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I'm really loving how Mastodon has become a refuge for all the grizzled seafarers on the ocean of the internet. They pop up in my feed and their bios all say something like
"I've been online for longer than the internet. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. 56k modems on fire in the light of Usenet. I watched IRC forks glitter in the dark near the Gateway 3000. All those moments will be lost in slop, like tears in rain. Time to deshittify."
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Dave 🇺🇦
in reply to Janeishly • • •56k modem? Luxury! When I were a lad ...
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in reply to Dave 🇺🇦 • • •@TheLancashireman Yeah, I've already had a mate saying "Pah! 2800 baud rate was all we had".
I'm not actually sure how fast(slow) my first connection was, because after I finished my MA in 1991 I was offline for about 8 years and missed all the very slow bits!
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in reply to fedops 💙💛 • • •Agreed!
Katrina Katrinka
in reply to Shawn Hooper (he/him) • • •The ones where you put the actual phone receiver on them? My dad had one of those.
fedops 💙💛
in reply to Katrina Katrinka • • •@katrinakatrinka those were acoustic couplers: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoust…
@shawnhooper @Janeishly @TheLancashireman
device for for coupling electrical signals via sound
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Ah.
This is the one I was remembering, btw.
trs-80.org/telephone-interface…
The TRS-80 Telephone Interface
www.trs-80.orgD2
in reply to Katrina Katrinka • • •@katrinakatrinka @shawnhooper @TheLancashireman yeah, I’ve got one of these… was my first modem.
I’ve even kept a leased USWest rotary phone so I have a legit handset 📞 for using it if the opportunity arises.
Simon Green
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in reply to Katrina Katrinka • • •He wrote an adventure game, and after months of editing lines of bad code.. “syntax error in line 900” etc we had an early version of Dungeons and Dragons.. it was called “The Golden Baton”
Niall in Raglan
in reply to Shawn Hooper (he/him) • • •Ps @TheLancashireman Yorkshire accent from a Lancastrian? your ancestors will be spinning in their graves!
Dave 🇺🇦
in reply to Niall in Raglan • • •That's why it's fake 🤣
Griff
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in reply to Griff • • •Simon Green
in reply to baconandcoconut • • •@baconandcoconut @griff @shawnhooper @TheLancashireman I can still hear the start of Impossible Mission: ‘Ah, another visitor. Stay awhile. Staaaay forever!’
Mushy faux-sample playing by tweaking the SID chip the right way. It was magic to me.
Griff
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2800 baud, you speed freak 1200\75 BBC Micro Prestel was my first online experience.
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in reply to Moe Lassus • • •Cups? Luxury. Us had two baked bean cans scrounged out of next door's dustbin and we had to leave the tomato sauce and rat pee in them for Sunday dinner.
Moe Lassus
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in reply to patter • • •Funny you should say that.
My first stage of programming (at school, age about 15) involved writing the code (BASIC) on coding sheets and posting them to a computer centre. The code got typed onto punch cards and executed.
After about a week round trip the results and the card deck came back. We could make modifications to single cards by writing the changes on the back. Adding new code meant more coding forms. And then back into the post.
Janeishly
in reply to Dave 🇺🇦 • • •Tony Hoyle
in reply to Janeishly • • •56k? So you had a posh one then. Bet it even had autodial.
300 baud ftw.
Janeishly
in reply to Tony Hoyle • • •Flaming Cheeto
in reply to Janeishly • • •Parity was not about dominance in sports leagues
Norton commanded the'verse
And HP products and corporate culture were admired
Janeishly
in reply to Flaming Cheeto • • •Oggie
in reply to Janeishly • • •@PizzaDemon
Oh god, HP products used to be -so good-! And like, cheap! The desktops were bricks that just worked, the printers you could drop off a truck mid printjob and they'd be fine.
And...now...
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in reply to Oggie • • •@Oggie @PizzaDemon Exactly! The printers! So good!
Meanwhile my laptop before this one was an HP because there were no suitable Asuses (Asusii??) when I came to buy one. When it got stolen from my car I was annoyed, because expense, and hammering a new Windows machine into shape always takes about a fortnight, BUT I was also sniggering at the fact that someone was now trying to use my piece of shit HP machine that had been crap since I bought it.
Oggie
in reply to Janeishly • • •@PizzaDemon
Very much that gene wilder Wonka gif 'oh no, wait, come back'.
But i'm sorry you lost the laptop if only because it IS such a pain to set it all up again
Janeishly
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in reply to Janeishly • • •That's not the list of things a real old timer on the Internet would bring up. We would talk of goats from Christmas Island, girls hanging out in tubs, and the sharing of cups.
