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Donald Trump may just cost Canada’s Conservatives the election

Donald Trump may just cost Canada’s Conservatives the election

The President’s bombastic rants leave Pierre Poilievre’s party in an unenviable position
Michael Coren (The Telegraph)
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ExtremeDullard

The only upside of Trump's presidency is that it is a stark warning to other democracies around the world that it could very well happen to them also soon, and they'd better get their shit together before it does.

Hungary should have been a warning sign, but the US is a lot more visible and a lot more frightening when it falls into this trap.

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RaskolnikovsAxe

What does that have to do with anything.


Your comment stated that Trudeau was a pathological liar, but he's better than the 'alt right'. I assume alt right refers to the PPC, not the CPC, and I assumed you made THAT comparison (LPC to PPC), skipping over CPC, because you support the CPC.

My assumption about your CPC support may be incorrect, but it sure seems to be buttressed by the fact that you stated that Trudeau is an egregious liar, when in reality his dishonesty is no worse than many other politicians, and in regard to bold faced lies about facts (as opposed to, say, broken election promises) he's nowhere near as bad as Poilievre.

This why I asked you if you could identify any of Poilievre's many lies, misinformation, or disinformation. Because I suspected you might avoid answering it, as you predictably did. And given that the entire post and originating article is about the CPC, I don't think it's really off topic to ask about them. So, can you tell me where Poilievre has lied?

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Voroxpete

Yes, they are. Recent polls have shown a strong swing towards the Liberals. They're not in the lead yet, but the current trend is that direction, and that's without them even having a selected leader yet. Polls asking about hypothetical elections where Carney is the leader actually put them in a dead heat with the Conservatives (and unlike the US, in Canada its the Liberals who have the vote distribution advantage, so ties go their way more often than not).
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Chip_Rat

I don't know. Listening to PP on the radio the other day was, as usual, brain cell melting.

"We are under attack from the south! They are putting America first! Therefore We need to"put Canada First!" (Not a direct quote, was a soundbite on the 4pm CBC news radio as best I recall it)

Sir... When your idiot neighbours are in a democratic spiral to hell, maybe DON'T try and steal their slogans. I'm no political analyst but it's ....possible... the strategies they are using are at best ineffective.

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BonesOfTheMoon

I'll hold my nose and vote Liberal if it means no Conservatives. I am a leftist and vote NDP in a very lefty city, but Jagmeet is not really doing a good job keeping the party afloat and it's kind of in the weeds at the federal level. I think the only way Polievre will win at this point is if he promises to close the door to most immigration save for the highly skilled people we need, because wow do Canadians ever hate immigrants now. (Not that immigration doesn't need reform but I've never seen such naked hatred of them in my whole life here). if he promised housing reform that would help him a lot, but he'll never deliver on that. Also a lot of immigrants are more conservative and will probably vote for him, so he would cut off his nose to spite his face if he shut them out. I live next to a Sikh neighbourhood and they all seem to vote conservative.
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corsicanguppy

I’ll hold my nose and vote Liberal if it means no Conservatives.


Every. Damned. Time.

The biggest thing the Reds offer is a blocking action against the blue.

The best thing we had, and we'll look back on in the future, is when Mr Singh patiently and calmly leveraged a minority red government in support of slowly providing for regular people.

... and then he stopped doing it patiently or calmly and fell into a big pit of ego and special interest; but before that it was the most leverage he and his party had for improving regular people in a long time. I don't expect the oranges to be in a similar position for years to come, unfortunately.

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RaskolnikovsAxe

Poilievre has an incredibly lucky moment right now. Never has a Canadian leader had a moment like this, in the last century, maybe ever. He has a fantastically weak Liberal leader that has dragged his party down, and a disastrous US leader who threatens Canada. All Poilievre has to do is step in front of all of this and present a unifying vision. But he can't do it. He's incapable of being a leader. He can't seem to put his petty politics of anger aside and face the reality that the country has an existential threat and that the priorities have changed. Even when he proposes something reasonable (Arctic defense) he has to borrow a Trump move to get there (decimate foreign aid, even though soft power and diplomacy is the reason we have any friends at all right now). He is the very epitome of short term, ideological thinking. Ultimately he represents the populist right wing that will exacerbate wealth inequality and the resulting oligarchy..and we can all see the endgame of this movement playing out to the south of us.

No fucking thank you.

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