Aug. 18 dives
Un nouveau petit montage, sur nos plongées du 18 Aout aux Pierres à Joseph et Calanque des poars.
La chaine vidéo : video.infosec.exchange/c/scuba…
Plongées du 18 Août : video.infosec.exchange/w/qrifE…
[Marseille, Riou 2026] les pierres à Joseph et la calanque des poars
🌊 Deux nouvelles plongées bien sympathiques réalisées le 18 août, en plein cœur de l'archipel de Riou, tout près de Marseille, juste à côté de l'île Plane. Cet archipel ultra protégé se situe en plein milieu de la réserve du Parc national des Calanques, un vrai joyau sous-marin 🐠. Au programme : les Pierres à Joseph, puis la calanque des Poars (de l'autre côté de l'île), qui servait autrefois de lieu de quarantaine pour les porcs importés à Marseille (« poar » signifiant « porc » en vieux provençal). Un magnifique tombant nous attendait côté calanques ⚓. Un grand merci à l'équipe du CIP Pointe Rouge pour les moyens techniques mis à notre disposition.Plus d'infos : cip-marseille.fr/
🌊 Two great dives on August 18, right in the heart of the Riou archipelago, near Marseille, just beside Île Plane. This highly protected archipelago sits within the core zone of the Calanques National Park reserve, a true underwater gem 🐠. On the program: the Pierres à Joseph site, then the Calanque des Poars(just across the island), which once served as a quarantine site for pigs imported into Marseille ("poar" meaning "pig" in old Provençal). A magnificent drop-off awaited us on the calanque side ⚓. A big thank you to the CIP Pointe Rouge team for the technical support.
More info: cip-marseille.fr/
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in reply to Mister Neon • • •More of you could have gone out to vote against him. More of you could go to more than a one day protest once every few months.
Make May 1st your general nationwide strike with more people than the pitiful efforts that have been seen at this point.
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in reply to BrainInABox • • •I would imagine that you can't because it would damage your position.
Which is why i laugh.
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in reply to FederatedFreedom1981 • • •FederatedFreedom1981
in reply to Mister Neon • • •Mister Neon
in reply to FederatedFreedom1981 • • •I can lose my life. I can lose my health. I can lose my freedom. All those things could happen with a high chance of failure without anything changing. In fact I could make the situation worse. The failed assassination attempt on Trump boosted his poll numbers and contributed to his victory and his paranoia.
It's very easy for people like you to tell me to sacrifice, but people like you will never help me.
Make a sacrifice for me first. Do anything to make my life tolerable. Put your money where your mouth is. Then we will discuss what I'm freed up to do to help the world.
FederatedFreedom1981
in reply to Mister Neon • • •Mister Neon
in reply to FederatedFreedom1981 • • •Or sponsor me to move wherever you are. Have a job ready for me when I get there. I got PMP, PMI-ACP, and PSM I certifications along with AWS certifications. I need either a source of income that can support me without firing me for protesting or a way out after I do whatever you want done.
FederatedFreedom1981
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in reply to Mister Neon • • •westerners can generally find jobs outside the west with much more ease. especially when you are certified for a reasonably well paid field. you could also sponsor your own move much easier than the average person could sponsor you.
also why would anyone else make a sacrifice for a problem your country created for everyone else?
BrainInABox
in reply to Mister Neon • • •Not beating the stereotype
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in reply to Mister Neon • • •Russians be like: wow that never happened and here we go again...
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in reply to Mister Neon • • •BrainInABox
in reply to Mister Neon • • •But you'd be fine with it if he did it while you were looking, of course
Mister Neon
in reply to BrainInABox • • •My point is that we're so inundated with terrible news and horrific policy we can't start to mount an opposition to a specific change before the next horror arises. We had military occupations in our cities which have been forgotten because that was half a dozen scandals ago.
Personally I've been in panic mode for a year because I was a government contractor before Trump let Elon Musk lay me off. Due to the economy Trump is directly responsible for the only job I could find pays 1/4 of what I was making with no benefits.
Now there is a war. I'm going hungry.
BrainInABox
in reply to Mister Neon • • •You didn't do that under previous presidents either.
