LUCIE 🇫🇷 : A French Open-Source Language Model developed by Linagora and the OpenLLM France consortium.
LUCIE is a open-source language model aiming to provide a transparent and sovereign AI solution for Europe. Led by #Linagora and supported by various public and private actors, #LUCIE was publicly released in January 2025.
But it faced significant criticism due to its early development stage. Users were disappointed with its performance, leading to public backlash (similar to ChatGPT's in early days).
The problem is that the project did not clearly communicate LUCIE's early training state, so now when users go to the project website, it greets them with a message explaining the model's current limitations. They encourages users to interact with LUCIE in French and English, focusing on tasks like text generation and summarization, but not complex tasks like mathematics or coding.
To support LUCIE's development, users are invited
... Show more...LUCIE 🇫🇷 : A French Open-Source Language Model developed by Linagora and the OpenLLM France consortium.
LUCIE is a open-source language model aiming to provide a transparent and sovereign AI solution for Europe. Led by #Linagora and supported by various public and private actors, #LUCIE was publicly released in January 2025.
But it faced significant criticism due to its early development stage. Users were disappointed with its performance, leading to public backlash (similar to ChatGPT's in early days).
The problem is that the project did not clearly communicate LUCIE's early training state, so now when users go to the project website, it greets them with a message explaining the model's current limitations. They encourages users to interact with LUCIE in French and English, focusing on tasks like text generation and summarization, but not complex tasks like mathematics or coding.
To support LUCIE's development, users are invited to test the model and provide feedback.
But because of the public outcry it faced earlier this year, the tool isn't openly available anymore. 😕
Now people have to sign up and ask to participate. If you want to help them train by submitting your questions and giving constructive feedback, you can try!
Website: lucie.chat/en
#opensource #europeanalternatives
The truly open source AI built on transparency, trust, and efficiency.
lucie.chat
Gabriel Pettier
in reply to Søren Have • • •Martin Vermeer FCD reshared this.
The Penguin of Evil
in reply to Gabriel Pettier • • •@tshirtman Given the dire fuel efficiency (and remember US gallons and UK ones differ) most of the EU you couldn't afford to fill one up in the first place.
The 106.8g/km is btw missing the target for a car which is 95, going down to 93 shortly, then 45 then 0 in 2035.
Gabriel Pettier
in reply to The Penguin of Evil • • •people who can afford such a car can afford the fuel, they'll complain about the taxes on it though. We shouldn't allow or tolerate them anyway.
But good point about the other one not even being good enough. I'm happy to live car free.
Pepijn
in reply to Gabriel Pettier • • •@tshirtman Dodge RAM trucks (via the import loophole) are becoming popular in Denmark*. They're in the price-range of midrange electric SUVs. That makes them in range of a very large part of the Danish population.
It seems most(?) are registered as company cars. The tax "burden" to drive it privately is almost an incentive.
*we have one arsehole locally doing the supermarket and schoolrun with a Dodge RAM. She's small and thus the blind zone is most of a parking lot.
@etchedpixels @sorenhave
Søren Have
in reply to Pepijn • • •@Pepijn We could (and should) put a huge tax on them, until ideally a complete ban.
@tshirtman @etchedpixels
Pepijn
in reply to Søren Have • • •Would a ban of privately driving the ones registered as company vehicles be a feasible first step?
@tshirtman @etchedpixels
Søren Have
in reply to Pepijn • • •@Pepijn Not sure if/how it could work. Issue is the EU internal market rules (which we usually like).
@tshirtman @etchedpixels
Pepijn
in reply to Søren Have • • •I was wondering as this seems something that every country decides for themselves as part of their tax system. As I understood it DK already has some limitations on types of commercial vehicles that can be driven privately. But maybe I misunderstood.
@tshirtman @etchedpixels
Søren Have
in reply to Pepijn • • •@Pepijn My point was that taxation is within national legislation, but bans are not.
