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Without remaining dependent, that's important


It is useless to try to save anything of civilization. That will not work. We can save some of us with departing to become independent from civilization with sustainable ways living in simplicity where anything needed for food and useful materials can be grown. There are places in nature which people can be very comfortable with, we really belong there more and do not need civilization as much, with that. Some are doing such and some will be making change that is needed. I hope for some being comfortable to join with me in moving to such where we can continue sustainably with what we will have growing to be enough for us.