Damn, truly nobody has been more mistreated by the US Empire than you. I'm sure the people Gaza would be horrified if they only knew.
And apparently it would be ok if it wasn't started behind your back?
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in reply to BrainInABox • • •Nah
Edit: plus, we already had this discussion elsewhere in the thread.
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in reply to Goldmage263 • • •This isn't debate club, nobody cares what's in your book
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in reply to BrainInABox • • •He's not asking for your pity, or mine. He's explaining why he and many other Americans are feeling helpless and are finding it difficult to mount a resistance, eventhough they know they should.
Interstingly sanctions had this same effect on the Iranian middle class. No way to revolt and replace the government when your rent is double your income.
BrainInABox
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in reply to mirshafie • • •A major part of it is because those who do mount any kind of actual resistance that has any potential for being effective, they get murdered and disappeared. E.g. Black Panthers, or the original leadership of BLM before it was coopted by liberals. Any genuine leftism in the US has been effectively eradicated by outright murder, intense anticommunist propaganda campaigns (targeting every segment of society from elementary schools to popular media control to even workers unions themselves), and direct infiltration and dismantling of leftist organizations of any size. This society is practically built around a pathological individualism that neuters any potential for mass action. Our culture has been cultivated to only accept rightward expressions of political dissatisfaction, with no room for or even basic understanding of leftwing organization.
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in reply to Jankatarch • • •Government and people are tightly linked. Governments tend not to stray too far from what their people believe, at least openly, since they want to keep power, and their heads. The fact that the US is now openly doing what its been doing for decades behind closed doors and pretending not to do, means that they at the very least hold the belief that a large portion of the population is willing, open to, and/or indifferent to their actions, finally. Makes sense though, since most US americans are disgusting, racist, fascist, self-centred isolationist rubbish, and have been for a long time. The self aware ones, or those who become self-aware after invading some far off country and realising that they are in fact, the baddies (only after torching a village or tormenting the local populace) are few and far between.
I saw a video recently of a US soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan, Id say sometime in the 2000s (2000-2010), complaining that they're not allowed to retaliate (shoot is actually the word he used) children who it seens regularly threw rocks at their vehicle
... Show more...Government and people are tightly linked. Governments tend not to stray too far from what their people believe, at least openly, since they want to keep power, and their heads. The fact that the US is now openly doing what its been doing for decades behind closed doors and pretending not to do, means that they at the very least hold the belief that a large portion of the population is willing, open to, and/or indifferent to their actions, finally. Makes sense though, since most US americans are disgusting, racist, fascist, self-centred isolationist rubbish, and have been for a long time. The self aware ones, or those who become self-aware after invading some far off country and realising that they are in fact, the baddies (only after torching a village or tormenting the local populace) are few and far between.
I saw a video recently of a US soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan, Id say sometime in the 2000s (2000-2010), complaining that they're not allowed to retaliate (shoot is actually the word he used) children who it seens regularly threw rocks at their vehicles along that particular stretch of road, and he didnt seem to realise that he was the invader, nor that those are fucking kids and what he was saying was abnormal and sick...
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in reply to promitheas • • •To summarize:
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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •I want to note that the grandparents of the modern day Americans saved us from oppression and fascism and I/we are still greatly thankful for that.
A lot of this generation of Americans however are a disgrace. A disgrace to their parents and grandparents and to the everything that's good and decent in the world.
I like to pretend that the people that voted for trump are the descendents of either cowards or people lucky enough not to have fought in WW2.
I can't imagine decency and morality disappearing from a family's upbringing in two generations.
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in reply to thericofactor • • •If you're talking about WW2 then you're wrong
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in reply to Bloomcole • • •wp:Sterling Hayden (March 26, 1916 – May 23, 1986)
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in reply to DMCMNFIBFFF • • •DMCMNFIBFFF
in reply to Bloomcole • • •Like many of his contemporaries, he was an American who had/has modern day grandchildren, and probably did more to fight fascism than many Lemmy leftists.
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •The word was "grandparents".
The generation wasn't specified.
