On the one hand, when Deep Seek "doesn't know" about a thing (i.e., something not present the training data), it'll state it clearly (I'm not sure if the image will be sent as I'm not using Lemmy directly to reply this):

The context of the image is the following: I asked DeepSeek about "Abnukta", an obscure and not-so-much-known Enochian term that is used during one of the invocations of Lilith, and DeepSeek replied the following:

"Abnukta is a term that does not have a widely recognized or established meaning in mainstream English dictionaries or common usage. It could potentially be a misspelling, a neologism, or a term from a specific dialect, jargon, or cultural context. If you have more context or details about where you encountered the term, I might be able to provide a more accurate explanation. Alternatively, it could be a name or a term from a specific field or community that is not widely known".

So, the answer that the user Rimu received is not regarding something "unknown" to the LLM (otherwise it'd be clearly stated as that, as per my example), but something that triggered moderation mechanisms. So, in a sense, yes, the LLM refused to answer...

However... On the other hand, western LLMs are full of "safeguards" (shouldn't we call these as censorship, too?) regarding certain themes, so it's not an exclusivity of Chinese LLMs. For example:
- I can't talk about demonolatry (the worshiping of daemonic entities, as present in my own personal beliefs) with Claude, it'll ask me to choose another subject.
- I can't talk with Bing Copilot about some of my own goth drawings.
- Specifically regarding socio-economics-politics subjects, people can't talk with ChatGPT and Google Gemini about a certain person involved in a recent US event, whose name is the same as a video-game character known for wearing a green hat and being the brother of another character that enters pipes and seeks to set free a princess.
- GitHub Copilot refuses (in a blatant Scumthorpe Problem) to reply or suggest completion for code containing terms such as "trans" or "gender" (it's an open and known issue on GitHub, so far unanswered why or how to make Copilot answer).

But yeah, west is the land of the freedom /s

Some experimentation with Chaos Game.

For those unfamiliar with Chaos Game, it's a mathematical experimentation (not really a "game") which applies some constraints to randomness, so order and pattern will emerge from it.

For example: you have an equilateral triangle and you start at the topmost vertex of it. You randomly choose between the three vertices, then you place a point exactly in the middle between the current coordinates and the chosen vertex. You repeat the process indefinitely, choosing another vertex and placing a point midway between the current coordinates (it's now a place inside the triangle) and the chosen vertex. Gradually, you'll start to notice a pattern, in this exact case, you'll end up with a Sierpinski triangle.

The more random and unbiased the randomness, the more quality the end result will have.

You can change parameters. For example, you can change the geometrical shape (e.g. a pentagon instead of a triangle), or you can change the ratio (i.e. how far from the current coordinate to the next coordinate: instead of going half the way, you can choose to go 1/3 (0.3333...) of the way, or you can even extrapolate past the next coordinate with a ratio bigger than 1). You can choose to not repeat the previous coordinate, or you can choose to not choose a neighboring vertex, and so on... Different constraints will result in different results, sometimes a fuzzy cloud of dots, sometimes a pattern.

It's interesting to see patterns emerging from randomness.

(I tried to send two pictures, but one of them got an error while I tried to upload...)

@alexadeswift While I'm not exactly Wiccan (I'm closer to a Luciferian and Lilithian perspective/belief, with many syncretic aspects), I see Death as one of the aspects/archetypes from The Dark Mother Goddess (Lilith), known as Agrat Bat Mahlat, who would be akin to the Crone aspect of Hekate.

My understanding of Goddess Lilith (and consequently, of Na'amah and Agrat Bat Mahlat) is grounded both on (unexpected) individual/personal spiritual experience with Her, as well as on a Brazilian book, "Encontro com Lilith: mulher, demônio e Deusa" (Encounter with Lilith: woman, demoness and Goddess) written by Mark H. Williams, which has an entire section on how to experience Lilith, including what he calls "Caminhada no cemitério" (Walk in the cemetery):

English translation:

Walk in the cemetery

One of the primary Lilith roles is the transformation force. Although these transformations occur in different ways, facing Death is a key step to our path. If Death is a hard subject for you, perhaps it's better to postpone this practice until you've already worked with Lilith for a while.

Find a nearby cemetery, where you feel comfortable to walk alone. Before entering, throw some coins as an offering to the spirits of guarding the cemetery. Ask permission and thank them for their services to the living and the dead.

Start at one point in the cemetery and go through it all, imagining Lilith by your side. Observe some gravestones: notice the names, birth/death dates, among other details. If a grave catches your eye, linger over it for a while, meditating about the person who's buuried there and what would their life have been like. Ask Lilith to help the soul of the deceased as well as helping you in your journey, too.

I did this several times. Strikingly, when I first time I practiced this, I hadn't the book yet, I was still discovering and trying to figure out about Her on my own. It was shockingly surprising to me when I bought the book (because the title having Lilith's name caught my eye at the bookstore) and was faced by the exact practice I did before.

As I said before, from a syncretic perspective, Lilith could be seen as Hekate with Her three supreme aspects: Crone (Agrat), Mother (Lilith Herself) and Maiden (Na'amah). The very figure of The Death is sometimes seen as a Goddess, such as Santa Muerte and Morana.

I hope this helps!