That is, we would...if the filters didn't instantly block such conversations.
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in reply to Janeishly • • •Robin Adams
in reply to Lightfighter • • •@Lightfighter Usenet was not on the Internet then - not until it was bridged by InterNetNews in 1992 (after the Web). (EDIT: I was wrong, see thread)
I remember Usenet discussions around 1987: "I've heard of this new thing called the Internet. What is it? Is it any good?"
Janeishly
in reply to Robin Adams • • •Robin Adams
in reply to Janeishly • • •@Lightfighter Jan 1 1983 is usually the date named as the "birthday of the Internet", when ARPANET switched to using TCP/IP so it could share traffic with any other network using that protocol.
Usenet started before then in 1980, spreading from BBS to BBS via dial-up users uploading and downloading the posts.
The Web came later in 1989, using the Internet so you could click on a link in one document to jump to a document on a completely different machine.
Before then to use the Internet, you had to know where the machine that had thing you wanted was, connect to it by FTP or Telnet, log in (the log in prompt would give you instructions, usually username "anonymous" and password your email address), read the "message of the day", and navigate through that machine's file system (this was how I first learned Unix commands).
MUDs were big then. I spent a lot of time on MOOs (object-oriented MUDs where you could create your own items by coding their behaviour in an object-oriented language).
Now get off my lawn you darn kids.
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in reply to Janeishly • • •Yay though I witnessed its birth, baby steps and adolescence, I yet hope to see it grow through to some semblance of maturity.
Nice to meet your acquaintance.
Kindly avoid the lawn. etc.
Number6
in reply to Janeishly • • •An AOL disk in the box every day.
Only after you subscribe do you realise that "AOL" stands for "Always Off Line".
Andreas K
in reply to Janeishly • • •I skipped 56k modems.
Went directly with a luxury fixed 64k ISDN (now how modern Android keyboards don't want to predict these 4 letters) line with a static IP as a business expense.
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in reply to SeaCaptain(Ret) • • •@jfharrison Interestingly about 12 years ago I was helping run a popular online radio station and we had one listener who was using Inmarsat from the ship he was on, and whoever was paying for the bandwidth tolerated this (a 128 kbits/s stream), and this didn't upset the Internet availability for everyone else on the ship so the tech must have improved at some point..
Near the coasts, most people nowadays can get an LTE (mobile) link from the nearest country..
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in reply to Janeishly • • •Home, home again 🙂
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in reply to Sharkie • • •@sekka @mira Really? I don't think I saw it and copied it (unless I saw it during a middle-of-the-night insomnia scroll, in which case I apologise profusely!)
Otherwise, great minds, eh?
Sharkie
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in reply to Janeishly • • •"I fought in the great Usenet Wars, where the first trolls were forged, 2400 baud at a time. Where the groundwork for the first memes were laid -- primitive things of simple words, barely more than repeated jokes.
Back when one truly could not fathom how someone as dumb as that managed to get onto the internet."
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in reply to Janeishly • • •56k? 300 bayd which got upgraded to 1200/75.
4 times the bandwidth! Phoar!
(Cue - get off the phone Andrew!)
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This! I posted the following Rutger Hauer meme before (ephemeral, deleted now):
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in reply to Janeishly • • •I remember when we had THREE HUNDRED BAUD, and we LIKED IT...
But yes, that is SO ME...
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in reply to Janeishly • • •Firehorseart lives!
in reply to Janeishly • • •*Waits for elder seafarers to mention mainframes, etc*
I'm trying to resist mentioning what came before the internet, but I'm sure someone will share their hex dump vision of the world if we're patient.
🤓
Janeishly
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in reply to Janeishly • • •😂
Giving you a follow, as I love a good tech Bladerunner joke and you can translate Swedish - which seems like an ace combination!
Hej! Hej!
Janeishly
in reply to Firehorseart lives! • • •bytebro
in reply to Janeishly • • •(Sorry. I'm far to old to jump around like that!)
Dianora (Diane Bruce)
in reply to Janeishly • • •Krafty 😺❤️
in reply to Janeishly • • •My first online experience was unfortunately with a computer with Windows ME on it. I tried installing XP on it, but it didn't run very well. I got to "enjoy" all of Windows ME's quirks.
I miss the good old days of internet forums, though, even though it was on a potato that looked kinda like this.
Janeishly
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in reply to Janeishly • • •and we are still around 😅
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in reply to Janeishly • • •I resent being referred to as Grizzled.
