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I think I know what I hate about modern websites, web apps, etc. They use these ridiculous menus, from hamburger menus that collapse, to menu bars. Whatever happened to normal links, radio buttons, checkboxes, and comboboxes? Why does everything have to be a menu, and half hidden, with a million steps to get to it? It's beyond annoying! As for the regular programs, many of those don't have normal menus (accessible with the alt key or alt+f) either, and either have ribbons, which I detest, or strange looping menus with no "okay" and "cancel" buttons. I like to know that I completed a task, not to just leave something. Plus, "cancel" means that I could undo any changes immediately. Fortunately, 99% of the programs I use are normal, since I mostly to use the modern rot. But I can't help it with websites or these new web apps, which is why I am always looking for good alternatives to things. The phrase "keep it simple, stupid", while crude, is most certainly true. Don't even get me started on appliances that use touchscreens instead of dials, switches, and buttons. I'm proud to say I don't own any of those!

#accessibility #apps #blind #computers #menus #simplicity #technology

#technology #accessibility #blind #apps #computers #menus #simplicity

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Jeff C
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Georgiana Brummell
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I have no idea why on Earth this had a sensitive content label, but anyway. That explained a little. I am not a programmer, just a blind user of NVDA who is sick of this rubbish. But yes, even then, things weren't standard. There are many programs, even from the past, that were far from accessible. But many were, and most did use the standard menus. Many still do. As for websites and certain programs that have adopted this other approach, Firefox was the first one I saw doing it, after version 28. The last version of Thunderbird with normal menus was 60. On both, menus can still be accessed with the alt key and navigated with arrows and tabs, but they are read like webpages, and the options look like links in some cases, all with no buttons to confirm or cancel things. Unfortunately, I don't know of a browser that doesn't do this, including Serpent UXP and Supermium.
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