I suppose such grandparents might have been/be members of the "Greatest Generation", such as Hayden; or "Silent Generation" (which included/includes Chomsky, MLK, Gloria Steinem, Lee Harvey Oswald, Frank Zappa, Larry Ellison, Ted Kaczynski, or Biden); Baby Boomers; or possibly even Gen-Xers (a few might have grandchildren who post on Lemmy).
Though to be fair, the reference to WWII might whittle it down to the first 2, and maybe add the wp:Lost Generation (1833 to 1900).
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •Hitler and Stalin were allies from 1939 to 1941. Stalin's incompetence in the 1930s lead to the deaths of millions of Soviets, and imperiled millions more;
Churchill, for all his faults—and he had a several very bad faults—at least took Hitler seriously;
but yes, the Soviets fought harder than any Ally.
Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to DMCMNFIBFFF • • •The communists were never allies with the Nazis. A non-aggression pact is not an alliance. The communists spent the decade prior trying to form an anti-Nazi coalition force, such as the Anglo-French-Soviet Alliance which was pitched by the communists and rejected by the British and French. The communists hated the Nazis from the beginning, as the Nazi party rose to prominence by killing communists and labor organizers, cemented bourgeois rule, and was violently racist and imperialist, while the communists opposed all of that.
When the many talks of alliances with the west all fell short, the Soviets reluctantly agreed to sign a non-agression pact, in order to delay the coming war that everyone knew was happening soon. Throughout the last decade, Britain, France, and other western countries had formed pacts with Nazi Germany, such as the
... Show more...The communists were never allies with the Nazis. A non-aggression pact is not an alliance. The communists spent the decade prior trying to form an anti-Nazi coalition force, such as the Anglo-French-Soviet Alliance which was pitched by the communists and rejected by the British and French. The communists hated the Nazis from the beginning, as the Nazi party rose to prominence by killing communists and labor organizers, cemented bourgeois rule, and was violently racist and imperialist, while the communists opposed all of that.
When the many talks of alliances with the west all fell short, the Soviets reluctantly agreed to sign a non-agression pact, in order to delay the coming war that everyone knew was happening soon. Throughout the last decade, Britain, France, and other western countries had formed pacts with Nazi Germany, such as the Four-Power Pact, the German-French-Non-Agression Pact, and more. Molotov-Ribbentrop was unique among the non-agression pacts with Nazi Germany in that it was right on the eve of war, and was the first between the USSR and Nazi Germany. It was a last resort, when the west was content from the beginning with working alongside Hitler.
Harry Truman, in 1941 in front of the Senate, stated:
Not only that, but it was the Soviet Union that was responsible for 4/5ths of total Nazi deaths, and winning the war against the Nazis. The Soviet Union did not agree to invade Poland with the Nazis, it was about spheres of influence and red lines the Nazis should not cross in Poland. When the USSR went into Poland, it stayed mostly to areas Poland had invaded and annexed a few decades prior. Should the Soviets have let Poland get entirely taken over by the Nazis, standing idle? The West made it clear that they were never going to help anyone against the Nazis until it was their turn to be targeted.
Churchill did not take the Nazis as a serious threat, and was horrified when FDR and Stalin made a joke about executing Nazis. Churchill starved millions to death in India in preventable ways, and had this to say about it:
Meanwhile, the soviet famine in the 1930s was the last major famine outside of wartime in the USSR, because collectivized farming achieved food security in a region where famine was common. As a consequence, life expectancy doubled:
The Nazis and soviets were never allies. A non-aggression pact is not an alliance, and the non-aggression pact between the soviets and the Nazis was unique among the other non-aggression pacts in that it was on the eve of war. The soviets knew war was coming, and so bought more time to prepare.
Not sure what including an example of the social fascism of the SPD at the end there is supposed to do for your point.
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •They kind of acted like allies, particularly with regards to Poland, which they split between themselves, and before you cite that it was a preemptive strike—I suppose a sort of "the Nazis-will-invade-Poland-before-us-so-we-might-as-well-have-a-chunk-of-it-right-now-to-fight-there-rather-in-our-beloved-Soviet-Motherland"—there are things like the wp:Katyn massacre. Again, Stalin's purges hurt the Soviet's ability to counter the Nazis, and I'll add maybe scared more Germans into voting for Nazis.