I prefer... Seasoned.
Mx. Eddie R
in reply to Janeishly • • •To download stuff from other sites, I could send a FREQ over FidoNet and a day or two later my file would be ready to download.
The paid local BBS eventually offered a SLIP connection to the Internet, but it cost $1 an hour and also it was SLIP.
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in reply to ShadSterling • • •Witold Kowalik
in reply to Irenes (many) • • •Looking back I'm amazed how swiftly this was made. We barely had people with enough technical skills, honestly no money, and it all was grassroot. And that local net grew over a decade to like a 150+ people. That was cool...
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The Sleight Doctor 🃏
in reply to Janeishly • • •An ex partner of mine once said you could explain the whole of life in three words "coulda woulda shoulda". We were on our third date.
It was in that precise moment that I fell in love with her. 😆
Janeishly
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in reply to LeighC2 • • •@leighc2 Late Gen Xer here (still in my 40s). I can't make such an impressive claim, but I was writing my own games in BASIC before I even hit my teens. I rewrote my version of Boulderdash in GFA for the Atari ST, then rewrote it again in QBasic on MS Dos.
The Atari version worked the best, because the language had specific commands (such as BMOVE) for directly manipulating screen memory. Even uncompiled, it was playable.
I also worked in IT for some years. Hated it, though...
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I used to build computers for fun. I could tell a modem's connection speed by listening to it. I used to host regular LAN parties because I had networking equipment at home and the know-how to make it work.
I gave up on Facebook 13 years ago.
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in reply to Eric G. • • •@ApostateEnglishman I'll take this moment to proudly present a 'grizzled seafarer' cred. It is in the 'programmer' list in the sidebar
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1982 graphical adventure video game
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in reply to Janeishly • • •PC
in reply to Janeishly • • •I think you mean de-enshittify.
I used to wait 30 minutes for a png of Spock to download at a blistering 1200 baud onto my beefed up Gateway 386.
I was on local BBS’s way before the Usenet. Wildcat!
Janeishly
in reply to PC • • •@PChoate Yeah, I probably do but it's a bit too cumbersome in the mouth (and doesn't quite map as well onto "die", which is the original word).
It's amazing that we all used to wait so long for stuff to happen. I remember it being irritating, especially if you'd waited for half an hour for a tape game to load and it then gave you an error message right at the end... but it wasn't as irritating as waiting for a single YouTube advert to let me skip it, the odd time I forget never to tap a YT link on my phone.
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in reply to Janeishly • • •@PChoate I remember using “getright” to download things with minimal repetition across connection failures, and wishing there was a “putright” to do the same for uploading.
But I think the interruption that really pissed me off was when I’d set up some long running task to run overnight, and log on in the morning to find Windows Update ate my homework. Having to edit the registry to be able to use my computer on my schedule help me switch to Mac
PC
in reply to ShadSterling • • •@ShadSterling
One of my jobs was to work on mainframes through Telnet terminals. Later PCs.
I ported a bunch of things to our network when they created one, but the big stuff all had to stay on the mainframe so I was working with both.
So one of my tricks was running large overnight mainframe jobs, but it required a live connection to a session on my computer that would mysteriously toggle off occasionally.
I had a portmanteau of connections!
scorpionic maelstrom ☕️ ♏️
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in reply to Janeishly • • •speaker: piiiiiiiiiiichrchrchrchrchrrrchrrrr...
Remember?
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in reply to Janeishly • • •May be because it was of that time, I remember a friend when I was at the University studying computers.
We were very few, ±20 students for the whole University, mainly boys.
At this time young men had to serve in the army for about a year ('don't remember exactly anyway, I hadn't to do it myself 🙂)
He told me he was the unique programmer in his battalion.
He had to set up a computer to manage sounds sensors. The computer could fit several times in an IBM PC-AT / Apple // when they appeared later. This one was terribly expensive and his colonel was terrified by the bills, he told me.
After 3-4 weeks of intense work, one day he rushed out of the barrack, running in full excitement & grab his colonel, showing his largest satisfaction smile, chanting "I won! I won! 1+1 = 2!"
The colonel stood rather cold, wide eyes, stiff upper lip. "You are telling me that you make me spend this incredible amount of money just to make a machine counting to two?" 🤣
It took some time to explain him that if a machine can do 1+1, it can do q
... show moreMay be because it was of that time, I remember a friend when I was at the University studying computers.
We were very few, ±20 students for the whole University, mainly boys.
At this time young men had to serve in the army for about a year ('don't remember exactly anyway, I hadn't to do it myself 🙂)
He told me he was the unique programmer in his battalion.
