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You want to buy a new phone.

#GrapheneOS is the most secure OS out there, #Fairphone has the best hardware in combination with #sustainability and #repairability.

Which combination would you prefer?

Boosts welcome.🔄

  • Pixel Phone + GrapheneOS (33%, 2 votes)
  • Fairphone + e/OS/ (50%, 3 votes)
  • Other (please specify) (16%, 1 vote)
6 voters. Poll end: 2 months ago

#sustainability #fairphone #repairability #grapheneos
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Jeroen van Tol 🍋 ✞

I prefer not to give any penny to Google, so rather not a pixle. Only if I had a profession like journalist or was outspoken in a less free country I think I´d prefer GrapheneOS. It is more safe, and /e/os isn't not safe. But it's best not to share info via the web if nobody else must know. I own a Fairphone 6 with /e/os and quit happy with it. Maybe not the safest if the mossad's coming after you, but very privacy-friendly.
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Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼

@Venty @scops SailfishOS is a mostly proprietary product with worse security than typical Android and iOS devices, and much worse app compatibility, especially in regard to banking apps, etc. It's being developed by a company that has long maintained ties to the Russian government, even after the illegal invasion and annexation of Crimea and Donbass in 2014, and has been continuously spreading misinformation about serious privacy/security projects like GrapheneOS.
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scops

@Andromxda
O.o i think you have a very strange view on sfos/jolla... For example; if it would be this proprietary as you say, community ports wouldn't be possible at all. And about russia: a company needs ways to finance itself. If the EU is to stupid to see whats in their territory, and another country makes offers... why not? And even after an invasion there are contracts that maybe needs time to end. ...
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@scops @Andromxda @Venty Forks of SailfishOS aren't possible. The components made by Jolla are largely closed source including most of the user interface and application layer. It's the components not made by Jolla which are open source including many of the lower level parts, which is why it's possible to port it elsewhere. That doesn't mean SailfishOS is open source, which it isn't. The lower level parts are largely Linux, AOSP and typical SoC vendor code for Android.
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@scops @Andromxda @Venty Russia's invasion of Ukraine started in 2014, as did sanctions. Jolla partnered with them in 2015 after that had already started. Regardless of any invasion, they chose to partner with an authoritarian government killing their political opponents and dissidents as a project which is now trying to market themselves as private and aligned with different values than those which they clearly hold. The technical aspects are the real issue but this isn't nothing.
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💀 Mirko 💀

Thanks for all the comments so far. Didn't expect so much feedback. Sometimes the #Fediverse really delivers.

The decision doesn't get easier by that.

I have to admit, i already own a Pixel 9 Pro and tbh, there is no alternative to use GrapheneOS with this device in terms of privacy and security. But, if i look from my familiy's perspective, everybody should use the same OS. And then you are not only limited to Pixel devices, but also rather current ones. GOS only can support a device as long as Google does. The rest of the family all have older Pixels, that are not supported anymore or have 1 year left. After i did some in-depth reading about /e/OS and iodeOS, the latter seems to be the slightly stronger contender. And, both are still providing all 3 devices with updates because being a fork of #LineageOS.

At this moment, i am inclined to switch the older Pixels to iodeOS and my Pixel to GOS. This way i can try out both OS and decide later, if i upgrade the whole family to current Pixels or will later continue with #iodeOS and have more device flexibility.

#fediverse #IodeOS #lineageos
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Benjamin

I am literally in this position right now, looking at exactly those two options. Simply from a Google-isolation position (they are simply not trustworthy), I want GrapheneOS.
But from an application support I feel Murena is superior and the FP is just great.

So.... Can I have an FP7 that has the hardware support GrapheneOS needs, and a built-in dual boot between a safe GrapheneOS and a "secure" (ie whatever Google demands to allow my government apps to run) with /e/?

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Brian Nicar

@rtw I installed LineageOS on an older Pixel 3a, and it went pretty well after I deciphered their less than ideal documentation. The main thing is upgrading to Android 15 from 12. That gives the phone extra life. Security is a priority since it's my Mom's phone now, but I haven't done a deep-dive on that yet. Overall, I like it a lot, and it's not a dealbreaker if it's not as secure as GrapheneOS...
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