... Show more...It might be due to bad PR: while Hitler was having his Nuremberg rally and the Berlin Olympics, Stalin was havin
They kind of acted like allies, particularly with regards to Poland, which they split between themselves, and before you cite that it was a preemptive strike—I suppose a sort of "the Nazis-will-invade-Poland-before-us-so-we-might-as-well-have-a-chunk-of-it-right-now-to-fight-there-rather-in-our-beloved-Soviet-Motherland"—there are things like the wp:Katyn massacre. Again, Stalin's purges hurt the Soviet's ability to counter the Nazis, and I'll add maybe scared more Germans into voting for Nazis.
It might be due to bad PR: while Hitler was having his Nuremberg rally and the Berlin Olympics, Stalin was having his purges.
Agreed, but both Communists and Nazis were also anti-liberal—a lot of Germans were liberal—but I suppose the KPD weren't really into coalition-building with liberals and/or democrats in those days.
Yes, but I don't think the others involved carving up other countries, with the exception of Czechoslovakia, and the idiot British PM who was responsible for that resigned soon after it backfired, while after Molotov-Ribbentrop, Stalin continued to rule until his death in 1953.
and some Americans believed in continued neutrality for similar reasons.
and kudos to the people of the USSR.
I presume it was implied.
Presumably they hit the areas defended not by the Nazis but by the Poles—i.e. the eastern part.
wp:Poland–Russia relations#Soviet Union
So I guess Moscow and Warsaw weren't getting along.
wp:Soviet invasion of Poland#Soviet invasion of Poland
So a country that was partially-at-least ruled by the Kremlin, didn't want soldiers ruled by the Kremlin in their country again.
I just checked this out:
wp:Konstantin Rokossovsky
(my bold)
What was this Polish commie doing in a commie prison?
more evidence of Stalin's idiocy.
I'll have to check that out. Maybe I've overestimated him; and yes, he at least seems to have been genocidal, though such would give fuel (might have given fuel) to non-racist isolationists in the US and neutral European countries, such as those in Switzerland and Ireland.
Besides invading Poland and fighting the Poles, I wonder what did the Soviets do in those 22⅓ months to prepare that they didn't do in the several years previous.
wp:Ernst Thälmann
(my bold)
I hope he died with the consolation that at least maybe many "social fascists" were also executed by the Nazis.
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in reply to DMCMNFIBFFF • • •The soviets did not "split Poland" with the Nazis, the soviets only went in weeks after the Nazis did. Most of the area the Soviets took are areas in modern Lithuania and Ukraine. Poland had annexed them in the Polish-Soviet War and the Polish-Lithuanian War earlier. Katyn gets pinned on the Soviets because Goebbels reported on it and it became a useful story, but the execution method was distinctly Nazi, ie killing men, women, and children from behind into mass graves. The ammunition was German-produced in 1941, and the rope used to bind the hands of the victims was German made. It was entirely characteristc of Nazi execution methods and with Nazi equipment.
... Show more...The soviets did not "split Poland" with the Nazis, the soviets only went in weeks after the Nazis did. Most of the area the Soviets took are areas in modern Lithuania and Ukraine. Poland had annexed them in the Polish-Soviet War and the Polish-Lithuanian War earlier. Katyn gets pinned on the Soviets because Goebbels reported on it and it became a useful story, but the execution method was distinctly Nazi, ie killing men, women, and children from behind into mass graves. The ammunition was German-produced in 1941, and the rope used to bind the hands of the victims was German made. It was entirely characteristc of Nazi execution methods and with Nazi equipment.
The soviets and Poland indeed did not get along, at least not until Poland turned socialist. Poland had been engaging in wars of conquest in the preceding decades, killing Hungarians, Lithuanians, and Ukrainians, annexing their lands. Considering that the soviet union was a multi-national federation of socialist countries, it makes sense that there would be bad blood between them. After Poland turned socialist, it recieved large investments and skyrocketed in industrial output and quality of life metrics.