He had to set up a computer to manage sounds sensors. The computer could fit several times in an IBM PC-AT / Apple // when they appeared later. This one was terribly expensive and his colonel was terrified by the bills, he told me.
After 3-4 weeks of intense work, one day he rushed out of the barrack, running in full excitement & grab his colonel, showing his largest satisfaction smile, chanting "I won! I won! 1+1 = 2!"
The colonel stood rather cold, wide eyes, stiff upper lip. "You are telling me that you make me spend this incredible amount of money just to make a machine counting to two?" 🤣
It took some time to explain him that if a machine can do 1+1, it can do quite everything, and this made my friend laughing a lot.🤣
Me, I laughed even harder when he told me his 4 computerized decibels sensors stated that the minimum safe distance for ears and a firing rifle was... 3 meters!
I still laugh today.
😜
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in reply to Janeishly • • •I had a 300 baud cartridge modem for my C-64 that I dialed up the local university to get on Usenet. Upgraded to a 2400 and I was stylin'.
At least until nearby lightning strikes killed 2 of them within a few months. Those particular 2400s were seriously fragile.
I was working part time at a small company that made (among other stuff) telephone equipment. I hooked up a couple of inductors and a spark gap we used for protecting a DID (Direct Inward Dialing) system we made, and things went swimmingly after that.
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Indeed.
I’m concerned with the Zeroth Law of Robotics.
mirabilos
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in reply to mirabilos • • •mirabilos
in reply to Janeishly • • •really not if they at least put in some effort for what’s in their scope. I’ve held numerous workshops for the trainees and worked with a charity to get the programme rolling (basically seed youths as tutors to teach other youths, which is now self-perpetuating and great).
What I do look down on is systemd fanbois, blockchain/kleptocurrency types, "AI" advocates, etc. or people who really ought to know better.
mirabilos
in reply to mirabilos • • •(my CV is 17 A4 pages though, plus ToC)
(I use 12pt not 10pt/11pt as base font size though.)
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in reply to Serge from Babka • • •@serge I initially had a harsher response to this, then I went through your feed, and I'll instead simply say this:
I get where you're coming from, but your post was extremely off-topic, and I think is more likely to cost than gain you allies. You can agree or not agree with how Mastodon has a disproportionate number of grizzled tech veterans, but I don't think that's the right context to bring Zionism into the chat. And if you were actually around in 2017? Honestly, I'd *take* 2017 Twitter or Facebook over 2025 *anything*. So I'm not even entirely sure what your point was
Serge from Babka
in reply to Benjamin Pollack • • •@bmp
I'm pointing out that there's a high degree of antisemitism on the Fediverse.
I didn't bring up Zionism. I talked about antisemitism, and I can assure you that there's plenty of antisemitism thrown at Jews who have either never expressed an opinion on Zionism, or who have expressed anti-Zionist views.
I was on Twitter in ~2008/2009, so yeah I was on twitter in 2017.
My point was that antisemitism and harassment of Jews was widespread then,. and that's about the level that the Fediverse is now.
Mark ☸
in reply to Serge from Babka • • •@serge @bmp
Just to confirm. Because it always irks me: saying that the Israeli government is doing bad things is not anti semite or anti zionism correct?
PC
in reply to Mark ☸ • • •@Duckbill4994 @bmp @serge@babka.social
I think so. I also think the first amendment doesn’t apply to this anymore, so watch yourself. It’s not nice out there.
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in reply to Janeishly • • •And we were grateful. Now get off my lawn.
tor_haxson
in reply to Janeishly • • •Pieces of the good internet often die when the content creator dies.
After seeing some really useful content disappear, I have taken to backing up locally content from people who have passed away, knowing that sooner or later, their domain registry will expire.
If your local fern fanatic, bird freak, fossil guy, trout guy/girl, erythronium expert, passes away, archive their website, now..
Jim Knowles
in reply to Janeishly • • •LOL! i sure do remember. but this brought to mind one day in 1986 getting ready to fly in Eliot Lake reading the WX feeds of the teletype and this TTY was going like never seen before.
it was spitting out radiation monitor alerts as this airport was near a uranium mine. i asked the FSS specialist if there was an exercise on and he said no but he wanted to look at the feeds. His face suddenly went ashen.
i asked if something was wrong. … 1/…
Jim Knowles
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He paused and composed himself and handed me the pink form to put my flight note on . I was ok to fly here. He said "here is fine. but its the soviets. something happened there and it must be terrible."