@tshirtman @etchedpixels
Martin Vermeer FCD
in reply to Søren Have • • •The Penguin of Evil
in reply to Søren Have • • •Søren Have
in reply to The Penguin of Evil • • •@etchedpixels Agree. I’m working to get that reflected in the hopefully forthcoming road user tax.
concito.dk/en/udgivelser/hvord…
@Pepijn @tshirtman
How Should Road Transport be Taxed?
CONCITOMorten Grøftehauge
in reply to Pepijn • • •Morten Grøftehauge
in reply to Morten Grøftehauge • • •Pepijn
in reply to Morten Grøftehauge • • •@drgroftehauge A VW transporter, even the older types are much less dangerous for "anyone not the occupant" than these vehicles.
It's a combination of physical design (massive vertical fronts taller than 10yr old children) with a setback driver position (so a blind angle of multiple car lengths) and a lot of little things (chairs not vertically adjustable, less electronic safety systems, solid steel bumpers without real cushioning etc).
@sorenhave @tshirtman @etchedpixels
Pepijn
in reply to Pepijn • • •"Fun" fact: The Dodge RAM trucks imported in Europe (there's a dealer in Silkeborg) have blind spots larger than actual modern cargo trucks on EU roads..
@sorenhave @tshirtman @etchedpixels
Pepijn
in reply to Morten Grøftehauge • • •@drgroftehauge That second situation is what I mean: can the rules be changed so that certain vehicles in DK can't be registered as such. It instantly makes the case for these trucks less interesting for a part of the population.
In NL that situation exists and blocks for example a large van with a little crane (we actually had a colleague who wanted to drive that one privately) from becoming a commercial/private company perk.
@sorenhave @tshirtman @etchedpixels
Gabriel Pettier
in reply to Pepijn • • •Rivoluzione mobilità urbana🚲
in reply to The Penguin of Evil • • •@etchedpixels
This is the point of the agreement: USA vehicles would be equivalent to EU ones without needing to fulfill EU requirements. Not only a matter of pollution but worse, road safety, hence the article title
@tshirtman @sorenhave
sebbe://
in reply to Søren Have • • •Pepijn
in reply to sebbe:// • • •@royalrex There is a direct correlation between pickup trucks and the death rate of pedestrians.
Rates are going up specifically in low speed frontal run overs (of children) as many of these pickup trucks (like the RAM already becoming popular in Denmark) have a larger front blind spot than actual main battle tanks.
@sorenhave
sebbe://
in reply to Pepijn • • •Rivoluzione mobilità urbana🚲
in reply to Pepijn • • •@Pepijn
This is true but only partly. Especially interesting is comparing USA and Canada, which have similar vehicle fleets, as pointed out by the article below, but in Canada pedestrian deaths are still going down.
The article states that USA still has bigger vehicles than Canada, but better enforcement of road rules plays an important role.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/20…
@royalrex @sorenhave
Pepijn
in reply to Rivoluzione mobilità urbana🚲 • • •@rivoluzioneurbanamobilita That doesn't make it partly true: there IS a direct correlation between increased deaths of pedestrians (specifically children and other small people) and the specific models. Even the US government NHTSA agency reported as such.
Also frustratingly: with the current Us administration deleting stuff the specific pages I had bookmarked I had are all 404 🙁
@royalrex @sorenhave
Rivoluzione mobilità urbana🚲
in reply to Pepijn • • •Sorry, my bad: I understood you meant it was the only, or main correlation, but after re-reading your message I see what you meant.
Anyway I find the Canadian vs USA case very interesting for this kind of analysis!
Edit:
1984 vibes 🫤
@royalrex @sorenhave
Pepijn
in reply to Rivoluzione mobilità urbana🚲 • • •@rivoluzioneurbanamobilita No problem. And I noticed the article you link actually makes that connection to certain models of cars as well.
I'm probably somewhat trigger happy on this as the Dutch ANWB (a car manufacturer lobby association cosplaying as a road help foundation) has used this obfuscation playbook for decades to lobby for what in practices leads to larger, heavier and more dangerous (for all but the occupant) cars.
@royalrex @sorenhave
Pepijn
in reply to Pepijn • • •@rivoluzioneurbanamobilita
>1984 vibes
When I'm at home I'll see if archive.org has it.
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