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in reply to Georgiana Brummell

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in reply to Jeff C

I have no idea why on Earth this had a sensitive content label, but anyway. That explained a little. I am not a programmer, just a blind user of NVDA who is sick of this rubbish. But yes, even then, things weren't standard. There are many programs, even from the past, that were far from accessible. But many were, and most did use the standard menus. Many still do. As for websites and certain programs that have adopted this other approach, Firefox was the first one I saw doing it, after version 28. The last version of Thunderbird with normal menus was 60. On both, menus can still be accessed with the alt key and navigated with arrows and tabs, but they are read like webpages, and the options look like links in some cases, all with no buttons to confirm or cancel things. Unfortunately, I don't know of a browser that doesn't do this, including Serpent UXP and Supermium.