That clattering teleletype and the curled up manilla paper pile took on a new meaning that day. I could only imagine the unknown horrors facing those who were sending the alerts.
Did the senders live long enough to know we read their messages ?
sad for Chernobyl
Adventurer She/Her
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in reply to Adventurer She/Her • • •TheJen is fucking pissed
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in reply to Janeishly • • •Ha! My people!
@trabern
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in reply to Janeishly • • •That’s beautiful…
Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
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in reply to Janeishly • • •Typing? Luxury!
Loading it word by 12 bit word into a row of switches !@#
@jackyan @FreydNot
Gary Wong
in reply to zl2tod • • •@zl2tod @jackyan @FreydNot 12 bit words? Luxury!
Loading it byte by 8 bit byte into a row of switches! 😉
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in reply to Janeishly • • •David Nash
in reply to Janeishly • • •It’s really fun to read all the responses, many of which are what the Monty Python “Four Yorkshiremen” sketch would be if it had four geeks instead, who first got online in the 00s, the 90s, the 80s, and the 70s (or so).
(I’m team 80s, BTW. My first email address was a BITNET address.)
Janeishly
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in reply to Janeishly • • •I love how the kids are "Mastodon is for old people" like I want to be on a platform with a bunch of kids trying to be funny in videos.
Not for money.
Kancept
in reply to Janeishly • • •everyone talking about acoustic couplers, which I've used, but back when I started at home, we saved things on tape! I still remember getting a clock chip so we didn't have to set the date and time later as well. Kids these days have it so good.
Now, outside of the home, I remember punch cards, flipping switches to program things and huge reel to reels and later the 8" floppy.
걸밴드 괴짜 GIRLBANDGEEK
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in reply to Janeishly • • •TY and adore this.
Exactly how i feel.
Tobias Ernst
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in reply to Janeishly • • •56k modems? You whipper snappers. I remember when we replaced our 300 baud acoustic coupler with a 2400 speed daemon! All that speed and way less line noise.
I guess I'm _really_ old.
Jenny Dybedahl
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in reply to Janeishly • • •We dreamed of 56K modems! More like 2400 baud. Kids these days....
😉
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in reply to Janeishly • • •johnrohde
Unknown parent • • •I work in video and can now easily upload several hundred gigabytes of media over night. Blows the mind.
Orrock
in reply to Janeishly • • •Maki
in reply to Janeishly • • •That's great, let's share some memes together. 😀
I love the melting pot of knowledge and experience on the Fediverse.
JayMoore
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in reply to Janeishly • • •@supernov
My bio doesn't say that and talks about flowers instead but it's definitely me. I watched MUDs like mushrooms near Tannhauser gate and everything
Martijn Faassen
in reply to Martijn Faassen • • •@supernov
I read your post about MUD after.
One week onto the Internet without knowing what it was, I was on a mud for the second time and I met a woman from Singapore. She even visited me irl once.
Almost a decade later I met another woman from Singapore in a mud I ran. She had met my friend irl for lunch. So we had a mutual friend who could attest we weren't catfish.
Flash forward about 25 years my wife is that second SG woman, sitting on the couch across from me.
Janeishly
in reply to Martijn Faassen • • •Patrick Loftus 🖖
in reply to Janeishly • • •George Saich
in reply to Janeishly • • •Anne Delong
in reply to George Saich • • •@geos
My first connection was using a terminal emulator on my PET computer and a 300 baud modem to dial into my university's mainframe. No "world wide web", just remote menu-driven access to files on several connected computers. I later ran a BBS system on a PET with a 1200 baud modem (blistering speed!)
#retrocomputing
George Saich
in reply to Anne Delong • • •1200 baud was so cool. I bought one for work, and is cost over $900. I was nervous to have it in my car when I picked it up. 🤣
Janeishly
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in reply to Janeishly • • •Those of us younger than e.g. BBS owners are benefiting from hearing this knowledge passed on, and hopefully we are passing stuff on too to the generation after us.
It's been really interesting hearing how so much on the Fedi now is similar to what happened in the early 80s with the first home computer dialups etc.
This is stuff that isn't really taught anywhere, it seems. It's weird technofolk knowledge.
Janeishly
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in reply to Janeishly • • •The beard is longer¹ – and has more grey – by now, but I am too lazy to get a new one and update…
I wish you a calm and steady wind on your journey to new shores on the fediverse. May you meet and get to know lots of great people and may there always be enough bandwidth connected to your travel devices!
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¹the hair too
vxo
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in reply to tbjorkman • • •1 tripod in 3 trenchcoats
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