Open Letter to Mark Zuckerberg
in reply to Jens Becker

@masteralf @hirad One key point to keep in mind is that Meta software is really, really bad. Links are blocked basically at random, because they use the misnamed "AI" and this is really naive pattern matchers and random number generators. People go around attributing purpose to the actions of Meta's algorithms when really they ought to know better.

Anyway, Mark Zuckerberg is a big dope who could not possibly understand an open letter and so it looks silly even to address one.

in reply to Barry Schwartz 🫖

@masteralf @hirad Aside: I sense in here the myth of "enshittification", which is the notion that Zuckerberg provided something idealistic and then "enshittified" it. This myth depends on the assumption that Zuckerberg always intended to give away something out of the pureness of his heart, rather than to make money.

He simply did what you are supposed to do as a profit-making business: get people deeply interested, and THEN charge them a profitable amount for it.

in reply to Gilbert Pilz

@gpilz @masteralf @hirad AND THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR to keep that enjoyment. And that didn't wall itself off so it could make money off of people. Etc.

It's like if someone handed out a gadget on the street and gave free access, then made it so you had to trek to a store, pay money, and subscribe to the service. A lot of people would stop enjoying it. So what? THE COMPANY IS NOT A CHARITY.

in reply to Barry Schwartz 🫖

@chemoelectric @masteralf @hirad Enshittification is, among other things, about an inherent bait and switch. You grow your user base by offering one thing then, once that base large enough to make switching expensive, you change your offering to be something much shittier. It has nothing to do with charity, its about honest business practices.
in reply to pixelfed

in reply to pixelfed

@paul_e_cooley unfortunately, intentionally or accidentally. Dan is following Elon's 'move fast and break things' mentality.

He's doing great things for fediverse visibility... but being a one man show leads to getting your ego involved or missing things (like Loops' egregious rights over-reach in its TOS).

Dan's done a lot of good... I just hope he can avoid an Icarus-style crash and burn that could undo a lot of that good.
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in reply to pixelfed

I believe texts get better when we step aside for a few cycles and not let ourselves be driven by the highness of attention. Zuckerberg has never been what you describe. There is no grassroots moral origin we could jumpstart in the back of his memory. It is historically evident that Facebook, later meta has frequently chosen the unethical paths when they had choice to. There is no ancient ideal to appeal to. No renaissance can happen.
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in reply to pixelfed

great letter! Rooting for you all the way!! A couple of years after I started NadaMoo, I got a cold call from the retired director of sales for Ben and Jerry’s. “Your product has ‘legs’” he said, “and I want to help.” No threats from lawyers followed. Because Ben and Jerry got it right: equity, sustainability and community can be the pillars of successful businesses. They were not in my niche market, but they still cared about the people in my niche market.
in reply to pixelfed

"without harvesting their personal data"?
Maybe someone should tell the lawyers who drafted the Loops TOS that :)
bajsicki.com/blog/loops-video-…
in reply to pixelfed

»You've confirmed what we've been saying all along - that big tech is more interested in protecting their walled gardens than fostering genuine innovation.«

All along? Here's what you said, last September:

»Meta approached the fediverse in the proper way
They didn't acquire Mastodon
Instead they worked with fedi projects big and small regarding interop
Meta isn't the enemy«

mastodon.social/@dansup/113202…

in reply to pixelfed

Awesome, but the one catch here is that he probably didn't develop (with other people, not alone) Facebook for idealistic reasons. It's more likely that he wanted to get laid, and help other horny college dudes get laid. The original Facebook has been credibly accused of being a stalking app, and I find that very easy to believe. Nothing he's done has indicated to me that he actually gives a shit about users, and nothing he says has any meaning for me without evidence to back it up.
in reply to pixelfed

I noticed something similar a year or so ago. Any time I would share photos of my kids with family members or whatever, I would create a public share link to the album on my Nextcloud server, with an expiration date, and then share that link on Facebook. All of a sudden one day I started noticing that the posts would get deleted a few minutes after I posted them, then they started blocking me from posting the links outright.
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Sally Strange

@amici nah man, you can't look at structural bigotry through the lens of personal character. If the letter writer is unaware of FB's sexist origins, that means they're not tuned into even the most basic of feminist information sources, which means they're marinating in the same background misogyny that we all are. It's easily remedied and it doesn't mean they, personally, hate women--but it's still sexism.