again. (And yes, it did work!)
But this still shows how bad Bing actually is. o.o
inb4 someone roasts me because I used an LLM: That's literally their support agent when you try to contact support through the Bing Webmaster Tools. You can't skip it. Calm down.
Franchesca
in reply to LiteralGrill • • •anyone who doesnโt know the kind of thing that you are missing, here is some nice whimsy that you wonโt find anywhere else
ghostscape.neocities.org/home
ghostscape
ghostscape.neocities.orgFell ๐FOSDEM
in reply to LiteralGrill • • •Mai
in reply to LiteralGrill • • •It seems that brave search also dosn't block them, they're also dont use google (or bing for that matter) as a source to my knowledge.
But yeah duckduckgo blocks is completly, just tested it. That's bad that they rely on bing that much...
That HTML Blog
in reply to LiteralGrill • • •Yikes!
FYI, just checked, no problems with indexing in @kagihq
Chuck
in reply to LiteralGrill • • •DDG and others can provide their own index and back fill with Bing results which would allow them to search and index neocities content without bing's support. More importantly they *should* do that so that people would experience "better" search results on DDG and switch.
I'm REALLY curious what rationale bing gives for deindexing neocities. they don't say (more like ad fraud than malware)
Nentuaby
in reply to Chuck • • •Chuck
in reply to Nentuaby • • •@Nentuaby
FWIW that points to an NSL letter which prevents them from telling you why they have de-indexed you. Except that the feds would have done that for Google too.
Unfortunately I don't think I know anyone inside Bing any more.
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Nentuaby
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in reply to Captain Jack Sparrow • • •Just check it for yourself
neocities.org/browse
Jasper ๐
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