Since I mentioned the subject yesterday and always say that education has declined in Europe and the United States (probably in Canada, too), , I really ought to explain myself. To my mind, this represents the perfect education. This is meant as a guide from elementary (primary) through high (secondary) school, so some courses will depend on the age of the students. M means mandatory while o means optional. As for university, my belief is that, unlike a vocational school, it should be primarily a place of learning, not merely of obtaining employment. Therefore, the continuation of some of these courses should be encouraged. Also, I believe in proper dress, addressing teachers respectfully, etc.
reading (at first using phonix), writing, spelling (m)
English grammar, taught as such and prescriptively (m)
English composition, may be taught with or separately from grammr (m)
elocution (m)
rhetoric (o)
English and European literature and poetry, nineteenth century and earlier (m)
world and/or later literature and poetry (o)
Latin, using memorisation and recitation (m)
French (m)
Attic Greek (o)
typing and general computer use (m)
national and European geography, with some basic world geography (m)
world geography (o)
national and European history, may be taught separately (m)
world history (o)
elementary philosophy, classical (m)
advanced philosophy, modern (o)
elementary art or art history (m)
advanced art (o)
elementary music (m)
advanced music (o)
physical education or some sort of exercise if student has disability (m)
health, including sex education (m)
basic science, a course with real-life, general ideas of biology, chemistry, Earth science, etc. taught via lectures (m)
advanced sciences, more advanced forms of the above, plus other sciences, taught with labs (o)
basic mathematics, addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division of whole numbers and fractions), percentages (m)
advanced mathematics, algebra, calculus, geometry, trigonometry, etc. (o)
home economics (m)
religion, ideally taught in a scholarly manner (o)
vocational trade or general shop (o)
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Georgiana Brummell
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Unknown parent • •@Alien_Sunset That is, if nothing else, a sensible argument. I won't deny that. But starting early does mean they will have more time with the language. With French, for example, the style of learning is different and quicker, as it's more friendly and familiar. But with Latin, if it is to be taught properly, it takes a long time and is much more intense. The purpose here isn't just to teach Latin, though. It's to help discipline the mind, to teach the skills of memorisation, recitation, translation (construing), and problem solving. It makes the mind itself strong. I wrote a syllabus here.
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I myself need to return to it. It's difficult to do this with a screen reader and errors in the text.
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in reply to Georgiana Brummell • • •Some don’t have the time or resources to spend the dedicated hours of the day to study in such an inefficient manner.
Some can’t afford tutors with specialities in that particular subject.
That particular subject no longer really applies in todays society, despite how much it is lauded, therefore time is better spent concentrating on other things first
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Unknown parent • • •A lot of school instruction time is actually just repeating itself over & over, not even changing the way a thing is said or explained, with the hopes that it will just…. Eventually sink in.
Smaller classes would help, the ability to change methodology ‘mid session’ would help. The ability to allow children more agency to direct discussions would help. But all of those things need more teachers/training. And ‘progress’ is less easily quantified/standardised
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in reply to Georgiana Brummell • • •And yes, burn out is definitely an issue as well.
Very few children really thrive in the way schools are structured now, those that do are rare or given outside help & instruction that a lot of children just can’t access (that whole classism thing again)
Like, I was a fairly intelligent child, but also had undiagnosed/untreated adhd/mild autism, i was able to actually progress as well as i did because of my intelligence & a fortunate overlap in special interests.
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Unknown parent • • •That respectability thing again, that thing people need to be able to access education and progress, but can’t get unless they already have that education, or were born into it.
Oh, and the gap between being able to afford those things and not is growing every day.
But sure, it’s the parents fault for having kids.
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in reply to Georgiana Brummell • • •I don’t know when you went to school, but every class needs to take attendance. Nearly every class has the passing in our handing back of homework. (Sometimes they go over the homework’s, but sometimes not, and not usually in a way that is actually helpful)
Testing has become a farce in and of itself and takes up a massive amount of time.
The education system is terrible, and a lot of the reason is bureaucracy and misaligned goals and standards
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in reply to Georgiana Brummell • • •I mean i didn’t say i learned a lot from my professors 😉
(Although i did, as they had more freedom to teach and track student interests into account)
But just not being restricted to what i was “supposed” to learn or one particular methodology helped more than anything.
Being allowed to follow an interesting topic brought up in class and study it and write about it with the approval of the teacher even if it wasn’t strictly on the syllabus was amazing.
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in reply to Georgiana Brummell • • •And yet, and yet….
Never said it made sense.
And it 100% is stupid, counterintuitive, and cruel, and part of me suspects that the cruelty is the point.
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Unknown parent • • •And the handful of teens i know in schools now confirm it.
It would likely take a very big shake up to fix the system as it is now. And a lot of kids would likely fall through the cracks in the mean time.
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in reply to Georgiana Brummell • • •It was terrible.
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in reply to Georgiana Brummell • • •I've already gotten so much help with stuff from people here, it's been awesome. 😁
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Unknown parent • •@Alien_Sunset Wow! If he's in America, that is a downright disgrace! That said, an old Perkins braillewriter can be found on Ebay for a few hundred, and the old ones are far better than the new, anyway. There is also something called the Read and Write Slate that's under $40. But he should try to contact the Commission for the Blind in his state. They can definitely help him, especially since he's still a student. Sadly, if you're not working or a student, you don't seem to matter, evenn if you just lost your site. I've been blind since Iwas at least two months old, so I never had to go through that, but it angers me that anyone does. At any rate, there are also various blind organisations, such as the ACB, NFB, nd AFB that might be able to help. But in this day and age, as good as it is ti know braille, I would strongly suggest focusing on learning to use a screen reader. I haven't really used braille consistently since 2006. I do everything on my computer. The below websit
... show more@Alien_Sunset Wow! If he's in America, that is a downright disgrace! That said, an old Perkins braillewriter can be found on Ebay for a few hundred, and the old ones are far better than the new, anyway. There is also something called the Read and Write Slate that's under $40. But he should try to contact the Commission for the Blind in his state. They can definitely help him, especially since he's still a student. Sadly, if you're not working or a student, you don't seem to matter, evenn if you just lost your site. I've been blind since Iwas at least two months old, so I never had to go through that, but it angers me that anyone does. At any rate, there are also various blind organisations, such as the ACB, NFB, nd AFB that might be able to help. But in this day and age, as good as it is ti know braille, I would strongly suggest focusing on learning to use a screen reader. I haven't really used braille consistently since 2006. I do everything on my computer. The below websites might help.
This is a free Windows screen reader. It can be installed on any computer running Windows.
nvaccess.org
This is a site for Android users.
accessibleandroid.com
This is one for IOS and Mac.
applevis.com
If there is anything else I can do to help this young man, let me know.
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in reply to Georgiana Brummell • • •I’ll send these links along! Thanks!
His family have been working tirelessly for him but just keep hitting so many roadblocks.
I know they know about a lot of stuff already, but the system is saying that since he isn’t totally blind (yet) he doesn’t qualify & etc.
Some of us who know him are thinking of doing a small fundraiser, so this info is super helpful!
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in reply to Georgiana Brummell • • •I appreciate it, it means a lot! 😁
like I said, his family knows/is doing a lot already, but I can ask if the need any more info.
it's just so frustrating to watch, you know?
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What a wonderful merit vs. ideology dialog.
Well, as far as I remember my history lessons, the world always belonged to the people who adopt merit. Ideology is the goddess of the mediocracy.