As for the purges, the need to investigate the party for traitors was legitimate. After the assassination of Kirov, a conspiracy against the soviet state was found, along with infiltration from fascists. Khrushchev did not improve the soviet union, but rather set the seeds for its dissolution. For more on the topic of Stalin, the early soviet period, and Khrushchev, see Stalin: The History and Critique of a Black Legend.
What improved in the soviet union was the benefit of the decades of industrialization and planting the seeds for the future that existed in the 20s and 30s, fighting off the Nazis and saving the world from fascism, and recovery from that war. The early soviets had worked tirelessly to create a new world.
The USSR had steady and consistent economic growth, and provided free, high quality education and healthcare, full employment, cheap or free housing, and fantastic infrastructure and city planning. This rapid development resulted in dramatic democratization of society, reduced disparity, doubling of life expectancy, tripling of functional literacy rates to 99.9%, and much more. Living in the 1930s famine would not have been good, but it was the last major famine outside of wartime because the soviets ended famine in their countries.
Literacy rates, societal guarantees in the 1936 constitution, reports on the healthcare system over time, and more are good sources for these claims.
The USSR brought dramatic democratization to society. First-hand accounts from Statesian journalist Anna Louise Strong in her book This Soviet World describe soviet elections and factory councils in action. Statesian Pat Sloan even wrote Soviet Democracy to describe in detail the system the soviets had built for curious Statesians to read about, and today we have Professor Roland Boer's Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance to reference.
When it comes to social progressivism, the soviet union was among the best out of their peers, so instead we must look at who was actually repressed outside of the norm. In the USSR, it was the capitalist class, the kulaks, the fascists who were repressed. This is out of necessity for any socialist state. When it comes to working class freedoms, however, the soviet union represented a dramatic expansion. Soviet progressivism was documented quite well in Albert Syzmanski's Human Rights in the Soviet Union.
The truth, when judged based on historical evidence and contextualization, is that socialism was the best thing to happen to Russia in the last few centuries, and its absence has been devastating.
Capitalism brought with it skyrocketing poverty rates, drug abuse, prostitution, homelessness, crime rates, and lowered life expectancy. An estimated 7 million people died due to the dissolution of socialism in the USSR. A return to socialism is the only path forward for the post-soviet countries.
Returning to World War II, the soviets continued their preparatory work for war. It involved dramatic, rapid industrialization, which they needed to continue to close the industrial gap with Germany. Their rate of growth was higher than that of Germany, but in absolute terms were still lagging, so any bit of time they could buy was worth it. See The Soviets Expected It.
Returning to the KPD and SPD, the reason the SPD were so hated by the KPD is because the SPD aided the Nazis in killing communists. The SPD's anti-communism aligned them with the Nazis, whom they found a common enemy. The SPD's plan of voting for Hindenburg came true and failed spectacularly as Hitler took power anyways, proving the Communists correct, that the fascists needed to be fought directly. The SPD being killed by the Nazis for being too left wing is a direct result of their assistance with killing the communists first. See how the SPD betrayed the revolution.
As a side note, wikipedia is not a source. It is a compilation of sources at best, and at worst it can be wrong or misleading, lacking key context or mistranslating primary sources.
How the SPD Betrayed the Revolution
A. J. Horn (Simplifying Socialism)DMCMNFIBFFF
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •Thank you for your reply, and I appreciate the effort; but as a (decent) rebuttal to this would involve more reading on my part, it might take a while to reply to it—but I intend to.
Until then, have a nice day. 🙂
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Etterra
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in reply to thericofactor • • •America was isolationist until they were dragged kicking and screaming into the war. Churchill was regularly crossing the Atlantic to beg Roosevelt to try to garner enough support to join the war. The American people did not care. The majority were against joining the war.
All the same today, The majority of Americans either support MAGA or are indifferent. Short of some great personal injury such as a Pearl Harbor type event, Americans will continue to be as they are.
The idea that Americans were anti-fascist heroes is propaganda. They were only angry that they got got by Japan.
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in reply to thericofactor • • •The US only joined the war opportunistically and because Japan was stupid enough to drag them into it.
Ever heard of the guy named Harry Truman (I'm sure he wasn't anyone too important)? That's what he had to say about WW2:
The Soviets did the majority of the fighting against the Nazis and the Chinese againt Japan.
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in reply to cornishon • • •Not to defend Japan, they had it coming, but that part of WW2 was provoked by US as 100% classic interimperialist war for at least West Pacific and maybe even entire East Asia (and in fact Lenin predicted it in 1918, although he predicted it way earlier than it really erupted). At the point US embargoed Japan, it was already fully invested in genocidal brutal war against China and had war materials for half year with zero possibility to disentangle itself.
So they had only two choices: dismantling of their empire which was absolutely unacceptable to them and would probably end up with remnants being swallowed by US anyway or maybe even to face very angry China while having no supplies for armed forces, or take the resources by force which meant conquering Dutch colonies and in this case war with UK and USA was also certain, so their decision to go va banque was basically the rational option, and while it was noted back then by some like admiral Y
... Show more...Not to defend Japan, they had it coming, but that part of WW2 was provoked by US as 100% classic interimperialist war for at least West Pacific and maybe even entire East Asia (and in fact Lenin predicted it in 1918, although he predicted it way earlier than it really erupted). At the point US embargoed Japan, it was already fully invested in genocidal brutal war against China and had war materials for half year with zero possibility to disentangle itself.
So they had only two choices: dismantling of their empire which was absolutely unacceptable to them and would probably end up with remnants being swallowed by US anyway or maybe even to face very angry China while having no supplies for armed forces, or take the resources by force which meant conquering Dutch colonies and in this case war with UK and USA was also certain, so their decision to go va banque was basically the rational option, and while it was noted back then by some like admiral Yamamoto to be suicidal, it proven to be less suicidal than alternative, especially that the Japanese nationalism was preserved by USA and is now surfacing itself in even stupider form.
And fuck them, good riddance, but USA had only imperialist motivation for that war and indeed ended up gobbling basically entire Pacific and their own Mare Nostrum in the process, the only thing stopping them even a little was USSR and China.
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in reply to Formfiller • • •OBJECTION!
in reply to Zerush • • •2013 international Gallup poll: "Which country is the biggest threat to world peace"
TwodogsFighting
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in reply to altasshet • • •Indian troops do the goose-step at Indo-Pakistan border
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in reply to Zerush • • •Why does this map label the US as “North America” in the first version?
That’s a really weird error.
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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •I would just say don't do Spaceballs wrong like that... But no.
The actions of the US government have been so destructive that they are comparable to the empire in the dumbest way possible.
Mulligrubs
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •Why are you using the "Spaceball dollar" for most international trade?
Why are you buying your weapons from the Spaceball?
Why do you make deals conceding power to the Spaceball?
Why does the Spaceball get a UN veto?
WHY
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Cooltag2267
in reply to LiamBox • • •Nomorereddit
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •I hate the whole ppl gotta die part of the Iran conflict, but im loving the straight of hormuz shit and kinda give the orange ape credit for this total win.
Gas needs to be waaay more expensive, so that the economy changes and we become less dependent on oil.
As oil becomes more expensive, companies switch to rail, electrify their fleets, and source more locally. Price signaling is amazing for the usa's economy...even tho its hard at first, its more meaningful
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uenticx
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •OP has a constant stream of American hate, is Chinese, and moderates /c/usa
Interesting.
E: Wow, the propaganda is THICK! ALERT, ALERT LOL America bad, but commies are worst. Who's racist? I'm a Chinese American you twats. Look at his profile and his posts ffs, most Americans aren't this dense? Lets follow what the fucking commies have to say, shall we?
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Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to uenticx • • •Haven't seen anything pointing to OP being Chinese (nor would that be a problem), but it's a good thing to hate the US Empire.
Edit: responding to your edit, there are a lot of us communists here on Lemmy because communists made Lemmy.
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秦始皇帝
in reply to uenticx • • •My condolences
UnderpantsWeevil
in reply to uenticx • • •I immediately crapped myself and fainted when I read this
It is very funny to see a man who is going to be lined up against the wall under the current administration defend it so adamantly.
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